Israel Genocide in Gaza - 2023 to present - Part ll

I am aware of Thomas Massey. But what saddens me is that he is noted because he is stood out as the lone Congressman/Senator from the Republican Party to try to put some brakes on blindly supporting Israel. I know now there are people like M. T. Greene also standing up. Only now! But why that 'saddens' me: Because there have been literally dozens in the Democratic Party, in both the House and the Senate, who have been very much against Israel but the stupid Muslim community and a large part of this forum still equated the Democratic and the Republican parties; they didn't think that Biden, an old bigot, was a personal Zionist and that reflected in his policies. A President Harris would almost certainly be not another Biden on Palestine.
There is a reason Israel has been winning: They know how to play the American political game, despite their low number in the electorates. As to the Muslims: They have the Michigan Imams taking the selfies with the candidate Trump! Stupid!!!!
There is a book you really need to read. I have been recommending it for two years on this forum.

The Controversy of Zion by Douglas Reed. Find the PDF and read it.

I will guarantee 40 pages in, your mind will start clicking.
 
I am aware of Thomas Massey. But what saddens me is that he is noted because he is stood out as the lone Congressman/Senator from the Republican Party to try to put some brakes on blindly supporting Israel. I know now there are people like M. T. Greene also standing up. Only now! But why that 'saddens' me: Because there have been literally dozens in the Democratic Party, in both the House and the Senate, who have been very much against Israel but the stupid Muslim community and a large part of this forum still equated the Democratic and the Republican parties; they didn't think that Biden, an old bigot, was a personal Zionist and that reflected in his policies. A President Harris would almost certainly be not another Biden on Palestine.
There is a reason Israel has been winning: They know how to play the American political game, despite their low number in the electorates. As to the Muslims: They have the Michigan Imams taking the selfies with the candidate Trump! Stupid!!!!
Washington desperately needs a third party candidate to occupy the Oval Office. Once the duocracy is decimated then and only then can the USA truly rise, otherwise it will stagnate and go the way of the Dodo.
 
better luck next time
The four boxes of liberty is a 19th-century American idea that proposes: "There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and cartridge (or ammo). Please use in that order."

I don't think there is a next time.
 
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News|Israel-Palestine conflict

Genocide label crucial in addressing atrocities in Gaza: Legal scholars​

Experts say countries across the world have a responsibility to prevent and stop genocide under international law.

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Smoke rises from an Israeli strike in Gaza City on October 7, 2025 [Ebrahim Hajjaj/Reuters]

By Ali Harb
Published On 8 Oct 20258 Oct 2025

Washington, DC – Two years into the war on Gaza, legal scholars have emphasised the importance of labelling the mass atrocities Israel is committing against Palestinians as a genocide due to the legal and political implications of the determination.

Additionally, experts stressed that it is the most accurate description of the Israeli campaign, and even some of Israel’s staunchest supporters acknowledged that the country has committed war crimes in Gaza.
But experts said Israel’s brutal assault is more than individual violations of the laws of war; it represents a push to destroy the Palestinians and must be described as what it is – a genocide.

Former United Nations official Craig Mokhaiber said genocide involves the violation of core rights that apply without exception; it also invokes an international responsibility to stop it.

“The obligations apply to all states,” Mokhaiber told Al Jazeera. “All states in the world are obliged to use whatever means they have in order to put an end to the genocide and to punish the perpetrators of the genocide and to prevent the genocide in the first instance.”

He noted that the formal name of the 1948 UN Genocide Convention is the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide.

Adopted by 153 countries – including the United States, all Western powers and Israel – the convention is the ultimate international law on genocide.

“The Contracting Parties confirm that genocide, whether committed in time of peace or in time of war, is a crime under international law which they undertake to prevent and to punish,” it reads.

Susan Akram, director of Boston University’s International Human Rights Clinic, said describing the assault on Gaza as a genocide is “critical”.

“Genocide is the most serious of international crimes, and because of that, the Genocide Convention requires all states parties to prevent and punish it, so the recognition that it is genocide automatically triggers obligations on state parties,” Akram told Al Jazeera.

What is a genocide?​

The convention defines genocide as “acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group”.

Genocidal acts include killing and injuring members of the targeted group, prevention of births and imposing “conditions of life calculated to bring about” the physical destruction of the group.

Any one of the acts listed in the convention can amount to carrying out a genocide. It does not need to be all of them.

In the case of Gaza, UN investigators and rights groups have found Israel to be carrying out several of the acts listed in the convention.

“The Israeli authorities intended to kill as many Palestinians as possible through its military operations in Gaza since 7 October 2023 and knew that the means and methods of warfare employed would cause mass deaths of Palestinians, including children,” a UN commission of inquiry said in a report last month.

The UN investigators also pointed to a long list of Israeli officials and military commanders calling for collective punishment and mass violence against Palestinians as proof of genocidal intent.

The findings added to the growing consensus by rights groups and international legal scholars that Israel is committing genocide in Gaza.



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Amnesty International, B’Tselem, Human Rights Watch, UN experts and the International Association of Genocide Scholars (IAGS) have all accused Israel of genocidal acts in Gaza.

So has the Lemkin Institute for Genocide Prevention, which is named after Polish-Jewish lawyer Raphael Lemkin, who is credited with coining the term genocide after the Holocaust.

Israel has turned most of Gaza into rubble, killing more than 67,000 people and injuring nearly 170,000 more.

Repeated forced displacement orders by the Israeli military have rendered nearly all of the territory’s population homeless, and a strict blockade on humanitarian aid has sparked a famine in the Gaza Strip.

The Israeli military has also been targeting medical facilities across Gaza while blocking fuel and medical supplies needed for the operation of hospitals in the enclave.

But Israel rejects accusations of genocide, often dismissing them as anti-Semitic, claiming that it is carrying out a self-defence campaign against Hamas.

The ICJ case​

Israel is facing genocide accusations, brought by South Africa, at the International Court of Justice (ICJ), but the top UN tribunal could take months, if not years, to make a final determination in the case.

Still, the ICJ has issued three sets of provisional measures, including ordering Israel to prevent genocidal acts in Gaza.

In an interim ruling in January 2024, the ICJ found that it is “plausible” that Israel is violating the Genocide Convention.

Two months later, the court ordered Israel to enable the “unhindered provision” of aid to Gaza as deadly hunger was starting to spread in the enclave due to the Israeli blockade. Israel has not followed the order.

In May of that year, the ICJ issued another directive ordering Israel to halt its offensive against the southern Gaza city of Rafah, where most of the territory’s population was sheltering at that time. Israel continued with the operation.



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The UN Independent International Commission of Inquiry on the Occupied Palestinian Territory said in its September report that the first ICJ ruling put “all states on notice”.

“As such, the duty to prevent genocide was triggered due to the actual or constructive knowledge of the immediate plausibility that genocide was being or was about to be committed,” the report said.

Boston University’s Akram agreed.

“It’s not at all a mystery what states are required to do. They have to take all means within their powers to punish – and most importantly stop – an ongoing genocide,” she told Al Jazeera.

“So why this has not triggered a global sanctions regime is really a failure of the international system.”

‘Every individual’s obligation’​

The International Criminal Court (ICC) may prosecute Israeli officials on genocide charges.

The ICC last year issued arrest warrants for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his former Defence Minister Yoav Gallant for alleged war crimes in Gaza, including using starvation as a weapon of war. But the tribunal has not pursued genocide charges in the conflict.

With a US veto looming over any UN Security Council resolution critical of Israel, the enforcement of genocide prevention – outside international courts – largely falls to individual states.

Some international coalitions, including The Hague Group, have been pushing for concrete measures to hold Israel accountable for its abuses in Gaza.

Despite the shift in public opinion and the growing recognition of a Palestinian state, Israel has maintained strong trade and diplomatic ties with most of its Western allies.

Backed by the financial and diplomatic might of the US, Israel has been enjoying what rights advocates describe as impunity for its genocidal campaign in Gaza.



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In the US, a group of Palestinians and Palestinian Americans sued the administration of then-President Joe Biden in the early months of the war for failure to prevent genocide.

The plaintiffs sought an order to halt US assistance to Israel.

Last year, Judge Jeffrey White dismissed the case, arguing that federal courts do not have jurisdiction over foreign policy.

Still, White found that the evidence presented in the case indicated “the ongoing military siege in Gaza is intended to eradicate a whole people and therefore plausibly falls within the international prohibition against genocide”.

“It is every individual’s obligation to confront the current siege in Gaza, but it [is] also this Court’s obligation to remain within the metes and bounds of its jurisdictional scope,” he wrote.

A political solution​

Ernesto Verdeja, an associate professor of political science at the University of Notre Dame, said that while legal avenues to stop the genocide in Gaza are important, the solution is ultimately a political one.

“It’s a solution that requires real, sustained and broad-based political pressure, and that includes not only political leaders and states but also civil society movements to get the Israeli state to stop carrying out this absolutely appalling set of attacks on Gazan civilians,” Verdeja told Al Jazeera.

He added that the war on Gaza should be called a genocide for the sake of accuracy, underscoring that denial of the genocide in Gaza often pivots to justifying the mass atrocities Israel is committing in the enclave.

“The bad-faith version of the argument essentially says, ‘Well, it’s not really genocide; therefore, it’s justified,'” Verdeja told Al Jazeera.

He warned against focusing on legal technicalities, court rulings and definitions, rather than pushing to stop the horrors unfolding in Gaza.

“Genocide and more generally mass atrocity prevention really shouldn’t be waiting until we give a legal, formal determination of genocide. We should be preventing this well in advance.”


 
My friend, I think this(peace) is very difficult to happen . It's just another "CEASE FAKE." In January, one of these was also declared and lasted about two months. This will only last a while. Zionism will attack Iran, Lebanon, Syria, and especially Iraq. Then it will return to attacking Palestine/Gaza.
Maybe so but Gaza was left out to dry. Two years and not even a single bullet was delivered for replenishment. They couldn’t even muster food or medical aid without Israeli approval. Right now, they need to focus on rebuilding with estimates ranging from 20-50 years. They need to sit on the sidelines because it’s evidently clear no one is going to come to their aid from this genocide.
 
PS. To be honest : I wish the northern fronts against Israel re-open!! Because Israelis are only buying time to recuperate!! Long term: They need to kick out the Netanyahus from their midst once and for all to live in peace in the region, and only a strategic defeat could ensure that.
Militias should not be counted to beat Israel. They are only defensive groups and should stay that. You saw that Israel will genocide and flatten cities like they did to Gaza. You need strong state militaries not militias who can’t protect their people from being carpet bombed.

It’s time for Arab and Muslim countries to build their own weapons programs and not rely on others.

But will they?
 
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The muslim world as a whole should start work on a legal framework where these kind of people are identified and taken to task at the ICC / ICJ. Once the guilty verdict is delivered a hefty bounty should be offered for the arrest of these despicable excuse for humans. At the current time along with aid and reconstruction of Gaza work should also start on prosecuting the zionist entity to their last terrorist soldier. All of them should be held accountable, no one spared, they should be hunted down to the last corner of the earth and made to feel the full brunt of international law. No stone should be left unturned in this endeavor.
 
The genocide isn't over.

1 of 2 things will happen.

1) Israel sabotages this, and continues on with the genocide.

Or

2) the hostages are released,, and Netanyahu continues on with the genocide, without any fear of getting backlash from the Israeli population for dead Israelis.
 
Trump is a tool for the Zions , if they need him they will give him the Presidency, if they don't they will find someone else. They used the Nationalist right wing trope to rope in the white masses who are grasping for their vanishing privilege. Zions want Palestine and Trump wants protection from the line of Paedophage charges against him that have been paused unless he deviates from their control. That's why Netanyahu walks so smug into Congress.

Correct! Orange is NOT the protagonist in this story. And zion rides a sinking ship. They cannot take small victory and call it quits! The grip on power, the velocity of money and threats of dire consequences are diminishing and making future goals untenable... so they will if they have to... sink Trump to do what they have to do... of they stagnate here the project gets old very quickly and rolled back in no time... the demographic they run with will shift focus and move on... so they must keep focus.

So to whoever says that why don't you take it... doesn't understand the goals or what's in the store down the line.
 

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