Israel Genocide in Gaza - 2023 to present - Part ll

[The SC]

this is just the bombs

we have to also add the air defence missiles, the planes, the bulldozers, and every other equipment

the amount of equipment transferred overall is really mind blowing. the industrial capacity and military expenditure of the USA is totally peerless

This is the bombs and the missiles..even the new F-35s are included in this study..21$ billion in bombs and 10$ billion for the rest..

 

[The SC]

I don't disagree

with all due respect, MbS has been humiliated by Trump in similar ways before, like the big placards about how much Saudi Arabia is going to spend for US ships and jets

of course no Muslims should be paying for the results of the US and Western sponsored and enabled Israeli genocide in Gaza. but realistically no one else will pay. and the Arab/Muslim world should come together in solidarity with their Palestinian brothers who have suffered more than anyone could ever imagine. I have donated to many aid groups in Gaza (and in Lebanon during that war), this is my minimal obligation as a human.

All the Arabs and Muslims will participate and they want the West and others to do so too..

 

[Persian Gulf]

This is the bombs and the missiles..even the new F-35s are included in this study..21$ billion in bombs and 10$ billion for the rest..

as of May 2025 - over 90,000 tons (a really incredible number):

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Israel has received 940 aircraft and vessels loaded with US weapons and military equipment since the start of the Gaza war in October 2023, the Defense Ministry said on Tuesday, Anadolu reports.

“The 800th aircraft in the comprehensive military equipment and weapons airlift operation that commenced immediately following the (Gaza) war has landed in Israel this morning,” the ministry said in a statement.

During the airlift, the ministry said, over 90,000 tons of military equipment have been delivered to Israel via 800 flights and approximately 140 maritime shipments.

The procured and transported equipment includes munitions, armored vehicles, individual protective equipment, and medical supplies, according to the ministry.

 

[_Arabia_]

I don't disagree

with all due respect, MbS has been humiliated by Trump in similar ways before, like the big placards about how much Saudi Arabia is going to spend for US ships and jets

of course no Muslims should be paying for the results of the US and Western sponsored and enabled Israeli genocide in Gaza. but realistically no one else will pay. and the Arab/Muslim world should come together in solidarity with their Palestinian brothers who have suffered more than anyone could ever imagine. I have donated to many aid groups in Gaza (and in Lebanon during that war), this is my minimal obligation as a human.

No, he has not. That is not humiliation that is actually praise of KSA's economic power. Saying "that is peanuts for you" is hardly an "insult" is it? MbS has never sucked up to Trump or any US president in this manner (like numerous leaders just did in Egypt recently) nor any Saudi Arabian king in the past. In fact speaking about economics, the oil embargo of the 1970's that KSA was behind, hurt the US/West more economically than any other action by Muslim leaders in modern history.

Well, they will have to because KSA is likely not going to do it. Maybe Qatar will. if I was a ruler, I would not do it out of principle for the reasons that I stated. West/US/Israel has more money combined anyway and they should be paying for their own crimes.

Pretty sure that this will also occur eventually. GCC/Arab states will probably do some funding (expecting returns) but no free Swedish buffet and being taken advantage of IMO.

 

[Falcon29]

Netanyahu to CBS News: If the second part is not carried out peacefully, I heard President Trump say that the gates of hell will be opened

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[Falcon29]

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[Persian Gulf]

No, he has not. That is not humiliation that is actually praise of KSA's economic power. Saying "that is peanuts for you" is hardly an "insult" is it? MbS has never sucked up to Trump or any US president in this manner (like numerous leaders just did in Egypt recently) nor any Saudi Arabian king in the past. In fact speaking about economics, the oil embargo of the 1970's that KSA was behind, hurt the US/West more economically than any other action by Muslim leaders in modern history.

Well, they will have to because KSA is likely not going to do it. Maybe Qatar will. if I was a ruler, I would not do it out of principle for the reasons that I stated. West/US/Israel has more money combined anyway and they should be paying for their own crimes.

Pretty sure that this will also occur eventually. GCC/Arab states will probably do some funding (expecting returns) but no free Swedish buffet and being taken advantage of IMO.

do you think MBS knew about the placards? and there wasn't an undertone of 'look how much money you are giving us for this stuff?' I felt it was humiliating. Trump has also made disparaging comments about the Saudi King ('he would not last two weeks without US support'), but Trump is a retard who makes stupid comments about everyone so we'll ignore that one.

MBS plays the game of giving Trump the big number investments that he likes to brag about. it's not a pretty game but better than pissing him off considering he is mentally a toddler and quite vindictive.

yes the oil embargo in the 70s was effective, but the Arab states are now much closer with the West so they won't use that leverage again any time soon

 

[Falcon29]

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[Persian Gulf]

Israel killed 308 (!) journalists in Gaza since 2023

153 (50%) of them were killed while they were at home

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

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[_Arabia_]

do you think MBS knew about the placards? and there wasn't an undertone of 'look how much money you are giving us for this stuff?' I felt it was humiliating. Trump has also made disparaging comments about the Saudi King ('he would not last two weeks without US support'), but Trump is a retard who makes stupid comments about everyone so we'll ignore that one.

MBS plays the game of giving Trump the big number investments that he likes to brag about. it's not a pretty game but better than pissing him off considering he is mentally a toddler and quite vindictive.

yes the oil embargo in the 70s was effective, but the Arab states are now much closer with the West so they won't use that leverage again any time soon

Why would he not? What is wrong with placards showing possible/future Saudi Arabian purchases? I saw nothing humiliating about it, rather the contrary he went overboard showcasing Saudi Arabian wealth and power. As for that comment, aside from being ridiculous (the House of Saud have been in power for 305 years, around 50 + longer than the US has even existed as a country), Trump has made similar and much worse comments about every single nation and leader out there. Nobody is taking this seriously or anything that Trump says for that matter as he is lying in every second statement of his. He is a showman/entertainer/con artist that somehow has gained power in the most powerful nation on earth.

Exactly, which is all this is about. Same stuff occurred back in 2017 when Trump visited KSA as his first foreign visit. To date not even 20% of those deals signed have ever been implemented. People can freely Google it.

Yes, every state/country is doing it, given that he is the ruler of the most powerful nation on earth. So every relevant leader/country wants to have him on their side rather than the opposite. All main Muslim leaders (relevant) are doing business with him and his family and associates as well.

I am curious to see what will happen in 3 years and 3 months when he becomes irrelevant (no longer is the president). How will they look at the Trump family? Maybe as some sort of investment given that many in his family or close associates are rumored to be running for office in the future.

This is high-level/global politics, an ugly affair, always was and always will be. Full of nepotism, corruption etc. No different in the West.

Truth, the Arab world and the West are much closer but also the role of Arab oil and oil as a whole as a source of energy has diminished as well and even if implemented again, it would not be that effective.

For instance the US is the largest oil producer in the world today and mostly self-sufficient. After the Russian sanctions in Europe, they have also tried to take over the oil and gas market in Europe (now Europeans are importing much more expensive US oil and gas compared to Russian) and in the process making a fortune. Add the added weapons sales to Europe (using Russia as a bogeyman) and they (USA) are making quite the heist.

Anyway we are off-topic so ending it here.

 

[Falcon29]

Israel is trying to form many militias in Gaza

In areas under its control

So it can later say Gaza is ruined in civil war by dozens of terrorist factions

And that is has to intervene to exterminate Gaza and end Palestine

That's why Arabs should do everything in their power to make sure this ceasefire holds and ends with a full Israeli withdrawal

 

[Falcon29]

Abu Shabab gangs (People's Army)

Funded and trained by the Palestinian Authority and the United Arab Emirates, they work with the occupation army in Gaza. Notice the occupation army's bulldozers demolishing homes and buildings in Gaza.

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[Unknown987]

Why no reference statehood and self determination for the Palestinian people? That statement doesn't address the root cause

Netanyahu to CBS News: If the second part is not carried out peacefully, I heard President Trump say that the gates of hell will be opened

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MAN OF PEACE - only 2 countries have suggested noble peace price for president Ducky Dump Pakistan and Israel.

 

[Khansaheeb]

Almost every single Arab (500 + million) is pan-Arab by nature (I am no different) but there is a difference between being that and being an outright retard.

In what world does it make any sense to you for KSA (or any other Arab country for that matter) to be paying for the damage and genocide that another party (Israel/Zionists) and their partners (USA and West) have committed?

I don't care about kinship here and it is totally irrelevant as well. Out of principle KSA should not be doing this.

Even more so when it is just a question of time before the Israelis destroy Gaza again as they have been doing on average every 10 years or so.

Yet despite all of this (your claims) Iran has had all of this (money, supposed ties) to be able to spend billions upon billions every year on the likes of Hezbollah, Iraqi pro-Iran militias, Houthis etc. for the past 40 + years? Makes no sense. Iran has plenty of money as well and resources and since 1979 took the mantle of "resistance" in the region and your officials have probably 1 million times or more, claimed and boasted about how they will defeat Israel and liberate Palestine unlike everyone else in the region.


Not sure about the numbers but it was clearly a mistake. Lebanon remains a failed and divided nation and KSA gains nothing (or any other country for that matter) from investing in this nation. We should be investing in Yemen and Sudan next door. Fellow Arab countries as well but with a huge booming demography and a lot of economic potential. Even Egypt, despite being ruled by the corrupt military establishment is a better investment destination for the very same reasons. Also next door.

Never understood this fixation (past one) on Lebanon. An artificial country created by the French which should be a part of Syria to begin with and probably will become so, sometime in the future anyway.

LUCKILY and THANKFULLY this era has ended permanently. Now it is KSA first and investments are now based on numerous conditions that are beneficial for KSA. No longer any free Swedish buffets. Never supported by the people (citizens) either.

Quite a selfish and un-Islamic view point, are you a Saudi Jew? All Muslims must help the Palestinians in any way they can including stopping trade with the Jews , sending food, money and arms to the Palestinians and helping in every humanitarian way they can. When KSA was threatened by Israel it was Islamic Pakistan who came to the rescue. KSA is welcome to seek help from the US Zions if they want to suffer the same fate as Gaza.