Israel Invasion of Syria has Begun!!! 19th and 20th Century Crusade plus Zionism war is its final touches

[Solomon2]

as always there won't be any proof of such claims?

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...Syrian villagers on the border with Israel have been collecting weapons and ammunition left in the area by the army and handing them over to the Israel Defense Forces, Channel 12 reported Monday.

In a video broadcast by the channel, hundreds of crates containing ammunition and weapons could be seen gathered and then loaded onto trucks.

According to the report, rebels who swept out the Assad regime last week are also helping in the operation.
The weapons apparently come from Syrian army bases and outposts where soldiers abandoned their positions amid the rebel takeover. Some were also leftovers from the years of civil war in Syria, the report said.

IDF soldiers at the scene explained that some of the weapons contained “chemical warfare material.”

These included hand grenades they said contained CS gas, commonly used as tear gas.

Screen capture from undated video of IDF soldiers in Syria displaying grenades they said were filled with CS gas and were handed over to the IDF by local villagers. (Channel 12: Used in accordance with Clause 27a of the Copyright Law)

One soldier said there were crateloads of such grenades. They cause irritation and must not be touched directly...

https://www.timesofisrael.com/report-syrian-border-villagers-and-rebels-collecting-weapons-and-handing-them-to-idf/

 

[Alter_Ego]

How is it a Crusade? Is it made in the name of religion? Is it made to reconquer the Holy Land? This is nonsense.

What makes you believe the crusade was about religion and not about geopolitics?

Or that war in Iraq and libya was about spreading democracy.

 

[Alter_Ego]

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The sad story?
It was done by muslims

zionists only plotted… muslims did the job willingly

 

[Foinikas]

What makes you believe the crusade was about religion and not about geopolitics?

Or that war in Iraq and libya was about spreading democracy.

1.Are we gonna go back to the Crusades again and talk about medieval stuff?
2.Nobody said the war in Iraq and Libya was about spreading democracy. That's the irony of the war.

 

[_Arabia_]

1.Are we gonna go back to the Crusades again and talk about medieval stuff?
2.Nobody said the war in Iraq and Libya was about spreading democracy. That's the irony of the war.

Did Bush Junior not openly talk about a modern crusade? I remember the entire rhetoric in the West back then. It was all about "evil Muzlim terrorists" everywhere. "Either you are with us or against us" rhetoric as well. All the slurs aimed at Iraqis. We remember. Was "Haji" not one of the main slurs used by American soldiers? Many others related to religion/culture.

It was portrayed as a civilizational conflict. As a war against the Muslims.

Just like in Afghanistan.

All the dehumanization in the media, Hollywood etc.

It was all by design.

Same way with the rhetoric against refugees in Europe. Many of which (if not most) are not actual Arabs nevertheless the West was quick to demonize people who fled from countries that the same West helped destroy.

All what we are discussing here are just slogans. Look at the ground reality and what occurred.

Ever since the creation of Israel, which was the work of Eastern European Zionists supported by the entire West (UK and USA), most of later conflicts are either directly tied to that event, indirectly or used as a fuel.

I don't know how regular Greeks view all of this, the Arab world/Middle East, other than knowing (just also from observing you here) that you guys are anti-Turkey (due to Ottoman history I imagine). Maybe you look at it differently. In many ways Greece is closer to the Middle East next door from a historical, geographical, cultural etc. level than you guys are to say Scandinavia or the UK.

 

[Foinikas]

Did Bush Senior not openly talk about a modern crusade? I remember the entire rhetoric in the West back then. It was all about "evil Muzlim terrorists" everywhere. "Either you are with us or against us" rhetoric as well. All the slurs aimed at Iraqis. We remember.

It was portrayed as a civilizational conflict. As a war against the Muslims.

Just like in Afghanistan.

All the dehumanization in the media, Hollywood etc.

It was all by design.

Bush included a lot of stuff in. Saddam has WMDs and axis of evil and democracy and freedom and all that.

What's the "we remember". Who's we? Because a lot of Muslims and Arabs were against Saddam.

 

[_Arabia_]

Bush included a lot of stuff in. Saddam has WMDs and axis of evil and democracy and freedom and all that.

What's the "we remember". Who's we? Because a lot of Muslims and Arabs were against Saddam.

We remember the rhetoric that included religion (Islam), race (Arabs) and all the propaganda (from Hollywood to media) that in many ways still continues to this very day.

The Iraq war was for nothing else other than geopolitics, money, power, influence and the removal of Saddam in order to further strengthen Israel's position in the region.

I was just arguing why you are not right when you write that "crusades" ended long ago. Yes, the actual crusades ended, but not the views of those in power in the West in regards to the region, Muslims and Arabs.

Otherwise why talk about a modern crusade when you invade a Muslim Arab country (Iraq) or Afghanistan? Would that rhetoric have been used if Vietnam was invaded again?

Or the entire demonization in the media/Hollywood? Or slurs like "Haji" and what not?

There was clearly a racial/civilizational/religious element in those wars and continue to be the case.

It is not a one-way street. Just like there are fanatics among us, the same is the case with the West. "Problem" here is that idiots/heretics like ISIS can only do a few terrorist attacks in the West (that also ironically kills Muslims there) while the West has the ability to invade and ruin entire countries. The scales are very different.

Those that rejoiced with the fall of Iraq and Saddam were mostly Iraqi Shia Arabs (who later took power in Iraq courtesy of the US) and Kurds and their supporters in the region. Other than that, despite his many faults, Saddam remains popular for his anti-Israeli policies and for stopping the Iranian regime export of the Wilayat al-Faqih project post-1979. When Saddam was around there was zero Iranian regime influence in Iraq.

So yeah, compare it to North Macedonia or Albania being occupied by a foreign superpower (say China or USA) and a foreign sponsored-regime being put in place that would go from suddenly pro-Greek sentiments to anti-Greek sentiments.

It is only now in the past few years, that Iraq and other Arab states have reestablished trust and cooperation again.

For instance the Iraqi prime minister (Al-Sudani) visited Al-Ula and met with MbS today. Relations between KSA and Iraq are very cordial and close nowadays, in particular between the militaries.

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[Foinikas]

The Iraq war was for nothing else other than geopolitics, money, power, influence and the removal of Saddam in order to further strengthen Israel's position in the region.

If I say the Sherlock line will you get angry at me?

Otherwise why talk about a modern crusade when you invade a Muslim Arab country (Iraq) or Afghanistan? Would that rhetoric have been used if Vietnam was invaded again?

Because Bush is an idiot and mixed a lot of different things. In the end,it all came down to a series of wars for geopolitical gain,but the only one who actually had something to gain out of this was Israel. The Americans didn't gain some advantage against the Russians and they spent trillions of dollars and thousands of lives in the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. I don't know how much profit they made,but the problem is they distabilized the entire Middle-East. And they did it again and again,as if they never learn anything.

So yeah, compare it to North Macedonia or Albania being occupied by a foreign superpower (say China or USA) and a foreign sponsored-regime being put in place that would go from suddenly pro-Greek sentiments to anti-Greek sentiments.

But they already have anti-Greek sentiments Hahahaha

 

[_Arabia_]

If I say the Sherlock line will you get angry at me?


Because Bush is an idiot and mixed a lot of different things. In the end,it all came down to a series of wars for geopolitical gain,but the only one who actually had something to gain out of this was Israel. The Americans didn't gain some advantage against the Russians and they spent trillions of dollars and thousands of lives in the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. I don't know how much profit they made,but the problem is they distabilized the entire Middle-East. And they did it again and again,as if they never learn anything.

But they already have anti-Greek sentiments Hahahaha

You know what outside of social media and online forums most ordinary people, regardless of their religion, race, ethnicity or nationality, can work out things between them just fine. It is the rulers and secret powers behind the thrones that tend to mess up most of the world due to greed, ego, delusions, arrogance etc.

The Americans, if they were smart, would have controlled Israel ages ago, and tried to establish truly genuinely mutually beneficial ties with the Arab and Muslim world. This would ironically have given them far more influence, power and security. Eventually what every nation states is after in particular self-proclaimed superpowers/sherifs of the world, lol.

The whole Iraq war was one giant fiasco. Afghanistan as well.

Yeah, actually that was a bad example as you guys tend to have somewhat murky ties with all neighbors. North Macedonia due to history and that naming dispute, Albanians due to their irredentism and some other causes I forgot, Turkey and Turks you can better explain than me (LOL). You guys had murky ties with the last remaining direct neighbor (Bulgaria) from what I recall as well. They used to control/rule Northern Greece and Thessaloniki.

Seems almost to me that Greece has more cordial/stable ties with the likes of Egypt, KSA further away in the neighborhood.

Ties seem to be fairly cordial and good.

https://www.mfa.gr/en/bilateral-relations/saudi-arabia/

https://www.arabnews.com/node/2509416

I remember reading about Greek archaeologists being involved in many historical excavations of ancient civilizations and artifacts across KSA as well.

Anyway I don't recall Greece being involved in Iraq and Afghanistan (I have not googled that so could be wrong) and in general I don't remember any Arabs having a problem with Greece. At least not in KSA.

 

[EugeneP]

The sad story?
It was done by muslims

zionists only plotted… muslims did the job willingly

I don't know the accuracy of these stories; but if it is true, it reminds me of an ancient saying by a great Christian: “I would rather be ruled by a just Turk than by an unjust Christian.” Maybe we are seeing a variation of that, with Jew and Muslim replacing Turk and Christian. I have read more than one Pakistani pining for British rule in the country; may be in jest or for some people more than that.

 

[Cash gk]

1.Are we gonna go back to the Crusades again and talk about medieval stuff?
2.Nobody said the war in Iraq and Libya was about spreading democracy. That's the irony of the war.

Why truth is hurting you are you crusade?

 

[Cash gk]

Some people are hurt as truth is open now

 

[Foinikas]

The Americans, if they were smart, would have controlled Israel ages ago, and tried to establish truly genuinely mutually beneficial ties with the Arab and Muslim world. This would ironically have given them far more influence, power and security. Eventually what every nation states is after in particular self-proclaimed superpowers/sherifs of the world, lol.

Unfortunately,they have infiltrated the governments a long time ago. Let me show you something:

Marie-Antoinette came to see this quite clearly. In August of 1790 she wrote to her brother Emperor Leopold of Austria: "Be well on your guard where you are with regard to all associations of Freemasons. You must already have been warned that it is by this means that all monsters here count on attaining the same end in every country. Oh, God, preserve my Fatherland and you from such misfortunes." ( Lettres de Marie-Antoinette, edited by Maxime de la Rocheterie, 2 vol., 1895) For Marie-Antoinette and Louis XVI, the warnings had not been heeded, until it was too late.

 

[Foinikas]

Why truth is hurting you are you crusade?

Am I crusade?

 

[Waz]

Am I crusade?

Depends on whether you take British/French/German citizenship and kit out like this;