Israel is itching to go to war with Turkiye and Egypt

[r3alist]

No, Iran is no angel either. Everybody knows that, but these turks talk it up here as if AL-Turkiya as some sort of a benchmark of Muzlim-ness?

When we all know they are totally in bed with the Zionists.

AL-Turkiya is in NATO bhai, in case you haven't noticed yet!

Dude come on, you are too intelligent not to understand that turkey has developed its own strength in its own way, and that is their prerogative.... If they were that much in partnership then they would not be declared enemy and financially attacked.

It seems like turkey made a grand bargain to embed itself within the West and NATO decades ago......until it had a choice not to, which is what China did as well economically until it also became a threat

Not everything can change overnight, NATO is withering away, Europe is going to start sucking up to Turkey to keep it less irrelevant, they are acknowledged as the next strongest military force, they are developing their own engine and fifth gen fighter..... I am not trying to debate these things individually just as a collective to say their independence to the west is decreasing and guess who is worried most...

 

[Ravenman]

No, Iran is no angel either. Everybody knows that, but these turks talk it up here as if AL-Turkiya as some sort of a benchmark of Muzlim-ness?

When we all know they are totally in bed with the Zionists.

AL-Turkiya is in NATO bhai, in case you haven't noticed yet!

Turkey joined NATO in the '50's because Stalin was planning to invade North-East Turkey. It was a move of self interest, everyone without a garlicbrain could see that.

Israel applied more than 10 times to join NATO, and Turkey is the only country that vetoed this every time.

 

[Lulldapull]

Turkey joined NATO in the '50's because Stalin was planning to invade North-East Turkey. It was a move of self interest, everyone without a garlicbrain could see that.

Israel applied more than 10 times to join NATO, and Turkey is the only country that vetoed this every time.

Brah paleej (like hendu dalit)........Yous wuz dismantled by the west in 1923 and a puppet installed like da Shaw and ever since then yous ben a satrap for them euro's no?

A ghudd progressive muzz-Lim no?

Come on now.

 

[Lulldapull]

@r3alist ok then so don't say yous Muzz-Lim then.......Just be like Shahi Iranis or like these Erdogan turks. Progressive Muzz-Lim no?

Living out west like second class citizens.

You think I don't know whats going on in da EU?

You better perform or they'd deport yous all........

 

[r3alist]

@r3alist ok then so don't say yous Muzz-Lim then.......Just be like Shahi Iranis or like these Erdogan turks. Progressive Muzz-Lim no?

Living out west like second class citizens.

You think I don't know whats going on in da EU?

You better perform or they'd deport yous all........

We are talking about Turkey here right?


Turkey has always had European influence from the time of the ottomans, despite this are they not making themselves strong and independent directionally and aspirationally?

Really what you are saying is Turkey should be like Iran and become an ideological and revolutionary state at the cost of societal and technological growth, which then makes them closer to Islam, something like that?
Iran and turkey are both using nationalist narratives to survive, they are both using previous empire narratives and influences to project their power, that seems to be the way things have always been
Why is one worse so better than the other, I just find it peculiar there why go after Turkey when if turkey are what you think then they could have acted against Iran, but they dismissed the provocations did they not?

 

[Lulldapull]

We are talking about Turkey here right?


Turkey has always had European influence from the time of the ottomans, despite this are they not making themselves strong and independent directionally and aspirationally?

Really what you are saying is Turkey should be like Iran and become an ideological and revolutionary state at the cost of societal and technological growth, which then makes them closer to Islam, something like that?
Iran and turkey are both using nationalist narratives to survive, they are both using previous empire narratives and influences to project their power, that seems to be the way things have always been
Why is one worse so better than the other, I just find it peculiar there why go after Turkey when if turkey are what you think then they could have acted against Iran, but they dismissed the provocations did they not?

No they're not making themselves stronk at all.

You think they can stand against the Zio's for a week on their own?

Really?

Are you kidding?

Did you not listen to what Sandhu Singh said a few hours ago?

According to him we'd get dismantled without the US firing even a shot no?

Didn't you hear what he said?

@MS Sandhu

 

[r3alist]

No they're not making themselves stronk at all.

You think they can stand against the Zio's for a week on their own?

Really?

Are you kidding?

Diplomatically they seem to have equidistant Headroom with Europe and USA, the Europeans would not attack Turkey no chance, and the Americans would not support Israel to attack Turkey, and turkey is too important to lose to Russia and China, because that would be a dagger into the NATO and western security architecture. Turkey has cards to play, I know you won't like hearing that, Iran also for the time being has cards to play, they both do

So in a 1 Vs 1, are you saying Israel would do what?

 

[Lulldapull]

Diplomatically they seem to have equidistant Headroom with Europe and USA, the Europeans would not attack Turkey no chance, and the Americans would not support Israel to attack Turkey, and turkey is too important to lose to Russia and China, because that would be a dagger into the NATO and western security architecture. Turkey has cards to play, I know you won't like hearing that, Iran also for the time being has cards to play, they both do

So in a 1 Vs 1, are you saying Israel would do what?

What cards does AL-Turkiya have other than their location'd? What else bhai?

Its just too easy to regime change them like @MS Sandhu suggests no?

Same same with Sawdi Judea no? or for that matter any other outfit out there man.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Will India step up and provide weapons if the Americans refuse?

I mean what do you think this strategic partnership is leading to, Israel helped India right so it's only fair India does the same if it's asked

If the folks had the understanding of how these Zionist folks look down upon other races they would have been astonished. As per their "religious" understanding, they are the children of Iblis and Bibi Hava (Nauzubillah); hence, they're "super smart" and stealing the lives, honor, wealth etc. of the Beni Adam are "Halal" to them....