Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present
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FuturePAF
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If something is to endure from this conflict, in the collective memory of the Palestinians, The Arabs, The Muslims, The downtrodden masses of the world, is that being at the mercy of others is a recipe for disaster.
Being dependent upon the powerful being satiated is what we were directly warned about.
So, for it’s own part, to properly respect the sacrifice the Palestinians are making, countries like Pakistan need to properly work out our internal problems and build ourselves up, so we may be of use to anyone. Not talking a lot and being able to afford to do nothing because we are so dependent on others.
Being dependent upon the powerful being satiated is what we were directly warned about.
So, for it’s own part, to properly respect the sacrifice the Palestinians are making, countries like Pakistan need to properly work out our internal problems and build ourselves up, so we may be of use to anyone. Not talking a lot and being able to afford to do nothing because we are so dependent on others.
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Indos
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This is during colonial times, not anymore now...
FuturePAF
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We are living in new colonial times, just under new labels. Look at the brothers in Francophone Africa, whose currency is set by the central bank in France. Look at the GCC countries that have investments in the west that they have to chance of pulling, unless they see their governments toppled, the way the oil rich Libya and Iraq saw their rulers toppled. (The GCC rulers are not very different from the princely states under the British Raj).
Perhaps Indonesia and Malaysia are more free then most Muslim countries but you can’t say unless these countries reconcile internally and adhere to a goal of achieving self sufficiency or at least interdependence amongst other Muslim majority countries, they won’t be dependent on whims of major powers.
And without sufficient true economic and political independence, most of these countries are of little use to peoples like the Palestinians.
We can have sympathies, but what else can we do but feel ashamed at our weakness. I recently meet a woman from Gaza (a few days ago). She looked physically and emotionally exhausted. What could I say to her, but express my sympathies and pray for her and her family.
Look at what the people of Palestine chanted in front of Al Aqsa. Even if we had a leader like IK in power, our economic situation binds us to have little options.
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Khansaheeb
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If the Western countries can support a genocidal Nazi regime why can't Muslims support terrorists>?
Unknowntruth
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Keep pushing liesUN cuts Gaza civilian casualty figures by half, without explanation
UN spokesperson excuses discrepancy as resulting from fog of war; Israeli officials calls UN group a disgrace after Israel has long contended that the UN agencies rely on false Hamas information, spreading the terror group's propaganda
UN spokesperson asked about civilian casualty figures cut in half
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The United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA) published new figures of civilians killed in Gaza, as the result of Israeli strikes, cutting the previous numbers in half. OCHA gave no explanation for the surprising new count that was released on May 10 just days after the earlier release of much higher figures on May 6 and May 8.
The UN now claims that in total 24,686 people were confirmed killed, including 7,797 children (32%), 4,959 women (20%.) Hamas figures claim 35,091 were killed since October 7, including 14,500 children and 9,500 women.
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Farhan Haq, deputy spokesman for U.N. Secretary-General António Guterres (Photo: screenshot)
OCHA said it was relying on figures provided by the Palestinian health officials in Gaza and that their tally does not include 10,000 people who are unaccounted for, some possibly buried under rubble. In a disclaimer posted on OCHA's website, the organization said it has not been able to produce independent and verified figures.
"The current numbers have been provided by the Ministry of Health or the Government Media Office in Gaza and the Israeli authorities and await further verification. Other yet-to-be verified figures are also sourced," the disclaimer reads.
Farhan Haq, deputy spokesman for U.N. Secretary-General António Guterres excused the discrepancies as the result of the fog of war and said OCHA received information from various sources and cross-checked them, updating the figures over time.
Israel has claimed since the early days of the war, that the Hamas health authorities in Gaza were providing the international organization with false figures. "OCHA is a disgrace," said on Israeli official. "They did not even bother to put out an announcement after cutting the number of women and children who had been killed nearly by half."
Al Ahli hospital in Gaza after failed rocket launch causes a fire there
(Photo: Mohammed Al-Masri / Reuters)
The Foreign Ministry said the casualty figures claimed by the Hamas terror group and quoted by UN agencies, are inaccurate, manipulated and do not reflect the reality. "We are still waiting for OCHA to own up to the fact that the explosion at the Al-Ahli hospital in Gaza in October, which was blamed on Israel, was the result of a failed rocket launch by the Palestinian Islamic Jihad," the ministry said of an incident that was confirmed by international intelligence agencies and humanitarian organizations not to have been caused by an Israeli strike.
The ministry went on to say that OCHA still had not issued any condemnation of the use of hospital facilities and infrastructure, by Hamas for terrorism or the use of other civilian infrastructure by the terrorists for the same aim.
"All that is consistently ignored by OUCHA which has been publishing Hamas propaganda in its reports without any process of verification in what has been proven as a defective and unprofessional methodology. We call on the international community to take OCHA's reports with a grain of salt."
UN cuts Gaza civilian casualty figures by half without explanation
UN spokesperson excuses discrepancy as resulting from fog of war; Israeli officials call UN group 'disgrace' as Israel long contended UN agencies rely on false Hamas information, spreading terror group's propagandawww.ynetnews.com
Your own western media
UN denies Gaza death toll of women and children has been revised down
Spokesperson says confusion results from Gaza health ministry’s new way of classifying those not yet fully identified
amp.theguardian.com
The UN has denied that the estimated death toll of women and children in the war in Gaza has been revised downward, pointing towards a confusion between the total numbers of dead bodies recorded, and the number of those who have so far been fully identified.
After the Gaza health ministry’s revised totals of those killed first appeared on the website of the UN’s office for the coordination of humanitarian affairs (Ocha), they were quickly seized on as proof by pro-Israel media and commentators that the UN had previously been exaggerating the toll.
They showed 24,686 dead which appeared to be a downward revision from the figure of about 35,000 which had been reported earlier in May, with 7,797 children and 4,959 women confirmed dead, about half the toll cited in previous reports. But the UN said on Monday that estimated overall death toll remained about 35,000.
Can we trust casualty figures from the Hamas-run Gaza health ministry?
Farhan Haq, a UN spokesperson, said the new smaller numbers reflected those bodies which had been fully identified. The bigger figures included corpses for whom identification has so far not been completed. Haq said it was expected that, as the process of identification continued, the official tolls among women and children would also rise.
Indos
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I would rather passionate about our current time. This is the momentus period for Muslim world, transition period. The next phase needs contribution all of us as newer Muslim generation that is given responsibility on this period.
FuturePAF
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Indeed, we are living in momentous times. Everything has been laid bare and we have seen others achieve with hard work, why not us as well.
This is why the foundation needs to be on made on firm principles of respect for each nation’s sovereignty, internal responsibilities to each other and rule of law, so that we can build on a meritocratic basis, where the sky is the limit.
UKBengali
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It’s so sad when Arab traitors die for the enemy and are still looked upon as nothing, I am firm believer Palestinians and arabs of any religious or sect should always take care of one another it’s hilarious when these people don’t see they are just tools to be discarded when they aren’t needed.
Tensions simmer at Druze memorial ceremony attended by Likud minister Nir Barkat
As activists demonstrate peacefully, Druze spiritual leader Sheikh Mowafaq Tarif calls on state to allow young Druze to build legally on their landwww.timesofisrael.com
Pathetic traitors.
mulj
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this could be total game changer for resistance, there should be effort to bring them as many as possible those commercial drones, even with corrupt and restrictive egypt regime this should not be to hard to deliver.
Hassan Al-Somal
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