PakFactor
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Looking at Khaled's picture hits my heart very hard. I feel nothing but anger at the Israelis; may God curse those Jews.
Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present
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Looking at Khaled's picture hits my heart very hard. I feel nothing but anger at the Israelis; may God curse those Jews.
PakFactor
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Indeed, it's been used as a prop to further their sheikhdoms. But the question will be, this humiliation of the Middle East and even white Europeans who were on the Arab side have seen them as a lost cause; what's to stop Israel from further encroaching on land? What's there to prevent others from coming? As we've seen, without Western armament and intel, these GCC militaries aren't capable of anything on their own.
Starlord
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I may not have foresee a Oct 7th but I'd be fool to not admit that I knew Gaza's will launch a offensive to break through the shackles of prisons one way or the other, out of anyone else Americans should be one to stand with Palestinians but they stand with oppressors and that is what my argument is with Americans, I've asked so many Americans from all walks of life, From hard core rednecks to Sissy LGBTQ's gay's, Librarian to Neo-con, Protestant to Ashkenazi, Atheist to secular all gave me the same response.
I asked them one simple question, what If Govt place 2 cop cars outside your house, surround your house with walls, and you are not free to leave or enter the house without their permission, your food/electricity/medicine/entertainment all depends on what is let through by the cops, no one can come visit you without cops harassing them, strip searching and keeping them wait in lines, how long you think you can last in a life like that?
All have similar Answer, we will eventually go out and force ourselves out of that situation and if cops try to use power we will fight and go down fighting, that is exactly what Palestinians in Gaza life look like, to what a American can't stand more than a month they are living for decades while seeing half of their country being taken over bit by bit.
So yes any or almost everyone saw Hamas Attack coming, as for things like Syrian revolution, I mean seriously you don't have to be a Prophet to predict Asshead demise as he slaughter his own people with impunity, his country in ruins and people outside capital hates him, Russia get involved in Ukraine and Arab leaders/radicals attacks Syrian supporters left right and center, it was the matter of time Asshead falls.
Last for KSA normalizing the relationship with Israel is yet to be seen, as I said there is nothing wrong with building diplomatic ties with Israel, I was a supporter of Pakistan building ties with Israel but only if they accept the statehood of Palestinians and treat them like human beings not animals, many Muslims would like to visit a safe Jerusalem and other holy sites, doesn't matter if they are guarded by IDF or UN peacekeeping forces as long as there is peace in the land and people are treated fairly. So for Israel when Gaza is open to the world and hundreds upon hundreds dead people and children bodies will uncover the world will not forget, there is a ICC arrest warrant for Bibi and Galant, while USA is protecting war criminal, what US did has undermined UN/ICC/ICJ credibility for the world, the Champion of Human rights and freedom/Liberty protecting War criminals and threaten judges on behalf of Israel that's pathetic.
In last, I've said it many times and will say it again, USA has done many good things for world and it has created strong independent institutions to protect its own democracy and I admire that, but 80% wars/Genocides are directly/indirectly connected or cause by Americans, and world will take breath of relief when the day comes that evil empire like many others will see it end, and What Israel has done that they have tied their future with America, when they should've been with ME'ern Arabs who are closest to them in ideology/DNA/religion/culture etc those White America who are shouting Long live Israel only wants Israel for Jews so their Messiah can return and kill 2/3rds of them and rest convert, And while it serves a more greater purpose of putting a knife in the heart of Arab land, Israel was/is/will always be used for spying, regime toppling covert operations, with them help of MOSSAD/CIA network they have build a network so strong that they day any Arab leader walk away from the Assignment his fate will not be any different than King Faisal, Gaddafi, Saddam, Asshead, Morsi and the list goes on...
Let me tell you another thing today, you can subjugate Arabs and kill Millions of them but they will be the dominant force in the region for centuries to come, when time are dire and people are weak that gives birth to strong leaders who lead their people against the Oppression and killings, this is no predication its just History repeating itself, yes it may take few decades or even half or a Century for Arabs to realize that they are nothing but pieces of sh!t to Americans and Israeli's will among them rise leaders that will challenge the status que. And America once it will serve its purpose to the Zionists will be discarded like Russia/Britain and many other EU powers.
Unknowntruth
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There will always be resistance as long as there is occupation. Gaza is sealed off so it’s very limited especially with traitor Arab countries helping enforce blockade. Hezbollah will still manage to get weapons and will always be a force to fight.
Starlord
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He already did, They have betrayed Moses AS, Tried to kill Isa AS and Muhammad SAW, they are a treacherous nation from noble men, who have given favors upon favors and yet they transgress, sooner or later their time and luck runs out and so will America's. There was once a time when Genghis Khan and his Hoards were feeling invincible, later the Ummayad's then Ottomans, Romans, Byzantines , British and now USA... but The higher you fly the hard your fall will be.
Meengla
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Right. There might be some new PDF members who did not know but there were plenty of warnings by Hamas to Israel during the Trump era about reprisals to Israel if the increasingly aggressive Israeli policies against the Palestinians in the West Bank and encroachments on the Muslims holy places in Jerusalem were not stopped. It would help us to look up news in the Trump era. And when the Gazans were prepared for October 7, 2023 they struck inside Israel when the Israeli defenses were found weak.
There is a strong anti-Islam bias in America and that goes back decades. The 9/11 attacks cemented that but even prior to that attacks like the ones on USS Cole, World Trade Center, the attempted smuggling from a certain terrorist from Canada in the late 90s, the bombing of the US embassies in Africa in the 90s.... The 'Mujahideen' of Afghanistan of the 80s turned 'terrorists' in the 90s.
Plus it definitely serves the Israeli interests to portray all Muslims as backward, extremists and so the media is on overdrive for decades on that agenda. And it doesn't help that a tiny minority of Muslims in the Western countries act like they are the foot soldiers of the Taliban--and of course the Afghan Taliban are a class in themselves in backward behavior.
So the anti-Islam narrative is not hard to build and some Muslims have definitely provided enough material to the narrative. However, if this is any consolation: Americans don't particularly care if half a million Russians and Ukrainians, who are white and Christians, have been killed and the count goes on...
Meengla
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I have full sympathy for Lebanon and Syria but, well, I hope Israel does make settlements in Jordan and Egypt! Those countries have earned it! They have bought short term peace and have agreed to live under the thumb of a colonial power and so bear the consequences!
Foreign Minister Gideon Sa’ar called Ireland’s President Michael Higgins an “antisemitic liar” on Tuesday, not long after Israel announced the shuttering of its embassy in Dublin, citing “anti-Israel” policy.
Sa’ar’s comments came after Higgins accused Israel of breaching Lebanon’s and Syria’s sovereignty and charged, without evidence, that Jerusalem was seeking to establish settlements in Egypt.
The foreign minister has defended his Sunday decision to close Israel’s embassy in Ireland, saying that Dublin “encouraged” antisemitism under a prime minister he accused of hating Jews.
Responding on Tuesday, Higgins said that he saw it as a “very serious business to actually brand a people because in fact they disagree with Prime Minister [Benjamin] Netanyahu, who is in breach of so many bits of international law, and who has beached the sovereignty of three of his neighbors, in relation to Lebanon, Syria, and would like in fact actually to have a settlement into Egypt.”
Speaking during a ceremony at which Palestinian Authority envoy Jilan Abdalmajid presented her letter of credence, Higgins added, “I think to suggest that because one criticized Prime Minister Netanyahu that one is antisemitic is such a gross defamation and slander.”
Foreign Minister Gideon Sa’ar called Ireland’s President Michael Higgins an “antisemitic liar” on Tuesday, not long after Israel announced the shuttering of its embassy in Dublin, citing “anti-Israel” policy.
Sa’ar’s comments came after Higgins accused Israel of breaching Lebanon’s and Syria’s sovereignty and charged, without evidence, that Jerusalem was seeking to establish settlements in Egypt.
The foreign minister has defended his Sunday decision to close Israel’s embassy in Ireland, saying that Dublin “encouraged” antisemitism under a prime minister he accused of hating Jews.
Responding on Tuesday, Higgins said that he saw it as a “very serious business to actually brand a people because in fact they disagree with Prime Minister [Benjamin] Netanyahu, who is in breach of so many bits of international law, and who has beached the sovereignty of three of his neighbors, in relation to Lebanon, Syria, and would like in fact actually to have a settlement into Egypt.”
Speaking during a ceremony at which Palestinian Authority envoy Jilan Abdalmajid presented her letter of credence, Higgins added, “I think to suggest that because one criticized Prime Minister Netanyahu that one is antisemitic is such a gross defamation and slander.”
If USA cut off all weapon supply to Israel, I think there won't be any weapons to mount attacks on neighboring countries and there will be a peace in the middle east too.
Ali_Baba
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How Facebook restricted news in Palestinian territories
Palestinian news outlets have seen a steep drop in audience engagement since October 2023.
www.bbc.co.uk
>> No suprises unfortunately.
UKBengali
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Unless you are in your late 60s or over, Palestine may resurrect itself in your lifetimes.
Too many people are overly pessimistic.
Reason Zio-US have almost certainly won this round is that they still have a huge amount of influence in the world but this could easily change in as little as 10 years from now.
Also sometimes you just get “lucky” and there may be an element of hesitation from both Hezbollah and Iran that has cost both dearly.
Entity still cannot massacre all the Palestinians and the majority will still reside in ghettos in Gaza and West Bank.
We should not lose hope but of course things are now going to be dire for Palestine, Hezbollah and Syria.
Too many people are overly pessimistic.
Reason Zio-US have almost certainly won this round is that they still have a huge amount of influence in the world but this could easily change in as little as 10 years from now.
Also sometimes you just get “lucky” and there may be an element of hesitation from both Hezbollah and Iran that has cost both dearly.
Entity still cannot massacre all the Palestinians and the majority will still reside in ghettos in Gaza and West Bank.
We should not lose hope but of course things are now going to be dire for Palestine, Hezbollah and Syria.
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Alter_Ego
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How Facebook restricted news in Palestinian territories
Palestinian news outlets have seen a steep drop in audience engagement since October 2023.
>> No suprises unfortunately.
Cut off facebook long time ago
Its a instrument for the imperialist zionist
Meengla
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Lebanon and Hezbollah have paid a heavy price and Iran's image and influence has also taken a big hit. None of them wanted to go to the extreme length to fully involve the (reluctant) Americans where there wouldn't be any 'victors' but certainly tens of millions would have died in the region and much destruction, while Americans could afford to pack up and go home and bury their dead.
That's why the only option was a War of Attrition in the current circumstances and I believe it was going fairly well for the Resistance until just a few weeks ago.
_Arabia_
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@Solomon2
Your newly artificial construct is basically an Arab country already if you consider 2/3 of the Israeli Jews (Arab Jews) as what they are, converted Arab Jews. Add the Palestinians within Israel and Negev Bedouins (250.000) and it becomes even more clear. Founded upon land stolen from native Arabs.
Add all the Arab food that you have "stolen" (rebranded as Israeli), the music, architecture, language (Hebrew was revived by the Arab Jews that spoke it not the Eastern European Jews who barely were able to speak it outside of religious services) and the schizophrenic behavior becomes even more absurd and complete.
Hilarious if it was not tragicomical.
You are basically at war with yourself. Peace will never occur unless and until you recognize this very basic fact and come to terms with all the contradictions of Israel. No other way. Only then will you be reintegrated into the region and only then will there be genuine Arab-Jewish cooperation once again.
BTW some Arab Jews (Israelis) have come to terms with those unmistaken facts and have turned from ferment Zionists into the opposite.
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The only wrong thing about that video above is the claim of Mizrahi/Arab Jews making up 45% of the Israeli Jewish population. In fact 2/3 of the Jewish Israeli population is made up by Israeli Arab Jews/Mizrahi or partial Arab Jews/Mizrahi. In other words the majority. Which makes it even worse.
@Meengla I am not sure if you are familiar with Alon Mizrahi but he is a really interesting guy. I have had long discussions with him on social media and learned a lot about Israeli society from him.
Your newly artificial construct is basically an Arab country already if you consider 2/3 of the Israeli Jews (Arab Jews) as what they are, converted Arab Jews. Add the Palestinians within Israel and Negev Bedouins (250.000) and it becomes even more clear. Founded upon land stolen from native Arabs.
Add all the Arab food that you have "stolen" (rebranded as Israeli), the music, architecture, language (Hebrew was revived by the Arab Jews that spoke it not the Eastern European Jews who barely were able to speak it outside of religious services) and the schizophrenic behavior becomes even more absurd and complete.
Hilarious if it was not tragicomical.
You are basically at war with yourself. Peace will never occur unless and until you recognize this very basic fact and come to terms with all the contradictions of Israel. No other way. Only then will you be reintegrated into the region and only then will there be genuine Arab-Jewish cooperation once again.
BTW some Arab Jews (Israelis) have come to terms with those unmistaken facts and have turned from ferment Zionists into the opposite.
x.com
x.com
The only wrong thing about that video above is the claim of Mizrahi/Arab Jews making up 45% of the Israeli Jewish population. In fact 2/3 of the Jewish Israeli population is made up by Israeli Arab Jews/Mizrahi or partial Arab Jews/Mizrahi. In other words the majority. Which makes it even worse.
@Meengla I am not sure if you are familiar with Alon Mizrahi but he is a really interesting guy. I have had long discussions with him on social media and learned a lot about Israeli society from him.
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