Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present

[Unknowntruth]

So please clarify this for me: Blaming Iran for what it is doing is NOT okay, but blaming USA for what it is doing is indeed okay? But then you say that "everyone has a role in what's happening" and this must also include Iran as well as USA, like other countries.

Some consistency is needed here, it seems to me.

No, you were trying to say that other Muslim countries do not want to get involved because of Iranian influence. I disagreed because this has been happening long before Iran got involved. You trying to pin it on Iran and not those countries own cowardice from the beginning. Merely trying to save face and deflect blame from said countries. What stopped those countries from doing anything before Iran got involved in a very minimal way?

Iran is not helping Israel commit genocide, is it?

What blame does Iran have? Trying to help Palestinians under occupation and oppression? I don’t think that’s a bad thing.

The only consistent thing is you twisting and turning typing words while providing no substance.

 

[VCheng]

No, you were trying to say that other Muslim countries do not want to get involved because of Iranian influence. I disagreed because this has been happening long before Iran got involved. You trying to pin it on Iran and not those countries own cowardice from the beginning.

Iran is not helping Israel commit genocide, is it?

Geopolitically speaking, Iran is helping one party to this conflict. USA is supporting the other party to the conflict. Other regional countries do not seem to be doing much for either side at the moment, in keeping with what you have said above, "every country is entitled to do what’s best for them".

 

[Unknowntruth]

Geopolitically speaking, Iran is helping one party to this conflict. USA is supporting the other party to the conflict. Other regional countries do not seem to be doing much for either side at the moment, in keeping with what you have said above, "every country is entitled to do what’s best for them".

It’s not a conflict, it’s a genocide and ethnic cleansing that has been happening for over 70 years.

So you find it acceptable to support ethnic cleansing on a defenseless group of people. Don’t you see a problem with these countries speaking of human rights and democracy while they deny that to millions of Palestinians?

You are NOT entitled to commit genocide and ethnic cleansing if you believe it is in your interest. If that is acceptable to you, I don’t know what to tell you. This mindset is why we still live in the dark ages.

 

[VCheng]

It’s not a conflict, it’s a genocide and ethnic cleansing that has been happening for over 70 years.

So you find it acceptable to support ethnic cleansing on a defenseless group of people. Don’t you see a problem with these countries speaking of human rights and democracy while they deny that to millions of Palestinians?

You are NOT entitled to commit genocide and ethnic cleansing if you believe it is in your interest. If that is acceptable to you, I don’t know what to tell you.

Now you are making false accusations. I have not supported genocide anywhere.

Apparently, you find it acceptable to judge one side of the conflict very differently than the other side according to your own personal views, not according to international geopolitics.

That is the only difference between our points of view.

(And please, before you say again that it is not a conflict, please check the thread title.)

 

[Unknowntruth]

Now you are making false accusations. I have not supported genocide anywhere.

Apparently, you find it acceptable to judge one side of the conflict very differently than the other side according to your own personal views, not according to international geopolitics.

That is the only difference between our points of view.

(And please, before you say again that it is not a conflict, please check the thread title.)

It is not merely just a conflict.

One side is committing genocide and ethnic cleansing which time and time again you seem like to ignore. This is not just politics, it’s a crime against humanity.

So I can’t judge people who are murdering women and children?

What kind of foolishness is this?

 

[VCheng]

It is not merely just a conflict.

One side is committing genocide and ethnic cleansing which time and time again you seem like to ignore. This is not just politics, it’s a crime against humanity.

So I can’t judge people who are murdering women and children?

What kind of foolishness is this?

Of course you are entitled to judge this conflict any way you like. I just wanted to be sure of your views. Thank you for clarifying them.

Obviously, you do not wish to actually apply the rules of international geoplitics equally to all sides, despite saying that, and that is okay by me too. Emotions and logic quite often do not mix well, and that is just human nature.

Please carry on as you wish.

 

[Sultan Baybars]

Turkey hosts senior Hamas officials, condemns Israeli operations in Gaza

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Hamas wants Turkey as broker.

 

[Unknowntruth]

Of course you are entitled to judge this conflict any way you like. I just wanted to be sure of your views. Thank you for clarifying them.

Obviously, you do not wish to actually apply the rules of international geoplitics equally to all sides, despite saying that, and that is okay by me too. Emotions and logic quite often do not mix well, and that is just human nature.

Please carry on as you wish.

I hope they pay you well for selling your soul.

Carry on.

 

[Unknowntruth]

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[Khansaheeb]

Pope felt the suffering of the Palestinian people and called Palestinian church every day:

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Nazi to the end, bred to hate

 

[lightning f57]

Nazi to the end, bred to hate

Nazis need to be put down when they become rabid dogs. Thats what needs to happen with the aparthied state. The direction its going will likely be a self implosion.

 

[Developereo]

Even if you read the Israeli press itself, they see Europe as lost, as being too 'blackmailed' by the Muslims in Europe and that Europe is anti-Semitic.

I wouldn't put too much stock in that. The Zionist bar for obedience is very high. If someone falls to 90% they will raise the emergency alarms to bring them back to 99%. European media, finance and government is solidly in Zionist control, like in the US.

Except for a handful of Muslims in politics and media, the vast majority of Muslims in Europe are on the lower socioeconomic rungs, living in ghettos and haven't progressed much beyond ethnic small businesses.

German children still spend their whole life apologizing for the Holocaust. For every anti-Israel word salad that Macron says, his government enacts strong anti-Muslim laws and actions. The UK is the same.

In short, any long term Israel's hold over America is not assured at all.

As I mentioned, American media, finance and politics is under Zionist control. Trump is proving that fundamental American freedoms are not worth the paper they were written on when all branches of the government are under the Zionist thumb. Anybody who doesn't like it is welcome to move to Canada, Europe, or elsewhere.