Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

Israel only care their own territory.

You request Israel to count arab Palestine in gaza and WB mean you request Israel to take over gaza and WB.

Arab population already exceed Israel population now, but still you can't defeat Israel.

You need not worry then Anton...! Why your belly aches for the zion?

Them good, right!

Move along, Next!

 

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Hamas mortar attacks against occupying IDF terrorists in the Netzarim axis, killing 2 IDF terrorists

 

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Israel only care their own territory.

You request Israel to count arab Palestine in gaza and WB mean you request Israel to take over gaza and WB.

Arab population already exceed Israel population now, but still you can't defeat Israel.

Stop lying... Take these dirty Kazars back to EuroTrash land

 

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exposing double standards

 

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exposing double standards

Excellent post....

@Antonius123

 

[UKBengali]

"Statehood " is a fickle concept anyway.

Most Muslims will be happy with the eradication of their states and the return of the caliphate empire, with free movement between the lands.

Remember many states were purposefully created by the British in order to divide and rule. Problematic borders were purposefully conceived.

We all yearn for the return of the caliphate. Good old times.

He is Greek and so won't understand the Muslim mindset.

 

[VCheng]

But...
It will never happen.

You said it. Therefore, not something conducive to any discussion.

Now let us talk about what is realistically possible in this situation, if you care to do so.

 

[UKBengali]

It's a process, just like it was against the crusaders

Slow and gradual until we defeat the enemy, today Israel is just a state of evil, a state of demons and it will be constantly hounded now in every international forum,

It will not survive this, no state can exist in a region where it is hated and despised

It took 200 years to finally defeat the Crusaders and get Palestine and neighbouring regions back.

This entity has been around for 76 years and won't make it to 100 before the Muslims destroy it like they did with the "Crusader States".

Payback is going to be a bitch for these settlers. The smart ones would have fled way before the time comes for the destruction of the entity.

 

[mulj]

In shadow of Gaza plight, last remnants of hope that west bank will be out of claws by jew settlers is diminishing in real time.
There is no other option then armed resistance and it is so painfully obvious.

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[VCheng]

Dude it was a Muslim region

What about before Islam? Judaism predates both Islam and Christianity, if we allow that logic as you present. And even since Islam, the rule was not continuous. Hence, merely claiming a presence for 1500 years is no justification for eternal rights to a land to any particular people. (Before the Mughals rules India, it was the Hindus. And so on across the globe throughout history.)

The point here is that countries come and go and change all the time. There is nothing magically eternal about this region as well, just like any other. It is all God's Earth equally, and humans, with all their God-given imperfections, change it for better and worse continuously, as we can see in the present conflict too.

Given that, where do we all go from here?

 

[hussain0216]

What about before Islam? Judaism predates both Islam and Christianity, if we allow that logic as you present. And even since Islam, the rule was not continuous. Hence, merely claiming a presence for 1500 years is no justification for eternal rights to a land to any particular people. (Before the Mughals rules India, it was the Hindus. And so on across the globe throughout history.)

The point here is that countries come and go and change all the time. There is nothing magically eternal about this region as well, just like any other. It is all God's Earth equally, and humans, with all their God-given imperfections, change it for better and worse continuously, as we can see in the present conflict too.

Given that, where do we all go from here?

Do others care what we feel?????

So why the hell should we care about others?

Rational debate is over, a tipping point has been reached where we have to defend our population against colonialism and respond to injustice with injustice

 

[UKBengali]

What about before Islam? Judaism predates both Islam and Christianity, if we allow that logic as you present. And even since Islam, the rule was not continuous. Hence, merely claiming a presence for 1500 years is no justification for eternal rights to a land to any particular people. (Before the Mughals rules India, it was the Hindus. And so on across the globe throughout history.)

The point here is that countries come and go and change all the time. There is nothing magically eternal about this region as well, just like any other. It is all God's Earth equally, and humans, with all their God-given imperfections, change it for better and worse continuously, as we can see in the present conflict too.

Given that, where do we all go from here?

You really do not get it do you?


1. Religion is not as strong a justification as genetics for inheritance of land anywhere in the world or throughour history. Palestinian DNA is far more closely related to ancient Israelites than present day Jews.


2. UN had no right to create a settler colonial state in Palestine. That is the whole basis of the UN which is to give rights to all the people's of the world. Creating this entity was actually against its founding charter and that is why a lot of states were against it but were bribed or coerced to vote for it in the general assembly.


If the entity was created in vast empty lands in the Americas that was anyway cleared of its native Indian populations through genocide then no one would have a problem. Fundamental problem is the location of the entity and not its existence per se.

 

[VCheng]

Rational debate is over, a tipping point has been reached where we have to defend our population against colonialism and respond to injustice with injustice

Okay then, so noted. Please go ahead in doing whatever you feel is necessary.

Palestinian DNA is far more closely related to ancient Israelites than present day Jews.

Any reference for that claim? Are we going to establish eternal rights to a land on the basis of DNA similarities?

UN had no right to create a settler colonial state in Palestine.

Clearly, it did have the right, and it did create it. That is recorded history. After all, you want the same UN to declare and recognize a Palestinian state as well.

The irony of questioning UN's authority when you do not like it, but wanting it when it suits your view is obviously lost on you here. I will not go into the hypocrisy to hysterical proclamations of Israel being accused of war crimes but ignoring the same UN report also accusing the other side of war crimes again here.

 

[Falcon29]

Reports of famine in pockets of northern Gaza besieged by Israeli forces:
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A painful message from a journalist in northern Gaza:

The situation has become more dangerous than you can imagine
Hunger is killing the people of northern Gaza. Israel wants to kill everyone.

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[UKBengali]

Clearly, it did have the right, and it did create it. That is recorded history. After all, you want the same UN to declare and recognize a Palestinian state as well.

The irony of questioning UN's authority when you do not like it, but wanting it when it suits your view is obviously lost on you here. I will not go into the hypocrisy to hysterical proclamations of Israel being accused of war crimes but ignoring the same UN report also accusing the other side of war crimes again here.

That goes again its charter dude.

Just because it recognised it(due to threats and bribery by powerful states on weaker ones) does not make it legimatimate as per UN charter. UN charter specifically calls for self-determination for natives and that does not include settlers brought in by a colonial power.