Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present

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r3alist said:
Looks like blood libel? Take that up with the Europeans.

Plenty of attributable comments demanding blood of arabs, go ahead deny it.
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Deny what?

I am asking for any kind of attribution to that particular video - not denying or affirming other comments.
 
r3alist said:
The recent attributable demand for death and Arab blood, go look in that direction, you can tell us what that sounds like.
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Member @RescueRanger posted a certain video, and I am asking him for confirmation of its authenticity, since he is known not to post rubbish sources.
 
Truth said:
Well you can mark - check - on the " biggest shithole in the world ".

Of course they can build that - as well as enjoy lack of minimum human rights , dictatorship , no right to vote , discrimination of woman , etc , etc. And all the rest of the niceties that come along with such regimes - some micture of taliban religous fanticism with a tuch of North Korea human rights , would be the like;y out come.

But that really is as you said. " their business "

It becomes our business when they rape , mutilate and murder 1200 of our people and kidnap 230 of them.



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Nope let us state what the "rules based order" says about the Hamas attack on October 7th.

1. As occupied people the Gazans have every right to resist occupation by violent means. Just because you Zionists were not physically in Gaza that does not mean the UN did not consider the strip to be occuppied.

2. Hamas carried out a well-planned and executed military assault on the military bases(including armed Kibbutz) that was helping keep Gaza the largest open air prison on the world.

3. Out of those 1200, over 400 were military combatants that were beaten and elimited by Hamas in a stand-up fight. They were not "murdered" and died in combat against the resistance.

4. Now the rest included a large number of civilians but a lot of those were killed by you Zionists firing with attack helicopters and tanks into the mayhem. There are eye witnesses on your Zionist TV that confirms this.

Yes some Hamas units may have gone rogue and committed some crimes against civilians but that was not the agenda of the resistance attack on October the 7th. You Zionists have and are committing far more war crimes than Hamas ever did on that day.

Now that you cannot beat Hamas in a stand up fight with your pathetic and cowardly "army" you resort to killing women and children. Says it all about what kind of people you are.

Have you ever asked yourself that whichever country you Jews live in, the locals all have one thing in common- they end up hating you so much that they either expel you or try to kill you all?
Maybe you are the problem and not everyone else.
 
Antonius123 said:
I am asking what UN/world should do in order that Palestine can get back the land they claim from jordan river to sea, not what Israel should do.

Besides, your request only aiming to Israel will be interpreted as pure hypocrisy as hamas is doing the same if not worse.
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Have I justified Hamas actions?
They are a resistance force - you on the other hand are an occupier of land gainsd by illegal means.
Killing and murdering 30,000 innocent Palestinians is a crime worse than any type of genocide in my life. You are actually
Trying to justify this - I credible
But good to put your views on here so all can see the views of Zionists -
Excellent effort
 
Why should we excuse ourself for wanting an end to the state of Israel.

We certainly dismantled USSR with no qualms about that. We want North Korea dismantled, and no one cries. The US dismantled Libyan state, Iraqi Bathist state.

If those countries deserved to be dismantled the Israel deserves it 10 times more.
 
Truth said:
Some would deny the truth even if you place it before their eyes.

The sad thing , is that Palestinains could have had a country long ago , if it was not for Hamas.
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and what about netanyahoo boasting that he prevented founding of a Palestinian country
 
Musings said:
On Saturday, Israeli military spokesman Daniel Hagari claimed in a press conference that Israel had killed a “terrorist” who had prevented 1,000 civilians from escaping the Shifa Hospital.

The allegations made little sense. Even by the standards of Israeli propaganda, falsifying such a piece of information while providing no context and no evidence, further contributes to the deteriorating credibility of Israel in international media and image worldwide.

Just one day earlier, an unnamed US official was cited by CNN as saying, in a diplomatic cable, “we are losing badly on the messaging battlespace”.

The diplomat was referring to American reputation in the Middle East – in fact, worldwide – which now lies in tatters due to blind American support for Israel.

Roles reversed ​

This credibility deficit can be witnessed in Israel itself. Not only is Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu losing credibility among Israelis, according to various public opinion polls, but the entire Israeli political establishment seems to be losing the trust of ordinary Israelis as well.

A common joke among Palestinians these days is that Israeli leaders are emulating Arab leaders in previous Arab-Israeli wars, in terms of language, phony victories and unsubstantiated gains on the military front.

For example, while Israel was quickly pushingArab militaries back on all fronts in June 1967, with full US-Western backing, of course, the leadership of Arab armies were declaring through radio that they had arrived at the ‘gates of Tel Aviv’.

Fortunes seem to have been reversed. Abu Obaida and Abu Hamza, military spokesmen for the Al-Qassam Brigades and the Al-Quds Brigades respectively, provide very careful accounts of the nature of the battle and the losses of advancing Israeli military forces in their regular, much-anticipated statements.

READ: Anyone who supports Hamas should be eliminated

The Israeli military, on the other hand, speaks of impending victories, killing of unnamed ‘terrorists’ and destruction of countless tunnels, while rarely providing any evidence. The only ‘evidence’ provided is the intentional targeting of hospitals, schools and civilian homes.

And, while Abu Obaida’s statements are almost always followed by well-produced videos, documenting the systematic destruction of Israeli tanks, no such documentation substantiates Israeli military claims.

Beyond the battlefield ​

But the issue of Israeli credibility, or rather, the lack of credibility, is not only taking place on the battlefield.

From the first day of the war, Palestinian doctors, civil defence workers, journalists, bloggers and even ordinary people filmed or recorded every Israeli war crime anywhere in the besieged Strip. And, despite the continuous shutting down of the internet and electricity in Gaza by the Israeli military, somehow, Palestinians kept track of every aspect of the ongoing Israeli genocide.

The precision of the Palestinian narrative even forced US officials, who initially doubtedPalestinian numbers, to finally admit that Palestinians were telling the truth, after all.

Barbara Leaf, assistant Secretary of State for Near Eastern Affairs, told a US House panel on 9 November that those killed by Israel in the war are likely “higher than is being cited.”

Indeed, every day, Israel loses credibility to the point that the initial Israeli lies of what had taken place on 7 October, eventually proved disastrous to Israel’s overall image and credibility on the international stage.

Rape, Daesh and Mein Kampf​

In the euphoria of demonising the Palestinian resistance – as a way to justify Israel’s forthcoming genocide in Gaza – the Israeli government and military, then journalists and even ordinary people, were all recruited in an unprecedented hasbara campaign aimed at painting Palestinians as “human animals” – per the words of Israeli Defence Minister Yoav Gallant.

Within hours of the events and, before any investigation was conducted, Netanyahu spoke of “decapitated babies”, supposedly mutilated at the hands of the resistance; Gallant claimed that “young girls were raped violently”; even former military chief rabbi, Israel Weiss, said he had “seen a pregnant woman with her belly torn open and the baby cut out.”

Even the supposedly ‘moderate’ Israeli President Isaac Herzog made ludicrous statements on the BBC on 12 November. When asked about Israeli air strikes on Gaza, Herzogclaimed that the book Mein Kampf, written by Adolf Hitler in 1925, was found “in a children’s living room” in northern Gaza.

And, of course, there were the repeatedreferences to the Daesh flags that, for some reason, were carried by Hamas fighters as they entered southern Israel on 7 October, among other fairy tales.

The fact that Daesh is a sworn enemy of Hamas and that the Palestinian movement has done everything in its power to eradicate any possibility for Daesh to extend its roots in the besieged Gaza Strip seemed irrelevant to Israel’s unhinged propaganda.

Expectedly, Israeli, US and European mediarepeated the claim of the Hamas-Daesh connection, with no rational discussion or the minimally-required fact-checking.

READ: Israel likens Hamas to Daesh to justify its crimes

But, with time, Israeli lies were no longer able to withstand the pressure of the truth emanating from Gaza, documenting every atrocity and every battle and obfuscating any drummed-up Israeli allegations.

Perhaps, the turning point of the relentless series of Israeli lies was the attack on the Al-Ahli Baptist Hospital in Gaza City on 17 October. Though many adopted, and still, sadly, defend the Israeli lie – that a resistance rocket fell on the hospital – the sheer bloodiness of that massacre, which killed hundreds, was, for many, a wake-up call.

One of the many questions that arose following the Baptist Hospital massacre is: If Israel was, indeed, honest about its version of events regarding what took place at the hospital, why did it bomb every other hospital in Gaza and continues to do so for weeks?


Israeli Hasbara cancelled ​

There are reasons why Israeli propaganda is no longer able to effectively influence public opinion even though mainstream media continues to side with Israel, even when the latter is committing a genocide.

Firstly, Palestinians and their supporters have managed to ‘cancel’ Israel using social media which, for the first time, overwhelmed the organised propaganda campaigns often engineered on behalf of Israel in corporate media.

An analysis of online content on popular social media platforms was conducted by the Israeli influencer marketing platform, Humanz. The study, published in November, admitted that “while 7.39 billion posts with pro-Israeli tags were published on Instagram and TikTok last month, in the same period 109.61 billion posts with pro-Palestinian tags were published on the platforms.” This, according to the company, means that pro-Palestinian views are 15 times more popular than pro-Israeli views.

Secondly, independent media, Palestinian and others, offered alternatives to those seeking a different version of events to what is taking place in Gaza.

A single Palestinian freelance journalist in Gaza, Motaz Azaiza, has managed to acquiremore than 14 million followers on Instagram over the course of a single month because of his reporting from the ground.

Thirdly, the ‘surprise attack’ of 7 October has deprived Israel of the initiative, not only regarding the war itself, but also the justification for the war. Indeed, their genocidal war on Gaza has no specific objectives, but also has no precise media campaign to defend or rationalise these unspecified objectives. Therefore, the Israeli media narrative appears disconnected, haphazard and, at times, even self-damaging.

READ: EU Foreign Policy chief Borrell makes proposals for post-war Gaza

And, finally, the sheer brutality of the Israeli genocide in Gaza. If one is to juxtapose Israeli media lies with the horrific Israeli crimes committed in Gaza, one would find no plausible logic that could convincingly justify mass murder, displacement, starvation and genocide of a defenseless population.

Never has Israeli propaganda failed so astoundingly and never has the mainstream media failed to shield Israel from the global anger – in fact, seething hatred – for Israel’s ugly apartheid regime. The repercussions of all of this will most certainly impact the way that history will remember the Israeli war on Gaza, which has, so far, killed, and wounded tens of thousands of innocent civilians.

A whole generation, if not more, has already built a perception of Israel as a genocidal regime and no number of future lies, Hollywood movies or Maxim Magazinespreads will ever lessen that in any way.

More importantly, this new perception is likely to compel people, not only to re-examine their views of Israel’s present and future, but of the past as well – the very foundation of the Zionist regime, itself predicated on nothing but lies.


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Very well written article.
 
Truth said:
Had you noticed , it was not me that brought this topic into this thread.

Had people here not been denying it ( some making disgusting comments I would not repeat ) there would be no need to discuss it or go into disturbing details.

It is not just Israel media reporting it , but other main stream media ( sorry if this is not the usual , shallow , one line , anonymous tweets you are used to ) as well , News reporters that are not always in favour of us.

Do read and come back to us :


Israel Gaza: Hamas raped and mutilated women on 7 October , BBC​


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Israel Gaza: Hamas raped and mutilated women on 7 October, BBC hears

The BBC has seen and heard evidence that Hamas fighters committed horrific sexual violence in Israel.
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The Rape of the Israeli Women​

Hamas’s crimes on Oct. 7 were deliberate and systematic. Why has the left been disbelieving, silent or equivocal?​


www.wsj.com

Opinion | The Rape of the Israeli Women

Hamas’s crimes on Oct. 7 were deliberate and systematic. Why has the left been disbelieving, silent or equivocal?
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Attackers laughed as they raped and murdered a woman in Israel on October 7​




‘Screams Without Words’: How Hamas Weaponized Sexual Violence on Oct. 7​

A Times investigation uncovered new details showing a pattern of rape, mutilation and extreme brutality against women in the attacks on Israel.

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‘Screams Without Words’: How Hamas Weaponized Sexual Violence on Oct. 7

A Times investigation uncovered new details showing a pattern of rape, mutilation and extreme brutality against women in the attacks on Israel.
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Whatever your view of the Israel-Hamas war, rape is rape. To trivialise it is to diminish ourselves​



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Whatever your view of the Israel-Hamas war, rape is rape. To trivialise it is to diminish ourselves | Gaby Hinsliff

This isn’t some ghoulish competition, where any empathy shown to dead Israelis leaves less available for Palestinians, says Guardian columnist Gaby Hinsliff
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UN commission to investigate Hamas sexual violence, appeal for evidence | The Jerusalem Post

Israeli authorities have already opened their own investigation into sexual violence during the most deadly attack on Israel in its history, including rape, after evidence emerged.
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However, a major challenge for Pillay is that Israel has not cooperated with the commission, which it says has an anti-Israel bias. The commission could struggle to gather sufficient evidence to support future charges if access is not granted.

Hamas has denied the abuses and was not available for comment. Israel's diplomatic mission in Geneva said on Thursday the commission had "pre-existing biased prejudices against Israel".
 
Truth said:
Zero evidence in your article.

Denying this crime simply makes it worse.

Evidence mounts of sexual crimes perpetrated by Hamas during Oct. 7 attack on Israel​


Two months after the October 7 Hamas attack on Israel, evidence is mounting of the sexual violence perpetrated by Hamas that day. Prosecutors have little doubt that women were raped, tortured and some of their dead bodies mutilated. Israeli police, who opened a probe in mid-November, say they have gathered more than 1,500 testimonies from witnesses and first responders. Hamas denies the allegations. Meanwhile, there has been fierce criticism from women's rights groups in Israel over the UN not moving faster to begin investigating. Our team in Israel reports. Warning: Viewers may find some of the footage in this report disturbing.

www.france24.com

Focus - Evidence mounts of sexual crimes perpetrated by Hamas during Oct. 7 attack on Israel

Two months after the October 7 Hamas attack on Israel, evidence is mounting of the sexual violence perpetrated by Hamas that day. Prosecutors have little doubt that women were raped, tortured and some…
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interestingly none from the victim themselves and previously they offered videos and photos from some incident last year in japan
 
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Unknowntruth said:
I definitely disagree with this. I would like to take the time and thank everyone who is speaking out against Israel and their genocide. Anything you do as small as educating people on the genocide that is taking place is significant. We need more people to speak out, protest, educate, support, donate, etc Millions of people everyday speaking out makes a big difference. This is how you destroy their narrative and media manipulation.

I love all you guys and I thank everyone from the bottom of my heart. We only lose is if we stop speaking out and let evil win.
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Are you Palestinian brother?
 
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