Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present

[Meengla]

What do you think will happen if Iranians cross their Red Lines I.e hitting these bases?
There is some reason why nobody in region dares to run-over those bases despite hating the US from the core of their hearts .
And about Israel,I think they will respond but that response will be very calibrated since Israeli focus is HZ now.Though i have gut feeling that Mossad is thinking something really nasty about regime in Tehran.
Israel is not the US that can fight at so many fronts at a time.

There is a reason Iraqis, who just killed some Israelis as I posted above, are not targeting the Americans who are much more close and vulnerable. The losses to Iran will be catastrophic but the losses to any American Presidency when thousands (yes!) of casualties arrive in America would also be suicidal. The Biden administration already got chewed out over the loss of the 13 Marines in Kabul in August 2021. In short, destroying Iran at the expense of the American human and material assets is too high a price to pay. Iran is like the North Korea of the Middle East: American can surely put North Korea to the Stone Age but the cost would be too high.
But you maybe right: Israelis would do a calibrated response. They will have to do something but I doubt the Americans are going to like anything which would provoke an all out war between America and Iran. But then Netanyahu rules America. Multiple analysts in America have been saying that the Pentagon and the State Dept are trying to stop Netanyahu from further escalation but it is President Biden who is unwilling to exercise the real power.

 

[Mehdipersian]

Irans attack wasn't meant to cause death and destruction, they should have used warheads with bomblets to scatter and shower their target areas as most BMs wont be pin point accurate but their attack within a vicinity can be dangerous.

What the attack proved is US, Israeli ABMs are useless when conducting a saturated attack with very fast moving missiles. We got an idea of this in April now we get a confirmation.

If Israel does something silly by attacking Iranian infrastructure you will get to see the entire airbase, mossad HQ leveled. But alas there will be more excuses made up how even that is not enough.

 

[MS Sandhu]

I think you have been totally missing the Iranian strategy, friend: There is no denial in anyone's mind that Iran not only targeted only the military installations but also gave a warning to Israel through America to go into shelters. The 'message' of the potentially much more destructive strike next time.
The message was not only delivered but also, as of now, 'registered'.
But you are right: Air Force is important which not just Lebanon, Syria lack but Iran is also far behind. The Iranian aircrafts and air defense systems pale in front of even a middling power like Pakistan unless Russians added some air defenses to Iran recently.
But here is one memorable term I learned from a recent You Tube video comment: "Quantity is quality!".

I do not think the message was really registered since Israel again killed an Iranian in Syria.
And seems like this trend will continue.
And I may not know the strategy but what i see is that some huge ballistic missiles landed on an air base and that thing is still fine & running.

 

[Mehdipersian]

See the effect of 50+ Ballistic Missiles fired by Iran
Just some random holes here and there
The level of destruction you are talking about can only be achieved by extensive targeted bombing Compaign against the enemy

Iranians can not do that.The more i see this conflict,the more I am inclined to think that Air Force is an absolute necessity for modern wars.

Random holes?!
Lol

 

[MS Sandhu]

There is a reason Iraqis, who just killed some Israelis as I posted above, are not targeting the Americans who are much more close and vulnerable. The losses to Iran will be catastrophic but the losses to any American Presidency when thousands (yes!) of casualties arrive in America would also be suicidal. The Biden administration already got chewed out over the loss of the 13 Marines in Kabul in August 2021. In short, destroying Iran at the expense of the American human and material assets is too high a price to pay. Iran is like the North Korea of the Middle East: American can surely put North Korea to the Stone Age but the cost would be too high.
But you maybe right: Israelis would do a calibrated response. They will have to do something but I doubt the Americans are going to like anything which would provoke an all out war between America and Iran. But then Netanyahu rules America. Multiple analysts in America have been saying that the Pentagon and the State Dept are trying to stop Netanyahu from further escalation but it is President Biden who is unwilling to exercise the real power.

American politicians always find some excuse for public consumption to launch their compaign

 

[Khansaheeb]

Maybe, maybe not. But as I mentioned to you months ago: The US bases in Syria and Iraq and even in Persian Gulf/Red Sea are 'sitting ducks'. They are the red lines for the Americans but when it would come to an all out war, anything is possible. Anything!! Why would the Iranians keep getting hits from Israel? There comes a breaking point and the Iranians showed that two days ago as a 'message'. Why hasn't Israel responded to an attack on its heartland?

israel will, it's planning with its allies right at this moment. Islamic world's defensive attacks are a strategic mistake, they need to take the war to Israel.

 

[Khansaheeb]

See the effect of 50+ Ballistic Missiles fired by Iran
Just some random holes here and there
The level of destruction you are talking about can only be achieved by extensive targeted bombing Compaign against the enemy

Iranians can not do that.The more i see this conflict,the more I am inclined to think that Air Force is an absolute necessity for modern wars.

From that distance it is quite an achievement. I would give a suggestion to improve the targetting but then the enemies would use it.

 

[Dalit]

If you want to bury your head in sand that’s your problem not mine.

40 total impacts out of 200 fired is an 80% interception rate for Israel with some help from the USN.

And the majority that hit Nevatim hit dirt or runways(that can be repaired in hours). I see about a half dozen or so hits on infrastructure . The rest are misses.

Overall, this attack was a failure. Caused a minimal amount of damage to infrastructure and no real effect on Israeli military operations.

I have never seen this @F-22Raptor in such a quandary. This guy is hurt. I mean hurt so badly after the Iranian missile barrage. His 24/7 useless rants expose his pain.

What a delicious experience.

 

[Beast89]

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[Strider]

But then Netanyahu rules America. Multiple analysts in America have been saying that the Pentagon and the State Dept are trying to stop Netanyahu from further escalation but it is President Biden who is unwilling to exercise the real power.

This guy is the most spineless POTUS ever. I just can't believe it.

I do not think the message was really registered since Israel again killed an Iranian in Syria.
And seems like this trend will continue.
And I may not know the strategy but what i see is that some huge ballistic missiles landed on an air base and that thing is still fine & running.

Some sources said that the prior missile attack was choreographed. This recent missile attack was more destructive than the last. Perhaps the next one would hit harder. It is like escalation after escalation.

 

[SiliconBit (silicon0000)]

I have never seen this @F-22Raptor in such a quandary. This guy is hurt. I mean hurt so badly after the Iranian missile barrage. His 24/7 useless rants expose his pain.

What a delicious experience.

It's unclear which is more damaging: the destruction of Israel's image of invincibility or the destruction of the American air defense system's image of invincibility.

 

[Dalit]

It's unclear which is more damaging: the destruction of Israel's image of invincibility or the destruction of the American air defense system's image of invincibility.

Epic.

 

[Meengla]

American politicians always find some excuse for public consumption to launch their compaign

I am a bit surprised why no one brings this very interesting angle in this thread: The Netanyahu desire for a Trump victory. The idea is to engineer a Middle East war with multiple purposes: Take out the Iranian threat as much as possible using the Americans so that the next American Presidency would 'inherit' a full-fledged war regardless of who would be the President. Another purpose is that even if no full-fledged war, heightened tensions would lead to oil price rising, leading to inflation, thus blaming the 'incompetent' Biden Presidency, leading to Trump's Presidency. There is very little margin of error for both parties in this election.
There is no question in my and several American analysts' mind: Netanyahu wants a Trump Presidency. Democrats know that and are sulking over it but they can't ignore the AIPAC money and the media. I know, I know, most here seem to think the Democrats and the Republicans are exactly the same but they are not. Had it been, then the vicious attacks on Harris in the Israeli media and the timing of Netanyahu's escalation around the US elections wouldn't have happened.

 

[925boy]

What people are not taking into account is which side has the strength to ultimately prevail. At the moment the US/NATO/Israel have the ability to absorb everything Iran can throw at them and still emerge victorious. They can rebuild Israel and carry on. Iran, on the other hand, can fire everything it has and then run out and get bombed to the stone age. Which country will then help Iran rebuild?

I want Iran to win but I expect the Anglo-Zionsts to go full retard on Iran. Only God can save Iran now. Having said that, I expect that Islam will prevail in the end, inshallah, but it will get a lot worse before it gets better.

Iran get bombed to stone age? US and NATO just dont have the logistical capability (talk less of the willpower or finances) for a large military campaign against Iran- they've already given large chunks of their ammo stocks to Ukraine and can't produce them fast enough to replenish their stocks quickly, so i will differ to say no, US does not have the logistical and manpower and equipment and political capital required to mount a large attack (that's costly and high stakes) on Iran really, but US can do a limited attack on Iran- it definitely has the capabilities.

Iran has a plan to bomb all runways of bases around it that NATO jets take off from, before the jets take off or run multiple sorties using those base runways. Iran even taunted US by saying its bases in the region are even less defended than Israeli bases(ouch).

 

[Unknowntruth]

Arabs are complicit in this genocide.

This genocide on Gaza and now on Lebanon has exposed the Arabs for the traitors they are.

Truth is, they hate Iran more than they do Israel. If these Arab traitors wanted too, they could’ve long ago stopped this genocide on Gaza. They not only turn a blind eye but also help Israel navigate the blockade imposed on them by Yemen.

Ya Arab, don’t worry when they are done with Gaza you will be next in line. On that day, you will face the harsh reality.

I was mistaken, you are not just spineless but one and the same as the colonizer entity.

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@Falcon29