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I am not two faces. There are other 'authoritarian regimes' all over the world but the toppling of Assad had everything to do with the Syrian role in the 2006 war between Hezbollah-Israel. EVERYTHING!

Both are falls, Bashar and the Opposition.

Overall it is Syrian people mistake. When we are divided, it is natural foreign power will come as well and played there.

They cannot manage the internal dispute peacefully.
 
The government also failed to protect its people, to give justice to them, security, jobs etc. Foreign agencies exploit these type of situations. Libya was like Dubai but look how they destroyed it, through Jihadis, once the jihadis were loosing the war, they prayed for Nato no fly zone, they requested the same in Syria but Russia got involved so the plan flopped. So at times the government shares responsibility but then at times it's clearly the people fault.

The people must also show some sense and responsibility for their own lives and community, if they create chaos a government can't just wave a magic wand and bring jobs and develop or investment when at the first hint of development the locals riot and protest and bomb the place.
 
We had a strong Libya, look who destroyed it? Has the situation gone better, Iraq, Yemen, Syria all destroyed through foreign sponsored wars. People are getting happy with Yemen and Iraqi rebels threatening israel but the reality is those nations are weak and divided just how it suits the zionists. Lebanon is divided, half of its Christians and half Muslims, Muslims are divided aswell. The Arabs spread anti Ottoman propaganda, helped the allies destroy them and today are suffering themselves. Even if Turkey, Iran, Pakistan send 1M army to help Lebanon/Gaza, it will be a failure but these same people will go against them after 20 years, just like Syrian army was kicked out from Lebanon, they were labelled as occupiers. So I guess your spot on, we are our worse enemies, it's all jahalat. I always say how it benefitted the Arabs for kicking Turks out, they call them evil and occupiers but the zionist showed them who is evil and occupier.

Bhai, these GCC rulers hate their own fellow Arabs also. The only people they worship are Europeans and Americans.

Can you imagine if the UAE had given construction jobs to millions of young, unemployed Arabs from Iraq, Jordan, Syria, Egypt, Libya, etc? Most of these jobs require minimal training.
 
Both are falls, Bashar and the Opposition.
Overall it is Syrian people mistake. When we are divided, it is natural foreign power will come as well and played there.
They cannot manage the internal dispute peacefully.

No, nothing is 'natural' for foreign powers coming in. Many many countries of the world have authoritarian regimes. Pakistan too has it right now. But those countries are not in the crosshairs of big powers for 'Velvet Revolutions' or 'Arab Spring' or 'Freedom and Democracy'. Syria was singled out by Israel due to the Syrian role in the 2006 Hezbollah-Israel war. Syria is the route to Lebanon. Assad had to go. And the criminal stupidity of the Turks and the GCC should not be ignored here as if those countries themselves wouldn't have brutally crushed any rebellion inside their territory. But now those countries are eating the humble pies, almost embracing Assad, after destroying Syria. Stupid leadership which destroyed a country as unwitting accomplices of the Zionists.
 
Turkey's fate was sealed with or without the few Arab tribes rebelling against them. I think it was @Unknowntruth who many months ago, described in some details what happened during WW One. This 'betrayal' narrative is a cop-out by the modern Turks and their defenders here. Turkey was going to lose and it lost. In wars, there are winners and losers. Germany was a mighty power but lost twice.
But what's more pertinent to this conflict and indeed most recent is the Turks, the GCC, the Americans working as a team to topple Assad; that was clearly going to benefit Israel and has benefited Israel. So forget the damn 100+ year old history about the so-called 'betrayal': Talk about what's now! There were many idiots in the old PDF championing the 'freedom and democracy' or the 'Arab Spring' BS coming to Syria in 2011 while some of us clearly saw toppling of Assad would benefit Israel.

The Arab rebellion did not start in WW1 but a century before that, when Arab nationalists and extremist groups were promoted in order to counter ottomans, It's important to learn from history, not ignore it and fall for the same trap everytime. We can never know if Ottomans would have lost their territory, it happened with local support who betrayed them. Facts are Facts.

I agree, today Turkey is different from that Turkey, they are allies with nato, they wanted Assad gone in order to bring in Ikhwani/Salafi government, just like in Egypt, Saudi wanted pro Iran assad gone, Israel wanted Assad gone in order to destroy threat, a threat that backs Hizbollah. People don't realise that Assad maybe Alawite but he is Arab nationalist, he doesn't promote religious nationalism but Arab nationalism. The Ikhwanis/Salafis used this angle in order to gain support for his removal, they called him kafir, Sufiani and the rest. Today Syria is divided and destroyed, it's doesn't pose any threat to Israel.
 
I am not two faces. There are other 'authoritarian regimes' all over the world but the toppling of Assad had everything to do with the Syrian role in the 2006 war between Hezbollah-Israel. EVERYTHING!

Israel and its arab allies used propaganda to turn Lebanese against Syrian troops based in Lebanon, once the Lebanese started to protest the Syrian troops left, then Israel started the plan to attack hizbollah but it failed because Syria was actively supporting hizbollah, Israel realised Hizbollah gets all its logistic support from Syria, the money, training, medical help etc, so they then finished off Assad and now hizbollah is alot weak in terms of supplies etc. Muslims are still clueless on what actually happened, they fell for the same old tricks and shot themselves in the foot.
 
No, nothing is 'natural' for foreign powers coming in. Many many countries of the world have authoritarian regimes. Pakistan too has it right now. But those countries are not in the crosshairs of big powers for 'Velvet Revolutions' or 'Arab Spring' or 'Freedom and Democracy'. Syria was singled out by Israel due to the Syrian role in the 2006 Hezbollah-Israel war. Syria is the route to Lebanon. Assad had to go. And the criminal stupidity of the Turks and the GCC should not be ignored here as if those countries themselves wouldn't have brutally crushed any rebellion inside their territory. But now those countries are eating the humble pies, almost embracing Assad, after destroying Syria. Stupid leadership which destroyed a country as unwitting accomplices of the Zionists.

Saudi Arabia supported Syrian revolution but when it came to their own nations, their Muftis issued fatwas its haram to protest against rulers lol. Today Saudi is bombing and starving yemenise.
 
Proper journalism....

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The unconditional support of Israel, no value of Muslims' life. In other word...US legitimized the holocust type incidents in the past.
 
Saudi Arabia supported Syrian revolution but when it came to their own nations, their Muftis issued fatwas its haram to protest against rulers lol. Today Saudi is bombing and starving yemenise.

Ya I think Muslims in Middle East need to follow what ASEAN declaration to make the region peacefull. We dont intervene in other country internal affairs. We did that in the past, particularly Indonesia and Vietnam, but we now focus on how to develop our own nation and let other country in region solve their own internal dispute peacefully.

Whe may help the dispute peacefully using diplomatic tools, but no military intervention or money or weapons intervention any more. It is the recipe for regional stability
 
Ya I think Muslims in Middle East need to follow what ASEAN declaration to make the region peacefull. We dont intervene in other country internal affairs. We did that in the past, particularly Indonesia and Vietnam, but we now focus on how to develop our own nation and let other country in region solve their own internal dispute peacefully.

Whe may help the dispute peacefully using diplomatic tools, but no military intervention or money or weapons intervention any more. It is the recipe for regional stability

That's not possible because certain Muslims states like to control weaker nations, to blackmail them, betray them, this is because they consider themselves to be the leaders of the ummah and this is what they sell to Usa in order to stay relevant. They control OIC, fund extremists in Muslim states then use the same extremist to threat and blackmail the weak nations. Libya was destroyed the same way, so is Syria, Yemen, now Sudan. Some nations survived like Pakistan and Egypt. Lebanon will be next, once Hizbollah is weakened, we will witness salafis waging wars on Hizbollah, the ikhwanis are quiet because they're getting battered after being used in Libya, Syria and Yemen. These are foolish people who use big islamic slogans in order to win power, they weaponise the religion for politics and power. Unfortunately Muslims fall for their tricks and end up destroying their nations, which sets them back 30 years.

All the Muslim states need to do is make a strong stance in OIC, request Saudi/UAE to allow Muslim OIC troops in Lebanon, Gaza and WestBank, all Arabs should support this move. Stop the killings of Palestinians and Lebanese, then negotiate with the zionist. Saudi Arabia and UAE should use their inside connections, we all know they're brothers behind the scene. If nothing comes good then atleast the killings will stop, if zionist attack the Muslim OIC troops then impose sanctions and boycott of Israel although this should be the first move. If we didn't have Muslim state collaborations, the project Israel would cost 10 of billions extras a year just to keep it going, they will have no trade with Egypt, Jordan, UAE, Turkey, Saudia etc. This would be expensive.
 
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Samuel Huntington in the Clash of Civilizations said something that is most relevant. He said that while all other civilizations had a central state, US for the West, China for Chinese civilization, etc, Islam had no central state. Unfortunately, that’s true, we have a hodgepodge of 50+ Muslim majority states all fighting each other. Just the Arabs are divided into 26 countries.

For most of Islamic history there was always a main state, the Caliphate, that all Muslims accepted. The Umayyads, Abbasids, Ottomans etc. Up to the fall of the Ottoman Empire and the abolishment of the Caliphate all Muslims, including in Hindustan, used to consider the Ottomans as the leaders.

Now we have today’s chaos and it’s certain that it’s not working. Enemies are attacking Muslim countries and destroying them and killing Muslims by the millions. And not just killing, they’re preventing any and all progress in Muslim countries by installing corrupt traitors in power who don’t develop their countries properly.

So, the solution is to bring back a centralized Muslim power around which all other Muslim countries gravitate. The European Union and NATO could be potential models. The prediction is that Jerusalem will the capital of the last Islamic Caliphate that will unite all Muslims. However, that’s a way off and lots of work needs to be done.
 
Hopefully the zionists lose their head and kill those Unifil troops. 10.000 bodybags from 50 different countries. What a disaster.

It would demolish the already decreased PR of 'the most moral army of the world' and push all those countries to action.
They already killed UNIFIL soldiers sometimes in incidents with suspected intentionality.

And what happened? Nothing at all.

UN secretary general has recently declared as persona non-grata in Israel.

And they dont hide that they dont want to keep UNIFIL anymore.
 
No, the post you shared contains intentional lying and deception. That video was confirmed to be 500m from the border and not Inside "Ras" as your link claims. -Also the same infamous Zionists Arab twitter account you posted goes on to say in the same tweet that southern Lebanon has fallen under Israel occupation just like Gaza, which is a total fabrication and you know it.

Also sharing another Zionist Arab Twitter post "Columbus" which is infamous for being a fabricator is also a red flag. Saying Bashar has ordered the removal Iran and all it's "militias" is huge news don't you think reputable Arab news orgs would report that?

The majority of the links you've shared here have been disinformation by Zionists accounts and openly US state department propaganda channels like "AlHadath" which is literally US owned Israeli propaganda.
There are news and there are counter news..I post links that might have some truth to them too..Last week Bashar interdicted Hezbollah from recruiting in Syria.. So the new news might be true too..He asks Iran elements(not Iran) to leave Syria because they are being targeted left and right and innocent Syrian are being killed in those bombings..so there might be truth to it..

There are no Zionist Arabs..the don't side with Israel, but the dislike Iran regime because of what they did in Iraq and Syria killing Sunnis..

Do you have any links to counter these news or just you empty opinion..???
 
Hezbollah fired a missile salvo at Kiryat Shmona, directly hitting and burning eight homes, and hitting a bus.
It was announced that two Israeli occupiers, a man and his wife, were killed on the spot, and there were a number of others injured.

Before that, he fired another round at Haifa, wounding eight others.

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Ahmed Jabareen, a young Palestinian man from Umm al-Fahm in the occupied interior, carried an ax and a knife, and went on his blue motorcycle to the occupied city of Hadera and stabbed six Israelis in four different squares inside the city while riding the bike within an entire hour. Two of them were very critical and four were serious.

The danger of these operations is not in the losses resulting from them, but rather in the extent of the fear, terror, and insecurity that the Israelis feel as a result of these operations, which have become intense and continuous in recent days, and are led by the Palestinians in the occupied territories and the West Bank. Insecurity means isolation from society, even thinking and deciding to leave.

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