Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present

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Heartbreaking to see what demonic Zionists hardliners (who would have thought that they could be worse than the likes of Sharon and the earlier demons) are currently committing of war crimes, genocide and anti-human behavior on our oppressed, brave and fighting Palestinian brethren.

To think that Jews, who lived under Arab rule for almost 2 millennia (!) from the times of Nabatea to various Arab Caliphates and to think that 2/3 of all Israeli Jews are Arab Jews in origin from Morocco to Yemen, could perpetrate and behave how they are doing is tragicomical.

Even though it was the Eastern European Jews (not the Jews of the region that later came to Israel) that perpetrated the Nabka but nevertheless, I cannot take it seriously or phantom when I see a IDF soldier that resembles an Arab from Yemen, Morocco, Egypt, Syria etc. kill their Palestinian cousins, when just 2-3 generations ago their parents, grandparents or great-grandparents were living among the very same Arabs largely in peace.

Sometimes I wonder, what the hell our ancestors thought when they (for instance the great Caliph Umar Ibn al-Khattab (ra)), after the Muslim Arab conquest of Al-Quds, welcomed back the Jews when the Romans were defeated.

I once had hope of the youth of Israel, in particular the Jews originally from the Arab world, would be different from the Eastern European implants and they would finally give Palestinians their rights, but I was wrong. Having never visited Israel or had any meaningful interactions with any Jews, maybe I was blinded by history. The current Jewish lot are clearly different from the lot that worked with our ancestors from Baghdad to Al-Andalus and even fought together against the crusaders.

Also it is shameful and painful to see the Arab inactivity (regimes - not average Arab people who are almost all pro-Palestine) considering the history of Arab dominance on Jews (just rule in comparison to the current Jewish oppression in Palestine).

However as I wrote earlier yesterday, this is due to Arab division. We are divided into 20 + countries and thus have 20 + regimes with 20 + agendas, rivalries, plans, competition and even dislike among each other. This enables outsiders that don't have the Arabs interests in mind to meddle. Having had many useless and incompetent regimes in recent times (post WW2) is not helping either.

The only solution is Arab unity. Palestine on its own cannot accomplish much. Personally I would love for there to be 1 large Arab federal state modeled on a EU/NATO model or 3-4 strong Arab regional blocs. I think that this will eventually occur and past mistakes (divisions) will be corrected. Otherwise the current mess will continue. Many Arabs don't get this simple thing, when we are divided, we suffer, when we are united, we can accomplish a lot of great things. Not just empty words, history and ground realities are my witness. But unfortunately the average Arab cannot do much nowadays, at least not until peace emerges in the likes of Libya (complete), Sudan, Yemen, Syria, Palestine and elsewhere and we get/elect leaders that represent our interests.

Also, even though it matters little in the grand scheme of things (given that Israel is on a permanent life-support of the US/WEST/NATO), recognizing Israel by any Arab country (Morocco, Sudan, Bahrain and UAE), even though the biggest fish in the neighborhood (Egypt) already did it 40 years ago, was and is wrong and sends the wrong signal. Clearly the "Abraham Accords" and all the good (in principle) talk of peace and cooperation, a Palestinian state, has not amounted to anything so far.

Also, albeit I support Hamas over the absolutely useless Fatah regime in the West Bank and the useless Mahmoud Abbas, looking at this in hindsight, the 7th October attack, had a far, far too high cost on the Palestinians in Gaza. I am afraid that it was a temporary pyrrhic victory. I think that Hamas was afraid that the Arab regimes that had not recognized Israel yet, would abandon Palestine, by signing the Abraham Accords, so they though that they had no other option and made a last-ditch attempt at gaining publicity for their cause. I don't blame them if this was the case and the thought process for the likes of Sinwar and others but I am not sure if it was a good idea. We won't ever know if the signing of the Abraham Accords by the biggest fish (KSA) would for instance have forced the Israelis to accelerate a two-state solution or if it would not have mattered, but for sure, now the hardliners in Israel have gone full-blown Nazi and I don't see what is stopping them from continuing their ethnic cleansing and God forbid, try to conquer more Arab land in Lebanon and Syria or even attempts in Jordan. Of course this is all not foreseeable for Israel as they cannot control the Palestinians fully, but with the demons ruling them now, everything is possible.

Shameful times for the Muslim and Arab world.

This might be an extreme solution but I think that Palestinians within Israel, Jordan, Palestine should come up with some clever non-violent (they have no chance militarily as of today) tactic that would force the world to reign Israel in and force them to establish a Palestinian state. Some kind of collective hunger strike, staying at home, human shield (as the ones people in the Baltics did before the USSR collapsed) or something along those lines. In other words don't give the Israelis any chance or ammunition to say that they were "attacked first" and if they react as savages as usual, the entire world will witness their behavior and no way any Western media would be able to spin it as self-defense or "Hamas out to genocide Jews" etc. nonsense.

Any crucial step (that only the 3.5 million American-Arabs can do on the ground at least) is to somehow to start dismantling the Jewish dominance in USA which would be a monumental task but if not at least attempted nothing will chance as well. Here they could ally with all the Americans in the US who are tired of Jewish disproportional dominance in the US.
If anything, the Mizrahi Jews are actually uniformly more extreme than the Ashkenazi Jews. Almost all of the Left Wing or dovish Israelis are made up of Western liberal Jews. While the Mizrahi Jews are all uniformly very fascist in their views of Arabs. I've seen them act and talk in more brain dead caveman like ways than the Ashkenazis to be honest.

Obviously when the Mizrahis co-existed and lived under Islam for over a thousand years, they were integrated with Islamic society. However after the establishment of Israel, there was a massive backlash and suspicion of the Mizrahis in Muslim countries and many were either kicked out or fled due to the circumstances. This made them very bitter against the countries they were kicked out from. In addition, when they arrived in Israel, they were thoroughly ingrained with Zionist ideology and due to their inferior social status as Mizrahis, many felt the strong psychological need to "prove themselves" or to "distance themselves from the Arabs", so they became even more hateful or anti-Arab than the White European Jews.

So don't be surprised at all when you see the most anti-Palestinian hate speech coming from an Arab looking face in Israel.

Knowing about these details about Palestinian society also allows me to see the limitations and in fact, the inaccuracies of the Palestinian liberation movement in the West in trying to paint a Western racial paradigm unto this conflict. The fact is, this is not a "White vs Brown" conflict. There are many Palestinians who can pass as White Europeans. There are many Israelis who look Arab or even African (Ethiopian and Yemeni Jews). Half the Israelis ARE NATIVE to the land. But it's the Zionist ideology that makes them fascist and merciless. But then again, nearly every country in the Middle East is filled with insane and crazy people so it's hard to say that the Israelis are the only ones.
 
My friend, 100% of all the weapons that reached Gaza/West Bank are smuggled into it by Arabs through Arab lands.
that is hilarious misinformation. in reality:

Yahya Sinwar: “If not for Iran’s support for the resistance … we would not have obtained these capabilities. Our [Arab] nation has deserted us in our difficult moments, while Iran has supported us with weapons, equipment and expertise.”

Abu Obaidah: “We thank the Islamic Republic of Iran who provided us with weapons, money and other equipment! He gave us missiles to destroy Zionist fortresses and helped us with standard anti-tank missiles!”

Khaled Mashaal: "We thank Iran for all its material, political and Islamic support and the value of these support will never be hidden from God and Palestinian people"

Ismail Haniyeh: "and I can not but thank those who brought froth money and weaponry to the valiant resistance. The Islamic Republic of Iran; who did not hold back with money, weapons and technical support. Thanks."
 
Half the Israelis ARE NATIVE to the land.


I am surprised you think this to be true.

An Arab Jew descended from Moroccan or Iraqi ancestry has zero rights to be in Palestine.

It is less than 10% who can trace continuous family lineage more than 100 years in Palestine and the true natives are around maybe 5%.
 
Anti tank weapon.
Surface to Air missiles.
Surface to ground missiles.
Dont have to be the most advanced.
Isnotreal is a tiny entity geographically.
Btw if ME nations so weak against foreign power. Why not cooperate and sign mutual defence treaty with exchange of complementary technology and weaponry?

There are only three potent Muslim countries: Iran, Turkey and Pakistan and none of them share borders with Israel and its' not a coincidence that those three countries were allowed to become that powerful. The GCC Arabs are pansy a$$. The Iraqis, even under Saddam, and the Egyptians are C-grade militaries.
And, please, let's stop with this 'we should do this, we should do that' , 'we should be united'. Those are good words but they don't work in the real world. Even the Arab Street was relatively silent given what happened in Gaza. People have lives to live and rulers have rules to prolong and no wants to fight America head-on; even the Russians have taken huge casualties because of American support to Ukraine, but are licking their wounds slowly advancing in Ukraine while still maintaining relations with America and even doing trade! The Chinese were stopped from directly supplying to Russia and hence North Korea is being used as desperate measures to support against Ukraine. And the mighty China did almost nothing materially much for the Gazans. And here people were playing up China as something great counter to America. Hah! No boycott movements, no bad 'image' was going to work to control Israel: Only a prolonged War of Attrition would have worked, and had worked until now.

It is a victory for Israel. This guy doesn't lie.

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3 IDF terrorists liquidated in Jabalia (north Gaza), including squad commander, and 12 more IDF terrorists injured (2 seriously)

Three Israeli terrorists were killed and 12 others were wounded during fighting in the northern Gaza Strip earlier today, the occupation announces.

The slain terrorists include a squad commander in the Givati Brigade's Shaked Battalion.

In the same incident, 12 more Zionist terorrists were wounded, including 2 in "serious condition".

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apparently brave Hamas fighters fired an anti-tank rocket at an Israeli vehicle carrying explosives. 3 IDF terrorists killed immediately and 12 more injured. good shot. @Falcon29
 
I am surprised you think this to be true.

An Arab Jew descended from Moroccan or Iraqi ancestry has zero rights to be in Palestine.

It is less than 10% who can trace continuous family lineage more than 100 years in Palestine and the true natives are around maybe 5%.
I didn't mean native to Palestine.

I meant they are native to the Middle East/North Africa.

I'm contradicting the Western Palestinian movements who like to frame this as strictly a White European vs Brown Middle Eastern conflict. That is not true. Half of Israelis are Mizrahis, actually probably like 60%.
 
I'm contradicting the Western Palestinian movements who like to frame this as strictly a White European vs Brown Middle Eastern conflict. That is not true. Half of Israelis are Mizrahis, actually probably like 60%.


Well in one sense they are not wrong.

The whole Zionist project was started by white European Jews and even now they dominate all the top positions in Occupied Palestine.

The white Jews only invited the Arab Jews in as they could not get enough white Jews, especially from the USA, to migrate to Palestine!

So while the population of Jewish settlers in Palestine may now have a slight non-white majority, it to all extents is a white Jewish colonial project.
 
True, Christianity diluted itself more and more because it's flock became so irreligious

So out of panic christians or the church thought, if we remain true to Christian scripture the flock would abandon us

What they ended up with is failure on both sides, they started to bend and liberalize the religion and the weak self obsessed people still left

If they can't abide by a liberal Christianity, how is a strict conservative Islam going to fix them

Only those who need faith may accept, others are just lost
There are still people with faith in the West, but they changed Christianity to all kind of new age beliefs.

Anyway, I think from a social point of view, the thing what matters is how Western new trendings have destroyed families.

Han Chinese are not religious, but they keep family as a solid rock unit of their society.

A society with broken families is doomed to fail in a longterm.

Chinese and Muslim civilizations will prevail in the future, because their families values work.

Western civilization is already destroyed, but we are not completely aware yet.
 
There are only three potent Muslim countries: Iran, Turkey and Pakistan and none of them share borders with Israel and its' not a coincidence that those three countries were allowed to become that powerful. The GCC Arabs are pansy a$$. The Iraqis, even under Saddam, and the Egyptians are C-grade militaries.
And, please, let's stop with this 'we should do this, we should do that' , 'we should be united'. Those are good words but they don't work in the real world. Even the Arab Street was relatively silent given what happened in Gaza. People have lives to live and rulers have rules to prolong and no wants to fight America head-on; even the Russians have taken huge casualties because of American support to Ukraine, but are licking their wounds slowly advancing in Ukraine while still maintaining relations with America and even doing trade! The Chinese were stopped from directly supplying to Russia and hence North Korea is being used as desperate measures to support against Ukraine. And the mighty China did almost nothing materially much for the Gazans. And here people were playing up China as something great counter to America. Hah! No boycott movements, no bad 'image' was going to work to control Israel: Only a prolonged War of Attrition would have worked, and had worked until now.

It is a victory for Israel. This guy doesn't lie.

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I watch that channel too, it's a great channel.

No doubt this is a great resounding victory for the Zionists. It is heartbreaking to see the Axis of Resistance completely shattered and there is no doubt about that, the Zionists have completely destroyed the forces of resistance in the region with the help of Erdogan who played the most crucial role.

As far as Russians and even China more distantly, being expected to counter the Zionists, I think that was always a fanciful fairytale. Russia had traditionally had good relations with Israel and although they have soured in recent years, they were never going to get into a direct conflict with Israel.

China has an even less reason to get militarily involved in this region. China is not culturally related to any of the groups here and it is a den of snakes, let's be serious about that. Look at how Iran has been treated even when they sacrificed tremendously for the Palestinian cause? They were stabbed in the back by the Arabs and Turks and even the Palestinians spit at their name. So you expect China to sacrifice its decades of economic growth and technological development to help Gaza, and then end up being backstabbed by the same people they are helping? Look at the number of Pro Palestinian Arabs here who, not only are not grateful to Iran, but make up fairytales BLAMING Gaza's situation on the Iranians! Let's be real here.

I think the case of Iran is proof that there is nothing to be gained by helping the Palestinians. At this point, I think Iran should do a 180 and announce that it no longer has imperial ambitions in the region, recognize and make peace with Israel and just abandon the Arabs and focus on their own economy and nation building.

Israel has completely made the Arab world their slaves and the Arabs only help them do so. No one else can help you when you willingly enslave yourself and backstab each other and anybody trying to help you.
 
What do you think would happen If say KSA, Egypt, Iran, Turkey, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon etc. gathered their armies against Israel and attacked at the same time? Before this would even occur the USA/Israel would have nuked/bombed the shit out of all those countries.

I hear other Arabs here telling Egypt and KSA is very strongly armed. So what is the truth?

What is all the peteodollars for?
Could have bought a lot of weapon to bomb the sense back into the Isnotreali zionist mass murderers.

Something is missing in this calculus.
 
100%
Sometimes i think what if a country like KSA, Egypt or someone of that size had helped the Gazans with just a few more modern weapons. How many of those 100 000 dead children and women could been saved.

Lets face it Turkey neither cant or wont. Its a NATO member. Iran cant either cause of lack of land access. But Egypt and KSA could.

Dont know about KSA (other than providing financial support), but Egypt definitely. On top of directly bordering Gaza and Israel, its also the largest arab nation state with 100 million people plus, and historicaly a leader of the Arab Mashreq.

Too bad it has forsaken this leadership role after Nasser.
 
Well in one sense they are not wrong.

The whole Zionist project was started by white European Jews and even now they dominate all the top positions in Occupied Palestine.

The white Jews only invited the Arab Jews in as they could not get enough white Jews, especially from the USA, to migrate to Palestine!

So while the population of Jewish settlers in Palestine may now have a slight non-white majority, it to all extents is a white Jewish colonial project.
I agree that the ideology of Zionism is inherently a colonialist ideology. That is absolutely true.

However, it is also a fact that Zionists today are not just lily White Jews. The slight majority are actually Arab Jews. That's also a fact.
 
Israel has completely made the Arab world their slaves and the Arabs only help them do so. No one else can help you when you willingly enslave yourself and backstab each other and anybody trying to help you.


Totally agree with you here.

Most Arabs and also the Turks are willing to live a life of vassalage and so no-one from the outside can really help them free themselves.

They themselves need to have the self-respect and honour to want to live as free people.

At this moment Iran needs to step-back and focus on building up its economic and military power and no it will not become another Zio-US vassal. Iranians seem to have too much self respect and that is what "peace" with the entity would entail.

Things look bleak here now but if Iran can survive and China rises to become a peer superpower to US over the next decade or so, then maybe we can finally free the ME from Zio-US vassalage if the Arabs and Turks actually want that.
 
that is hilarious misinformation. in reality:

Yahya Sinwar: “If not for Iran’s support for the resistance … we would not have obtained these capabilities. Our [Arab] nation has deserted us in our difficult moments, while Iran has supported us with weapons, equipment and expertise.”

Abu Obaidah: “We thank the Islamic Republic of Iran who provided us with weapons, money and other equipment! He gave us missiles to destroy Zionist fortresses and helped us with standard anti-tank missiles!”

Khaled Mashaal: "We thank Iran for all its material, political and Islamic support and the value of these support will never be hidden from God and Palestinian people"

Ismail Haniyeh: "and I can not but thank those who brought froth money and weaponry to the valiant resistance. The Islamic Republic of Iran; who did not hold back with money, weapons and technical support. Thanks."

Nonsense. You think the conflict began yesterday? It started prior to 1948 and continued for decades when Iran was the biggest Israeli lapdog in the region and closest Israeli ally.

No, in reality the biggest funder of Hamas was Qatar. Iran only smuggled a few firecrackers into Gaza nothing else. Prior to 2011 (Arab Spring) KSA was the biggest supporter of militant Islamic Palestinian movements. Confirmed by the Israelis numerous times.

When PLO was the strongest armed Palestinian faction Arabs were its strongest supporters from Iraq, Egypt, Algeria, Tunisia to many others. Hosting all Palestinian leadership.

Just like Qatar hosts Hamas leaders to this day.

In any case the smuggling occurs/occurred by Arabs, through Arab lands. So my correct points remain the same.

Just like it is Arabs, and only Arabs, (like always since 1948) that have been fighting Israel. I have seen 0 Iranians fight inside Israel/Palestine or on the battlefront in Gaza.
 
Totally agree with you here.

Most Arabs and also the Turks are willing to live a life of vassalage and so no-one from the outside can really help them free themselves.

They themselves need to have the self-respect and honour to want to live as free people.

At this moment Iran needs to step-back and focus on building up its economic and military power and no it will not become another Zio-US vassal. Iranians seem to have too much self respect and that is what "peace" with the entity would entail.

Things look bleak here now but if Iran can survive and China rises to become a peer superpower to US over the next decade or so, then maybe we can finally free the ME from Zio-US vassalage if the Arabs and Turks actually want that.
I have been a keen watcher of Middle Eastern politics for a very long time. I have visited the region, so I have a lot of insight into the cultures in the region.

Look, the reality is that Arabs will never trust or like a strong Iran. It doesn't matter if Iran supports Palestine or not. Even when Iran was firing missiles into Israel, I saw that there was only a begrudging approval from a minority of Arabs, while the majority were either downplaying Iran's strike as "just a show" or even making up twisted accusations that Iran "put the Gazans in danger".

Iran's pan-Islamic ideology is a fucking failure, let's face the facts. Iran's Islamic Republic reminds me of Mao's China when China was trying to foment revolutions worldwide while its own people were starving and living like dirt poor peasants. After Mao died, Deng Xiaoping came in and announced that China will no longer be involved with the politics of other countries and China put its head down and became a superpower. That's what Iran should do now.

The world respects two things, MONEY and POWER. The West is superior because of three things, MONEY, MILITARY and TECHNOLOGY. China is catching up or surpassing the West in many of these key fields and it will not get involved in a direct conflict over non-core interests until it becomes dominant. Just by becoming a peer to the West in these fields, it provides crucial alternative options to non-Western countries that they never had before.

Anyways, I strongly believe that this astounding defeat should be a clear sign for Iran to fundamentally change its approach and to abandon it's pan-Islamic project, abandon the Arabs and focus on nation building.
 
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