Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present

[Meengla]

He is living in Germany and as a friendly advice, you should really find some other guy to learn more about Syria. He is mostly clueless and incredibly biased (extremely pro-Al-Assad regime) and he is barely an Syrian to begin with. His parents were Armenian migrants that came to Syria. He is a rabid anti-Sunni Muslim person (to him every Syrian that is against Al-Assad is AQ/ISIS meaning that in reality 90% of Syrians are that), anti-Turkey person (as most Armenians) and pro-Russia (for historical and religious reasons).

His voice does not even represent 0.5% of Syrian opinions.

Don't believe me? Tag the 100's of other well-known Syrian Twitter personalities and ask them what they think about his likes and that other clown (SyrianGirl) that has been based in Australia for the past 10 years and is also a huge Al-Assad supporter. The funny thing with those 2 and other Al-Assad supporters? None of them live in Syria and most escaped it even when Al-Assad ruled all of it.

Firstly, you are mostly correct about the expulsion of the Palestinians. Israel cannot expel all the 5-6 million Palestinians who are living in Israel proper, the West Bank, and Gaza at least in the near future. For that some major regional war has to happen to provide the 'cover' but Israelis would be glad to reduce the Palestinian population to no more than 20% of the current one; that maybe 'acceptable' to the international community and provide a 'cover' for 'genocide'.

As to Kevork: I don't care about his residence, or religious background, or any bias. If we shoot down every messenger because of their background and only listen to those who sound pleasing then we are in an echo chamber. Sure, Kevork has his bias like all of us. But I have seen Kevork's expertise in describing various militias and forces arrayed in Syria in larger geopolitical context and unless I found a better source, he was/is my Go to Guy on Syria.

 

[_Arabia_]

Israel has murdered over 200,000 since Oct 7th. They will keep murdering them until they get to zero if they can't expel them. They are literally being starved to death as we speak. They have largely been expelled from North Gaza and are starving/freezing to death while being bombed in South Gaza.

No, around 44.500 Gazans have died according to the Gaza Health Ministry which is run by Hamas itself as of December 2024.

There is a long way from that to being able to somehow expel 8 million or so Palestinians overall (Gaza, West Bank, Israel itself).

You never answered where those millions upon millions of Palestinians will be expelled too and who is going to host them willingly without starting a major war?

Also is Israel going to expel them or kill them all according to you? Regardless of which option, they are not going to be allowed to do that in year 2025 and onwards. You can be certain about that. Their master (USA) will not allow it. Nobody will.

 

[UKBengali]

Israel has murdered over 200,000 since Oct 7th. They will keep murdering them until they get to zero if they can't expel them. They are literally being starved to death as we speak. They have largely been expelled from North Gaza and are starving/freezing to death while being bombed in South Gaza.

Under Trump and with Syria falling to the 'Jihadis', things are going to get from bad to worse for Palestinians.

Next target will be Hezbollah to be placed under land, air and sea siege in Lebanon.

 

[_Arabia_]

Firstly, you are mostly correct about the expulsion of the Palestinians. Israel cannot expel all the 5-6 million Palestinians who are living in Israel proper, the West Bank, and Gaza at least in the near future. For that some major regional war has to happen to provide the 'cover' but Israelis would be glad to reduce the Palestinian population to no more than 20% of the current one; that maybe 'acceptable' to the international community and provide a 'cover' for 'genocide'.

As to Kevork: I don't care about his residence, or religious background, or any bias. If we shoot down every messenger because of their background and only listen to those who sound pleasing then we are in an echo chamber. Sure, Kevork has his bias like all of us. But I have seen Kevork's expertise in describing various militias and forces arrayed in Syria in larger geopolitical context and unless I found a better source, he was/is my Go to Guy on Syria.

I agree, peoples backgrounds etc. should not matter in terms of their opinions but in his case it is impossible to separate those two. It was just a friendly heads up that his opinions are fringe within the Syrian community for obvious reasons.

And a guy whose parents and grandparents were welcomed by Arabs (Sunni Arabs - that he now calls ISIS/AQ) of Syria, when supposedly his people (Armenians) were undergoing a genocide, has no shame when he blindly supports a regime the likes of Al-Assad from Germany knowing everything he and every Syrian knows about it. It is disingenuous and quite frankly abhorrent if you ask me but each to their own.

 

[tower9]

No, around 44.500 Gazans have died according to the Gaza Health Ministry which is run by Hamas itself as of December 2024.

There is a long way from that to being able to somehow expel 8 million or so Palestinians overall (Gaza, West Bank, Israel itself).

You never answered where those millions upon millions of Palestinians will be expelled too and who is going to host them willingly without starting a major war?

Also is Israel going to expel them or kill them all according to you? Regardless of which option, they are not going to be allowed to do that in year 2025 and onwards. You can be certain about that. Their master (USA) will not allow it. Nobody will.

You really believe that figure of 44,500? That hasn't barely changed since a year ago. Accounting has also completely collapsed as Palestinian society in Gaza has been destroyed. Most of the place is in rubble and there are tens of thousands of bodies in the rubble.

My take is that Israel will continue murdering and starving the Gazans and eventually the rest will be expelled into Egypt. But currently they are doing it piecemeal. They will take North Gaza first while South Gaza continues to be starved out. 90% of the Gazans now live in tents and are exposed to the elements with minimal food and zero healthcare, you understand that right?

 

[_Arabia_]

You really believe that figure of 44,500? That hasn't barely changed since a year ago. Accounting has also completely collapsed as Palestinian society in Gaza has been destroyed. Most of the place is in rubble and there are tens of thousands of bodies in the rubble.

My take is that Israel will continue murdering and starving the Gazans and eventually the rest will be expelled into Egypt. But currently they are doing it piecemeal. They will take North Gaza first while South Gaza continues to be starved out. 90% of the Gazans now live in tents and are exposed to the elements with minimal food and zero healthcare, you understand that right?

It is the only official figure available so far. Given by Hamas run Gazan Ministry of Health. So if I should not be believing that official figure, what figure should I be believing exactly? The Israeli ones?

No 8-10 million Palestinians is going to be expelled as that is not possible to do for Israel nor will they be allowed to do it. Not even the Palestinian Arabs within Israel proper will be expelled.

Al-Sissi already publicly said numerous times that if Israel attempts to expel Gazans into Sinai he will be forced to start a war with Israel.

Despite the numerous Israeli crimes, much humanitarian aid still reaches Gazans. I know for instance that KSA has delivered 1000's upon 1000's of tonnes of aid and is doing it on a monthly basis. Several Arab and non-Arab counties are doing it as well.

 

[tower9]

It is the only official figure available so far. Given by Hamas run Gazan Ministry of Health. So if I should not be believing that official figure, what figure should I be believing exactly? The Israeli ones?

No 8-10 million Palestinians is going to be expelled as that is not possible to do for Israel nor will they be allowed to do it. Not even the Palestinian Arabs within Israel proper will be expelled.

Al-Sissi already publicly said numerous times that if Israel attempts to expel Gazans into Sinai he will be forced to start a war with Israel.

Yes, the solid accounting provided by the Gazan Ministry of Health from their professionally run office.

 

[_Arabia_]

Yes, the solid accounting provided by the Gazan Ministry of Health from their professionally run office.

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We are discussing something that none of us knows about with certainty. I go by the official Gazan numbers. Rest is speculation. Also it does not matter (in terms of my overall point) whether it is 45.500, 50.350, 60.000 or more. Regardless of the real number, there is a world of difference between that and Israel somehow being able/allowed to expel or kill all 8-10 million Palestinians within Palestine. I hope you understand this simple difference.

 

[Meengla]

And a guy whose parents and grandparents were welcomed by Arabs (Sunni Arabs - that he now calls ISIS/AQ) of Syria, when supposedly his people (Armenians) were undergoing a genocide, has no shame when he blindly supports a regime the likes of Al-Assad from Germany knowing everything he and every Syrian knows about it. It is disingenuous and quite frankly abhorrent if you ask me but each to their own.

If you watch the 17 minute video I posted above, he shows quite a balanced view:
1) CIA 'rebranding' the former ISIS image of Jolani
2) Israel eyeing a city in Syria by enticing the Druze community.
3) Assad ran away like a coward as part of 'deal'
4) The minority-friendly regime of the Assad regime
5) Kevork being born and raised in Syria and thus has a strong affinity with Syria

As far as I can tell, he being a Christian, is wary of the pseudo-Jihadis and so he naturally gravitated toward Assad compared with what was to follow. But he still didn't spare Assad in his video.

The majority of Syrian can say whatever they want to. Sometimes there is incumbency fatigue which drives them. In case of the Middle Eastern countries, sectarianism runs deep. The majority is not always right and that has been proven many times in history!

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

Yup, inability to see beyond their nose is their big curse! Cheering for the 'brutal' Assad's fall while those who Assad fought were even more brutal. ISIS is the most brutal organization in the world along with the Israelis security forces/prison system. They have brought too much of the 'democracy' propaganda: Assad did exactly what Pakistan, Turkey, Egypt, China and other countries would do: When the American South tried to secede then there was a very brutal 4-5 year Civil War. When the Sikhs in India tried to secede, the Indian forces launched a brutal operation in Amritsar and didn't much care for the holiest Sikh sites. The 'compromise' asked of Assad was to capitulate and then to decapitate!
To the 'democracy' lovers: I hope you are right and something good does come out of the new 'freedom and democracy' in Syria but I seriously doubt that and looking at the quoted post, it is evident that what is coming to Syria is almost certainly going to be much worse than the 'tyrant' Assad.

Looking beyond the nose or keeping eye on the target?

Got a lemon? make lemonade!

Far from what it seems. This IS NOT what zion wanted or intended. Groups are not given small arms to win, they are to cause discord and chaos. Assad left, incoming got everything largely intact. Expect wrath of zion!

Parasite sucks blood on living host.

Simultaneously, Iran and Russia did the right thing... now that they expect a larger conflict with orange at the helm. They want to sure up the home front.

 

[_Arabia_]

If you watch the 17 minute video I posted above, he shows quite a balanced view:
1) CIA 'rebranding' the former ISIS image of Jolani
2) Israel eyeing a city in Syria by enticing the Druze community.
3) Assad ran away like a coward as part of 'deal'
4) The minority-friendly regime of the Assad regime
5) Kevork being born and raised in Syria and thus has a strong affinity with Syria

As far as I can tell, he being a Christian, is wary of the pseudo-Jihadis and so he naturally gravitated toward Assad compared with what was to follow. But he still didn't spare Assad in his video.

The majority of Syrian can say whatever they want to. Sometimes there is incumbency fatigue which drives them. In case of the Middle Eastern countries, sectarianism runs deep. The majority is not always right and that has been proven many times in history!

I might give it a listen. Obviously a broken clock can be right at least twice a day. Obviously every party in any conflict has something intelligent/correct to say but his opinions (I am talking about those he had just 1 month ago) were very different when Al-Assad was still around. There was no amount of praise that could not be given to Al-Assad. Now he has apparently labelled him as a coward? Interesting but not unexpected.

As for minorities, they will be all right, the same people he used to call ISIS/AQ, were the same ones that welcomed his people (Armenians) with open arms in the first place.

Anyway look at the ground reality. Assad has been gone for almost 3 days by now. Have you heard about any mass-killings of Alawites and other minorities? Heck, there are barely any reprisals so far against leading Al-Assad regime figures (granted most escaped or are in hiding) but it is very telling.

This is not Iraq of 2003.

 

[Meengla]

Simultaneously, Iran and Russia did the right thing... now that they expect a larger conflict with orange at the helm. They want to sure up the home front.

Yes, it does seem like Russia/China/Iran decided to focus away from Palestine, for now at least and hence the 'deal' to let Assad fall and flee happened, as Kevork said in the video I posted above.

 

[The SC]

For the first time, cabinet members were notified of Hamas’ approval of a prisoner exchange deal.

@Bk_Hanas

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

Yes, it does seem like Russia/China/Iran decided to focus away from Palestine, for now at least and hence the 'deal' to let Assad fall and flee happened, as Kevork said in the video I posted above.

In the world of unintended consequences. This was the best of all available outcomes...

 

[FOOLS_NIGHTMARE]

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