Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present

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Aziqbal said:
and its clear

Israel has more control of the US Military than the sitting US President
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i won't argue against this.
Aziqbal said:
another words war against Israel is not the issue

War against Israel means War against USA and its 11 Nuclear Carriers
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But Yemen (Houthis) opened a war against Israel and US only sent 1 aircraft carrier to fight Yemen...and that Aircraft carrier ran away recently after the Yemenis shot a US Navy F-18 over the red sea. US only have multiple aircrafts available atm and IMO for a conflict with China.

Some people don't realize that military entities can witness and experience the military weakness of Israel and US, IF THEY ARE WILLING TO ENTER KINETIC WAR with Israel or/and US. The Taliban entered kinetic war with US and NATO and saw their weaknesses- their lack of stamina and determination, which led to the worst war withdrawal in US military history.

Operationally, Israel is already lacking critical soldiers (killed + injured over 1,000), like Ukraine (killed and injured - 800K-1M), and some people on PDF dont want to accept or realize that this was the reason Israel signed the ceasefire agreement with Hezbollah- the attrition of soldiers and facilities was getting too much for Israel.

The only reason Hezbollah's guns are quite now is because Israel signed the ceasefire deal and to give the Lebanese state a fair chance to restrain Israel's genocidal efforts against Lebanon.
Aziqbal said:
so next time we need to ensure that you can defeat USA before taking out Israel
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Israel is probably half defeated now, but defeating Israel is all or nothing- no stopping in between to give Israel time and resources to recover and bounce back (Ukraine is begging for this too, but it will never get it).
Aziqbal said:
I would after 2040

by that time Russian Bear will be fully equipped
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Russia looks fully equipped today- i mean, the Ukraine war is scaring some of Russia's enemies, and we know this because instead of fighting Russia, they are too scared, so all they do is supply weapons and money- this is just how end of Afghanistan and other wars started- strong supply of money and weapons- they wont save an imperialist after a certain threshold.
Aziqbal said:
China GDP will be larger than USA and will have 6 of their own Carriers in the Pacific Fleet

then countries like Iran, Turkey, Egypt and Pakistan can get together and ensure they can coke and suffocate Israel
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Turkey is a full US puppet, Egyptian govt is cowardly and subservient to Israel, and Pakistani govt is bought out by US and China govts, so Iran is alone, as its been from a while ago.
 
Persian Gulf said:
the only place where Israeli leaders are held to account for their terrorist threats is the ICJ

so at least it is all being documented very thoroughly
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And some European countries are telling us they will arrest Netanyahu if he sets foot in their countries, but this is a lie- they have no intent to arrest Netanyahu. An example of this type of European country? Poland.
 
925boy said:
Israel is probably half defeated now, but defeating Israel is all or nothing- no stopping in between to give Israel time and resources to recover and bounce back
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This!

There is no turning back... they know it too... the collective west is playing it's last card before sunset!
 
Solomon2 said:

Wikipedia Declares Hamas the Victor in Nearly Every Battle Against Israel Since 10/7—Then Quietly Deletes Section​

Online encyclopedia has published 'wildly inaccurate' information about Jewish state​

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Adam Kredo
January 2, 2025
Wikipedia editors quietly deleted an entry claiming that Hamas has won nearly every battle against Israel since Oct. 7, setting off a fiery debate about the online database’s bias and inability to accurately portray the war.

In its article listing "military engagements during the Israel–Hamas war," Wikipedia declared Hamas and its terror allies the victors in just about every key battle with Israel over the past year, according to multiple archived versions of the entry.

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The page remained active through the end of last year, even as Wikipedia’s editors were unable to provide trustworthy sourcing for these claims. After the entry went viral on social media, Wikipedia removed the section entirely and added a disclaimer stating, "This article has multiple issues."

It is just the latest example of Wikipedia peddling false information about Israel and its military campaign against Hamas and Hezbollah. The site has come under fire for spreading falsehoods about the Jewish state, including a "wildly inaccurate" September 2024 article on Zionism that portrayed Jews as "colonizers."

The latest conflict centers on Wikipedia’s determination—published without evidence—that the Palestinians won at least a dozen battles in Gaza since Oct. 7. Before its alteration, the article declared either a "Palestinian victory," "Hamas victory," or "Israeli withdrawal" in each of these cases.

The current version of the entry no longer includes this category. Instead, it lists the various terror groups that participated in specific battles against Israeli forces.

In open forums on the site, Wikipedia users accused the article’s editors of pushing anti-Israel propaganda, with one commenter calling the entry "a joke."

"Does anyone seriously believe that Hamas has won every battle since the invasion?" one user asked.

After the entry drew social media attention earlier this week, a Wikipedia editor using the handle "Toomuchcuriosity" decided to remove the section entirely.

"Right now, I believe the best solution is to remove the 'results' section from the tables or replace it with actual information from the sources instead of the ‘victory'/'loss’ binary," the editor wrote.

The move did not sit well with other Wikipedia editors actively shaping the entry.

One of these editors, known as "The Great Mule of Eupatoria," claimed in the discussion section that Israel’s military victories are hollow, writing that there is a "difference between defeating an enemy on the battlefield and massacring/taking revenge on civilians to pretend to have some military victory." The editor in question lists their online interests as "birds, Arab nationalism, Middle Eastern military history, twinks."

Joe Truzman, an expert on Palestinian militant groups with the Foundation for Defense of Democracies think tank, said the latest online controversy highlights the often inaccurate nature of Wikipedia’s entries about Israel.

"Readers should not use Wikipedia as a primary source of information about the war in Gaza," he said. "The authors often blend factual information with inaccuracies, obscuring the conflict's complexities for readers seeking a neutral understanding. Those who lack a deep background in the war or the historical context of the Gaza-Israel conflicts will struggle to distinguish between fact and fiction on the platform."



The result, Truzman said, is that Wikipedia "contributes to the widespread dissemination of disinformation and misinformation propagated by terrorist groups and their supporters."

Wikipedia did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
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Solomon2 said:
...One of the greatest mass delusions of the 21st century is the belief that Israel is committing a genocide against Palestinians. This grotesque moral inversion — in which a genocidal terrorist organization that instigated a war with Israel by committing the largest massacre of Jews since the Holocaust is absolved of responsibility while the victim of Hamas’s attack is charged with perpetrating the worst crime known to man — began taking shape before Israel even launched its ground invasion of Gaza.

A charitable description of those imputing genocidal motivations to Israel is that they are ignorant, essentially believing the word to mean “large numbers of civilian casualties.”...For others, accusing Israel of genocide is an emotional outlet for expressing outrage at such a horrific loss of life. A third, more pessimistic, characterization of the ubiquitous genocide canard is that it is only the latest iteration of the ancient antisemitic blood libel...

The real objectives behind the cynical weaponization of the word “genocide” and the authoritarian insistence that anyone who disagrees with it is an enabler of one are to shut down debate, defame dissenters and impose a rigid orthodoxy...

Compelling speech...is the tactic of commissars, not writers in a free society. Censorship, thought policing and bullying are antithetical to the spirit of literature, which is best understood as an intimate conversation between the author and individual readers -

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The biggest mass delusion is that the current Zionists are Jews... They are not...

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Israel not trying to hide it's intention to execute a final solution in Gaza. It wants everyone in Gaza dead. And it's been trying with it's utmost power and resources to do so.

After banning UNRWA and international media from accessing Gaza. It will try starvation on a mass scale. It's very clearly not about Hamas. And it's very clearly not a 'war'. It's a modern day Holocaust unprecedented in cruelty.

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925boy said:
Some people don't realize that military entities can witness and experience the military weakness of Israel and US, IF THEY ARE WILLING TO ENTER KINETIC WAR with Israel or/and US. The Taliban entered kinetic war with US and NATO and saw their weaknesses- their lack of stamina and determination, which led to the worst war withdrawal in US military history.
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The Afghan Taliban had sanctuaries in Pakistan, a fact the official Pakistan tries to deny all the time, just like Pakistan denied the sanctuaries for the Mujahideen against the Soviets. The 'worst war withdrawal' you are talking about happened to a significant degree because of the Pakistani support to the Afghan Taliban.
925boy said:
The only reason Hezbollah's guns are quite now is because Israel signed the ceasefire deal and to give the Lebanese state a fair chance to restrain Israel's genocidal efforts against Lebanon.
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Seems like it. I think there is a major regrouping and recuperation by all sides--Israel too is badly bruised.
925boy said:
Israel is probably half defeated now, but defeating Israel is all or nothing- no stopping in between to give Israel time and resources to recover and bounce back (Ukraine is begging for this too, but it will never get it).
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Agreed. I had said it many times things like 'though not for me to say, I don't think the Resistance should stop until there is a long term change against Israel'.
925boy said:
Turkey is a full US puppet, Egyptian govt is cowardly and subservient to Israel, and Pakistani govt is bought out by US and China govts, so Iran is alone, as its been from a while ago.
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Please leave Pakistan out of it; this forum and the blogspace in general is full of a certain Pakistani political party's followers who keep misleading non-Pakistanis. Pakistan's is economically an extremely vulnerable state and has to rely on America and its Western/Non-Western/GCC allies. Otherwise, it was the same Pakistan which helped the Taliban to defeat the Americans in Afghanistan. But Pakistan is slowly moving away to the China aligned world: Already the military equipment reliance on the West is much less but the global economy is an American led near monopoly. If you really want to look at puppets then look at Jordan or Germany.
 
925boy said:
And some European countries are telling us they will arrest Netanyahu if he sets foot in their countries, but this is a lie- they have no intent to arrest Netanyahu. An example of this type of European country? Poland.
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You are wrong.

Netanyahu and Gallant will never step foot in any ICC country ever again.

Netanyahu had to cancel a visit to Auswitz as Poland said they will arrest him if he travels.
 
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