Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present

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And why should any Arabs (as in states) be risking wars and their own safety due to the utter stupidity of Hamas and its backers? Let your beloved Mullah's in Iran take on Israel and USA after 46 years of constant barking. I don't know any sane Arab that wants to go to war with Israel/USA/entire West for the sake of Hamas or any non-state actor or group.

Palestinians themselves are not even united themselves. What were 2 million Palestinians doing within Israel proper? Or in the West Bank? Hardly much. To date there is no formal unified Palestinain government that is representing all (or as many Palestinians as possible) across the occupied territories. West Bank is ruled by Abbas/PLO dictators (not much unlike rest of Arab/Muslim world - difference is that they are incapable of providing even the basics and deeply unpopular) and Gaza is besieged and has been ruled by Hams for 19 years. Look, I have no problem with Hamas nor is it my business who Palestinians are ruled by (among their own) but don't expect sovereign states to risk their own livelihoods, stability etc. for the sake of an armed group (that represents some Palestinians but not all naturally) whose attack (which kickstarted this Israeli massacre and war crimes) was not shared with any state.

And Jordan cannot do anything against Israel militarily. UAE is far away and not involved. Egypt did the right thing as did KSA (worked for a diplomatic solution plus aid).

No country, whether Muslim, Arab or whatever is doing that so why should Egypt, Jordan, KSA or UAE do it again?

Where is 250 million big nuclear armed Pakistan?

Nobody is sleeping, I already wrote some facts about Arab demographics, the size and riches of the Arab world and current and future projected economic power. You can continue living in some alternative universe of Israel annexing the entire Arab world when they can't even defeat Hamas in tiny besieged Gaza.

How hard is it to understand that there is no military solution to this 76 year old conflict? How hard it is to understand that only Israelis and Palestinians (not other Arabs) can solve it? The ball is mostly in the Israeli court. If not for them, there would have been a two-state solution long ago. Stop obsessing or blaming Arabs for things/events they have little to do with and can do little about.

As for your nonsense about that false/weak ahadith, not going to repeat myself, House of Saud are originally from Eastern Arabia, not Najd, nor has Makkah or Madinah ever been under any "Zionist" control and few dynasties have done more for Islam and Muslims in the modern era. Clearly only the absurd talking points of sect members belonging to a certain deluded/false group.
Former Palestinian Minister Sufyan Abu Zaida: There is no serious dialogue between Fatah and Hamas regarding the formation of a technocrat government to manage the West Bank and Gaza ..

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Again I ask, what did the Arabs do to help the Palestinians. If you can't answer and choose to waffle on, I'll stop asking this difficult question and the rest of the forum will know the true answer.
They could have at least closed the Suez or even their air spaces to military/civil aviation of Israel/Zionist forces. That's the least they could do and not have to go to war with the US.
Or maybe they could have forced aid into Gaza under a UN or Arab league mandate. That wouldn't have caused a war with the US.
Many other examples I could give. But they didn't lift a finger did they? Tell the truth. They could have helped their brothers and sisters in dire need...After all, that's what the prophet ordered. Rather they buried their heads in the rich sands of Arabia. Shame really.

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Egypt can't punish the whole world trade by closing the Suez Canal..and turn the world against it for Gaza..it has its own people to protect too..

Arabs went to 4 open wars with Israel that was backed militarily by France and England and then by the US.. the military solution did not work to liberate Palestine..
 
Just tell us what KSA have done for the Palestinians , the proof is in the pudding as they say. Do you not follow the way of our holy prophet (PBUH) or do you follow the way of the disco Mullahs?
Saudi Arabia did rebuild Gaza twice not once.. it went to all 4 wars against Israel..

And know that when the US tells you boldly they are involved in the war against Gaza..you can not do much..or confront the US at your own risk..
 
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American Senate fail to pass a bill to punish the international criminal court ICC

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On Tuesday, the US Senate failed a bill that would have imposed sanctions on the International Criminal Court, for issuing two notes to arrest Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and former Defense Secretary Yoav Gallant.


The Council opposed the draft law by a majority of 54 votes compared to 45, which means that the procedure did not obtain the 60 votes required for its approval in the Senate consisting of 100 members.

It is reported that the Republican Parliament has approved the legislation earlier.

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Thank you to the Arab Republic of Egypt for all that you provided to our Palestinian people, for its refusal to displace

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"The hero of this scene is Abdel -Fattah El -Sisi"

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Urgent Jerusalem Post on sources: Egypt and Jordan have informed close to Trump that the implementation of his plan to displace the Palestinians may harm the efforts of normalization

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Palestinian source for Sky News Arabia: The Palestinian delegation will leave for Egypt next Saturday to meet the Egyptian Foreign Minister and the American envoy to complete the research of the Palestinian Authority's return to Gaza and the administration of the Rafah crossing

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Your kin were busy celebrating Halloween and going to Shakira concerts.
Run along you disgraceful remnant of an "arab".
You are sitting in the UK as a Pakistani, a country that has not even done 1% of what Arabs and Saudi Arabians have done for Palestinian historically. Let alone in the past 1400-1500 years.

Yes, the world is not sitting still anywhere regardless of what is going on anywhere. Is your suggestion that KSA, as the only country on earth, should be mourning and standing still while everybody else is moving on? As they have done regardless of any conflicts?

This is ridiculous discussion. Without Saudi Arabians there are no Palestinians to begin with as I wrote. There is no Islam in Palestine. There is no Al-Quds. There is no notion of a Palestinian ethnicity or entity.

If not for the Rashidun, Umayyad, Abbasid, Fatimid (all Saudi Arabian/Arabian/Hejazi dynasties from modern-day KSA) etc. Later on practically every single local ruling Palestinian dynasty prior to 1948 where also originally Hejazi or from KSA. You can even see it in 100's of Palestininian family names, name of villages etc.

And KSA has went to war with Israel, never recognized Israel, supported Palestine/Gaza more economically than anybody else and even since 7th of October, it has been the greatest aid donor.

Keep sittin in the UK and lecturing and making a joke of yourself.

"Sunni"

This is a funny joke. Its even funnier if you are actually believe it!!!
Yes, Arabs created 3 of the 10 largest empires in human history, have been one of the most influential people in history, control a landmass the size of Europe spanning 2 continents, that happens to be one of the richest landmasses out there and most historical (home to the oldest civilizations on the planet) and in the case of KSA we were never ruled by any outsiders or conquered in its entirety.

But what does a people who were subject to 2 famines (starvation campaigns orchestrated by the USSR and UK/US) know about independence? You were literally conquered and ruled by the USSR and UK during WW2. Now you are ruled by Western-installed Mullah's who proudly all claim Arab ancestry by large. Begging for sanctions etc. to be lifted and getting used as a tissue paper by the US/West continuously after decades of sanction At least you have some useless North Korean firecrackers though and an economy smaller than 10 million big UAE, lol.
 
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Keep shitting in the UK and lecturing and making a joke of yourself.
and you cant understand why you get banned. Stop using derogatory words against fellow members or once again you will be sitting in the sidelines whining and suggesting biased mods..........
 
and you cant understand why you get banned. Stop using derogatory words against fellow members or once again you will be sitting in the sidelines whining and suggesting biased mods..........
I wrote sitting literally before your quoted my message. It was clearly a writing mistake. Besides why is this troll getting personnel and making idiotic generalizations because he is incapable of arguing or making his case?

What is this thread, some kind of echo chamber where you should share the exact same nonsense views of a few vocal users who keep repeating themselves 24/7, pointing fingers 24/7 at others while living in glass houses themselves?

Sorry, I don't equal Hamas with Gazans or Palestinians nor am I bound to consider them equal to Islam or Palestine or any rulers for that matter. That is blasphemy in my eyes. But apparently you are an "infidel" if that is the case. According to the same trolls here.

7th of October was careless and resulted in the greatest harm to Palestinians since the Nabka in 1948. I don't understand how any sane person can deem it to be a success. Unless they value Palestinian lives to be worth nothing.

And I stand by Palestinians having had useless leadership by large since 1948. It has shown in events on the ground.
 
I wrote sitting literally before your quoted my message. It was clearly a writing mistake. Besides why is this troll getting personnel and making idiotic generalizations because he is incapable of arguing or making his case?

What is this thread, some kind of echo chamber where you should share the exact same nonsense views of a few vocal users who keep repeating themselves 24/7, pointing fingers 24/7 at others while living in glass houses themselves?

Sorry, I don't equal Hamas with Gazans or Palestinians nor am I bound to consider them equal to Islam or Palestine or any rulers for that matter. That is blasphemy in my eyes. But apparently you are an "infidel" if that is the case. According to the same trolls here.

7th of October was careless and resulted in the greatest harm to Palestinians since the Nabka in 1948. I don't understand how any sane person can deem it to be a success. Unless they value Palestinian lives to be worth nothing.

And I stand by Palestinians having had useless leadership by large since 1948. It has shown in events on the ground.
Write whatever you want - be critical and scrutinize. Dont abuse fellow members. Stop going off at a tangent. Report offensive posts and they will be dealt with.
 
Former Palestinian Minister Sufyan Abu Zaida: There is no serious dialogue between Fatah and Hamas regarding the formation of a technocrat government to manage the West Bank and Gaza ..

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I have been hearing about that for the past 20 years with no meaningful results of any kind. For me it is tragicomic and a great shame that a people who has been subjected to what the Palestinians have been subjected to in the modern era, have failed to create 1 single unified government that absorbs and is able to truly represent every layer of Palestinian society regardless of political or ideological viewpoints. This senseless division has been greatly taken advantage of by Israel.

I have great respect for the foot soldiers of Hamas and those who fought against the IDF in Gaza. I also don't think that any outsiders, regardless of being Arab or not, should be imposing their will on who should be controlling Gaza or what group should represent Palestinians officially. That is the sole prerogative of Palestinians.

As I have written many times, the weakness of Arabs and Muslims are our disunity and lack of trust and genuine cooperation and unfortunately we see many of the same problems and divisions among Palestinians of all people who probably more than anyone else should have/be avoiding that at all costs.

For instance 90% of all of occupied Palestine is ruled by a corrupt and incompetent regime (Abbas, West Bank government). It is a huge problem that cannot simply be ignored if you want to find actual solutions to the lack of Palestinian statehood which is the core of the problem here.

No matter if the enemy/opponent here (Israel) is 1 million times worse and the root cause of all the trouble to begin with as cannot be argued against.

Saudi Arabia did rebuild Gaza twice not once.. it went to all 4 wars against Israel..

And know that when the US tells you boldly they are involved in the war against Gaza..you can not do much..or confront the US at your own risk..
Never again. Let Israel/USA/West/Iran rebuilt Gaza.
 
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