Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present

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Gaza journalist known for sectarian hatred towards Hezbollah and Iran uses image of Lebanese man holding remains of his killed child and attributes it to Gaza

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Trump still trying to bully Egypt and Jordan into accepting ethnic cleansing of Palestinians from Gaza

 

[Ali_Baba]

That is called day dreaming and wishful thinking..

Do you really believe that nation's security can be played with switches from abroad..

I believe it as much as i believe several thousand pagers embedded with explosives and control signals can be remotely activated causing death and destruction. Yes i do.

 

[UKBengali]

I believe it as much as i believe several thousand pagers embedded with explosives and control signals can be remotely activated causing death and destruction. Yes i do.

Some posters here will apologise for slaves and vassals(Egypt,KSA) all day long as really some grand strategic plan to fool the Zio-US into what their true intentions are.

 

[Reichsminister Ernst Röhm]

@UKBengali

What are the potential muslim countries to go to war against Israel?

And i mean, going to war and actually defeat Israel, and remind that the US will backup Israel with aid and assistance?

- Pakistan
- Turkey
- Egypt
- Iran
- Algeria
- Saudi Arabia
- Indonesia

They will all lose due to geographic locations, sanctions, US support, nukes etc.

So no need to talk about this or claiming that they are traitors.

 

[Flotilla]

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Trump still trying to bully Egypt and Jordan into accepting ethnic cleansing of Palestinians from Gaza

It is nasty. They are helping in a ethnic cleaning. That is the reason why they didn't stop to send money to Sisi's traitors.

 

[Unknowntruth]

On one hand you say PA has the right strategy and on the other hand you say the situation in the West Bank is terrible. Whose strategies led to that situation?

I didn’t say the PA has the right strategy, I am just saying they are right in one regard. How can they take on Israel without Muslim backing? As you see in Gaza, they will just massacre civilians and blame it on any resistance. The world saw the genocide live and nothing was done.

Protests in West Bank are possible. They just don't happen. We have not seen large attempts at protests that are then shut down by the PA, so the idea the PA suppression is the only reason these protests don't happen is not true. We see huge protests around the world even in countries deeply beholden to Zionists.

And it's not just the West Bank. It's also in Jordan where we don't see massive protests despite the majority of the population being Palestinians. I am forced to conclude these Palestinians are too comfortable with their current lives to fight for their freedom.


I don't think expecting at least some protests about your own people being subject to genocide is expecting too much. Millions of random white people in the West can do this so I think Palestinians in the West Bank should be able to do so as well.

Do you know that people just criticizing the PA even just on social media are rounded up? People overseas are being intimidated with threats to their family for speaking out.

What happen in Jenin just recently? Didn’t the PA get in a shoot out with resistance groups?

Anyone that protests will be rounded up and tortured. PA fears an Israel intervention when these protests will lead to full intifada. Israel is already closing the checkpoints and preventing any movements. They will do what they are doing to Jenin but even worse if another protests/intifada happen. Israel has done a good job of separating resistance cells from being able to reinforce each other or move around.

The PA does not want to fight Israel and while I think the UN is useless, this is what they believe the right course of action. They know Israel will just demolish the West Bank and nothing will be gained while Israel has Western backing while Palestinians do not have full Muslim backing.

No, I agree it's not enough. Iran and Yemen are far away and cannot influence matters given that distance. But Turkey, Egypt, Jordan, Saudi, are much closer and their failure to intervene is a bigger problem.

Without Muslim support, the Palestinian people will be lead to suicide. Other resistance movements have had outside support, Palestinians have very little support and especially when it comes to arms.

I agree with most of this. But what the lions of Gaza achieved on October 7th, in military terms, was a miracle and truly impressive operation. The cost of the operation was exceedingly high because the enemy is an inhumane and fascistic society that celebrates the murder of babies.

October 7 did show what Palestinian can do if they had the weapons to fight Israel. The problem is, what happened after? Gaza is rubble and a genocide on civilians. It was meant to wake up the Muslim world but alas it was futile.

You know what else it showed? That the entire Muslim world is worthless when a small group of fighters can breach Israel and wipe out an entire brigade on the borders. Many soldiers ran like the chickens they are.

Just imagine if Muslim armies with advanced weapons can do to this little nation with very little or incompetent soldiers.

I agree. Yemen and Iran did not abandon them but they are too far away to have an impact (and there are limits to the extent that even Iran will help due to the price it will pay from America/Israel). Unfortunately most of the states closer to Palestine that could have a meaningful impact are owned by or vassals of the USA.

I am not saying Iran and Yemen only abandon them. The entire Muslim world abandoned them. You need backing from Muslim powers to resist or even intervention.

Palestinians have no tanks, no fighter aircraft , no anti aircraft systems, etc Israel has shown that it will carpet bomb everything including civilians if it is threatened, will the Muslim world counter that?

No

That is the problem, the West protected Israel from genocide case to carry out their Genocide and Muslims did voiced condemnations.

Which one would you rather have?

 

[Unknowntruth]

Given that the vast majority of Egypts weapsons are USA supplied, the Americans can potentially just switch off large parts of Egypts defence and let Israel attack and establish new facts on the ground in Sinai ?

Whose fault is that? Egypt is not alone in this matter, other Muslim nations are in the same boat. Muslim world needs to badly modernize and build weapons programs just like Iran and Turkey is doing.

 

[Khansaheeb]

Not as useless as the Arab world or Muslim world right now. Palestinians are dying everyday resisting while Muslim leaders voice their fake outrage.

Billions of dollars on shiny weapons with no balls to use them.

From Arab spring we need an Arab Bounce. Democracy must be the goal of the people.

 

[Khansaheeb]

Retreat from Gaza was a defeat for Israel:

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[Unknowntruth]

From Arab spring we need an Arab Bounce. Democracy must be the goal of the people.

The Muslim world needs unity, this is the entire issue. Even if one country takes any action, they will sanction it to death and force regime change. The Ottoman Empire was carved up and made into small states to be able to control Muslims. They are also building sectarian strife to keep Muslims fighting themselves.

These issues need to be remedied. Also Muslim countries need to invest in their own weapons programs and collaborate with one another like NATO/West does.

 

[Persian Gulf]

I didn’t say the PA has the right strategy, I am just saying they are right in one regard. How can they take on Israel without Muslim backing? As you see in Gaza, they will just massacre civilians and blame it on any resistance. The world saw the genocide live and nothing was done.


Do you know that people just criticizing the PA even just on social media are rounded up? People overseas are being intimidated with threats to their family for speaking out.

What happen in Jenin just recently? Didn’t the PA get in a shoot out with resistance groups?

Anyone that protests will be rounded up and tortured. PA fears an Israel intervention when these protests will lead to full intifada. Israel is already closing the checkpoints and preventing any movements. They will do what they are doing to Jenin but even worse if another protests/intifada happen. Israel has done a good job of separating resistance cells from being able to reinforce each other or move around.

The PA does not want to fight Israel and while I think the UN is useless, this is what they believe the right course of action. They know Israel will just demolish the West Bank and nothing will be gained while Israel has Western backing while Palestinians do not have full Muslim backing.


Without Muslim support, the Palestinian people will be lead to suicide. Other resistance movements have had outside support, Palestinians have very little support and especially when it comes to arms.


October 7 did show what Palestinian can do if they had the weapons to fight Israel. The problem is, what happened after? Gaza is rubble and a genocide on civilians. It was meant to wake up the Muslim world but alas it was futile.

You know what else it showed? That the entire Muslim world is worthless when a small group of fighters can breach Israel and wipe out an entire brigade on the borders. Many soldiers ran like the chickens they are.

Just imagine if Muslim armies with advanced weapons can do to this little nation with very little or incompetent soldiers.


I am not saying Iran and Yemen only abandon them. The entire Muslim world abandoned them. You need backing from Muslim powers to resist or even intervention.

Palestinians have no tanks, no fighter aircraft , no anti aircraft systems, etc Israel has shown that it will carpet bomb everything including civilians if it is threatened, will the Muslim world counter that?

No

That is the problem, the West protected Israel from genocide case to carry out their Genocide and Muslims did voiced condemnations.

Which one would you rather have?

Opposition to PA is not allowed, but protests against genocide is surely allowed. We see protestors in the West Bank recently chant in support of Hamas and Iran etc.

The crux of the matter is that if Palestinians in the West Bank and Jordan (you did not talk about Jordan) do not make sacrifices for the Palestinian cause, then why would other countries?

Otherwise I agree there is no doubt the majority of the muslim world has abandoned the Palestinians and are controlled by the USA.

Ideally Iran and Egypt and Saudi Arabia and Jordan and Turkey could work together to channel arms into Palestine and put pressure on Israel to accept a real Palestinian state. But they have to be willing to defy the US and put real pressure on Israel and the US. I only see Iran being willing to do this, because it is already sanctioned by the US so it doesn't have much more to lose compared to the others.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Hezb-Allah issues the following Statement:

Hezbollah extends its deepest condolences and congratulations to the mujahid brothers in the Hamas movement, to all the dear Palestinian resistance factions, and to the patient and mujahid Palestinian people on the martyrdom of the Chief of Staff of the "Al-Qassam Brigades" Muhammad al-Deif and a group of his senior comrades from the members of the Military Council. It extends its condolences to their honorable families, asking God Almighty to grant them patience, solace, and great reward.

We declare our pride in these honorable leaders who remained in the field of jihad and resistance until the last moments of their lives, and who offered their people everything they could in defense of their dignity and in order to restore their freedom and independence, headed by the great leader Muhammad al-Deif , who spent his life fighting the occupying Israeli enemy and made it taste the bitterness of defeat, especially in the Battle of the Flood of Al-Aqsa, of which he was the most prominent engineer and leader in the field, and he and his brothers will remain a symbol of the free people who will complete the path of resistance.

 

[Unknowntruth]

Opposition to PA is not allowed, but protests against genocide is surely allowed. We see protestors in the West Bank recently chant in support of Hamas and Iran etc.

That is not true, PA cracks down on any protests. They are known to round people up and torture them. They do not want Israeli intervention and will do anything to put down any protests.

The crux of the matter is that if Palestinians in the West Bank and Jordan (you did not talk about Jordan) do not make sacrifices for the Palestinian cause, then why would other countries?

Otherwise I agree there is no doubt the majority of the muslim world has abandoned the Palestinians and are controlled by the USA.

You think King of Jordan will let his country be destroyed when he knows damn well that no one will come to his defense?

Do you remember what happened on black September?

Ideally Iran and Egypt and Saudi Arabia and Jordan and Turkey could work together to channel arms into Palestine and put pressure on Israel to accept a real Palestinian state. But they have to be willing to defy the US and put real pressure on Israel and the US. I only see Iran being willing to do this, because it is already sanctioned by the US so it doesn't have much more to lose compared to the others.

Iran funds Hezbollah and propped up Bashar in Syria because it was in its own interests. I do not believe any country is willing to sacrifice themselves for a cause knowing full well no other Muslim nation will come to their aid. Muslim unity is needed before any action can be taken. I do not blame Iran but we saw how limited Iran is.

Residence groups hurt Israel economy and showed how weak they are. The problem is that Israel resorted to genocide and carpet bombing civilians. This shows that Muslim armies are needed. The field has to be leveled and the West will support Israel no matter what crimes or genocide they commit.

 

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