Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present

[Falcon29]

It would be very ironic if America got plunged into a civil war due to Trump administration rigging the general elections.

And Hamas outlived that. And Israel loses its baby daddy.

Then we may see the signs of God. That a people under genocide, seeking victory through him, end out on top by the end of this, and Israel, which seeks victory through America, is left to it's fate.

People outside of Gaza may have lost all hope for Gaza, in their hearts, genuinely. While soldiers of Gaza that have been living humble their whole lives and worshipping God, may have great hope in victory from God, and are more patient and have more positive outlook than us.

That is quite scary to think of, for those of us outside Gaza. If God grants them victory, it shows our hearts are in ruin and we're in a bad spiritual state. And can only hope God grants the privilege to repent and purify our hearts.

 

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People outside of Gaza may have lost all hope for Gaza, in their hearts, genuinely. While soldiers of Gaza that have been living humble their whole lives and worshipping God, may have great hope in victory from God, and are more patient and have more positive outlook than us.

That is quite scary to think of, for those of us outside Gaza. If God grants them victory, it shows our hearts are in ruin and we're in a bad spiritual state. And can only hope God grants the privilege to repent and purify our hearts.

Are you talking of victory for Hamas, or victory for the Palestinian people?

Hamas might be 'victorious' against Israel by not getting dismantled by them (that level of 'victory' in my opinion is a very low bar).

To be honest, as a well wisher for Palestinians; I only care about a victory for the Palestinian people. I don't care about victory or loss for Hamas, as long as there is victory for the Palestinian people. In my eyes, Palestinian people are not winning but losing.

But what is the price for the Palestinian people? Can you truly say that the Palestinian people are victorious in this conflict?

I find it disrespectful to the Gazan people that we talk about the resistance 'prevailing' over Israel, about Israel not achieving its war aims of defeating Hamas; when the genocidal entity keeps committing genocide against the Palestinian people, and no one stops them.

 

[Falcon29]

Are you talking of victory for Hamas, or victory for the Palestinian people?

Hamas might be 'victorious' against Israel by not getting dismantled by them (that level of 'victory' in my opinion is a very low bar).

But what is the price for the Palestinian people? Can you truly say that the Palestinian people are victorious in this conflict?

I find it disrespectful to the Gazan people that we talk about the resistance 'prevailing' over Israel, about Israel not achieving its war aims of defeating Hamas; when the genocidal entity keeps committing genocide against the Palestinian people, and no one stops them.

America is a sinking ship. You even as Indian in Canada should be worried. America won't get out 2025 without a major event. Israel will then have to persuade Europe to take it's side after having burnt them for so long, under auspices of baby daddy.

Israel will then have no choice but to pull out of Gaza and conserve its resources. Syrians, Yemeni's, Lebanese, Sudanese, Egyptians will all recover and capitalize on situation. Syria will unify as one country after US pulls out troops. Hezbollah will recover stronger than ever. Sudan will recover. Israel will go into a decline. And it won't be able to start wars effortlessly. The future is with the Palestinians for sure.

 

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America is a sinking ship. You even as Indian in Canada should be worried. America won't get out 2025 without a major event. Israel will then have to persuade Europe to take it's side after having burnt them for so long, under auspices of baby daddy.

Israel will then have no choice but to pull out of Gaza and conserve its resources. Syrians, Yemeni's, Lebanese, Sudanese, Egyptians will all recover and capitalize on situation. Syria will unify as one country after US pulls out troops. Hezbollah will recover stronger than ever. Sudan will recover. Israel will go into a decline. And it won't be able to start wars effortlessly. The future is with the Palestinians for sure.

What makes you think I am Indian?

We can only hope that the US self-sabotages everything to the point that it cannot support Israel. It can happen, but we are a long ways away from that.

Depending on other Arab nations to do anything for Palestinians is a fools wish. Syria will become the next Libya. Lebanon will be targeted next. Egypt and Jordan will maintain peaceful relations with Israel.

I would want nothing more than for the Palestinians to prevail, but please do not talk about Hamas's victory in Gaza, when the genocidal animals have caused so much pain and suffering to the people of Gaza. I find it disrespectful, and find it belittling the Gazan people.

 

[Falcon29]

In the next few weeks America will officially enter a economic depression. Hamas is patient and waiting for God's victory, sincerely.

The US will enter a civil war as Trump administration has already begun rigging general elections. It will happen before the presidential elections.

Americans mental state is beyond repair and MAGA has decided to destroy the country for a short term ego boost.

Israel is likely preparing for plan B right now and is not going to heavily escalate in Gaza.

 

[unconventional]

In the next few weeks America will officially enter a economic depression. Hamas is patient and waiting for God's victory, sincerely.

The US will enter a civil war as Trump administration has already begun rigging general elections. It will happen before the presidential elections.

Americans mental state is beyond repair and MAGA has decided to destroy the country for a short term ego boost.

Israel is likely preparing for plan B right now and is not going to heavily escalate in Gaza.

Really hope so!

 

[Falcon29]

What makes you think I am Indian

We can only hope that the US self-sabotages everything to the point that it cannot support Israel. It can happen, but we are a long ways away from that.

Depending on other Arab nations to do anything for Palestinians is a fools wish. Syria will become the next Libya. Lebanon will be targeted next. Egypt and Jordan will maintain peaceful relations with Israel.

I would want nothing more than for the Palestinians to prevail, but please do not talk about Hamas's victory in Gaza, when the genocidal animals have caused so much pain and suffering to the people of Gaza. I find it disrespectful, and find it belittling to the Gazan people.

It will be nothing short of a miracle if US collapses and Israel is forced into a corner. When only one year ago the US and Israel will acting like God's, along with other regional states spitting 24/7 propaganda against Hamas, and inciting violence against Palestinians. Hoping for Hamas to surrender to say they were victorious over Islam.

But Hamas soldiers love Islam more than our enemies hate Islam. And they're perservering. They are the people of Gaza.

This is a attempt to eliminate the last voice for Islam in the region. The Arabs got arrogant and prideful marketing this as a war on 'Muslim Brotherhood ' and thought they stamp it with a war on Hamas, eliminating it.

Al Tafa'aaah AlMansoorah are to their enemies Qahareen.

The power of God is great, he don't need to use much to show you how empires will fall in their own arrogance and pride. You wouldn't get it.

 

[Persian Gulf]

In the next few weeks America will officially enter a economic depression. Hamas is patient and waiting for God's victory, sincerely.

The US will enter a civil war as Trump administration has already begun rigging general elections. It will happen before the presidential elections.

Americans mental state is beyond repair and MAGA has decided to destroy the country for a short term ego boost.

Israel is likely preparing for plan B right now and is not going to heavily escalate in Gaza.

sorry but this is fairy tale stuff. economic depression? US GDP growth was just revised upwards while inflation remains very low at < 3% and unemployment is also historically low (4-4.2%).

 

[Falcon29]

Israel should make peace and withdraw from Gaza, better to do that before the ship sinks (USA).

I don't see Europeans entertaining Israel's antics. Especially after needing alternative to US in NATO (within 5-10 years as reported today).
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Dotan Halevi - Yedioth:
"There is no military solution for the Gaza Strip."
We've killed 50,000 people in Gaza so far in this war, and we still haven't found a military solution. From the generals' plan, to the humanitarian zones, from Philadelphi to Jabalia, Rafah again and Netzarim again. Our prisoners will die in the tunnels, and we still haven't found a solution. For 60 years we've known that there is no military solution in the Gaza Strip. And there never has been.

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[unconventional]

It will be nothing short of a miracle if US collapses and Israel is forced into a corner. When only one year ago the US and Israel will acting like God's, along with other regional states spitting 24/7 propaganda against Hamas, and inciting violence against Palestinians. Hoping for Hamas to surrender to say they were victorious over Islam.

But Hamas soldiers love Islam more than our enemies hate Islam. And they're perservering. They are the people of Gaza.

This is a attempt to eliminate the last voice for Islam in the region. The Arabs got arrogant and prideful marketing this as a war on 'Muslim Brotherhood ' and thought they stamp it with a war on Hamas, eliminating it.

Al Tafa'aaah AlMansoorah are to their enemies Qahareen.

The power of God is great, he don't need to use much to show you how empires will fall in their own arrogance and pride. You wouldn't get it.

Please read my other posts in this thread if you think I am against the resistance, or losing hope:

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Mar 28, 2025

You are missing a very important point that paralyses the whole Arab world's efforts..which is the internal Palestinian political conflict between the Palestinian authority and Hamas.. and most importantly their respective Arab and Muslim supporters.. add to it the main fact that Israel does not want any rapprochement between them..that is exactly the divide and reign theory and it is backed by no one less that the US itself..

This is like having a conflict inside the nucleus of an atom and everything around it is going bezerk.. while external forces encourage that conflict.. by all...

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Mar 27, 2025

More nonsense. Have you taken a look at a world map before? The US has bases in NATO-member state Turkey next door to Israel. 100's of bases in next door Europe. UK has their largest foreign base next door in Cyprus (far closer than most of the Arab states). The US/West is not dependant on a few military bases in the Arab world to protect/fight on behalf of Israel at all. Not the case previously either when there were no US bases in the Arab world.

I think you are living in some alternative universe where India is stronger than Israel/USA/West.

When I say the Arab world needs to...

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Mar 27, 2025

As noted before, Hamas or Palestinians do not provide any "value" to the US because they don't have industries that the US wants to tap and neither they offer anything strategically to the US. Israel might not be in the list of best American allies but Israel certainly provides much higher "value" to the US due to its industries, cultural exchanges, and willingness to host the US military.

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Mar 27, 2025

I am genuinely curious what you and other non-Arabs expect this "Arab world" (as in 20 + nation states each with 20 + distinct regimes and agendas) to do in order to FORCE upon Israel and de facto the entire US/West/NATO the creation of a Palestinian state?

How will you connect isolated Gaza with the remaining West Bank that each year is losing land to illegal settlements and itself has been a "Bantustan" for years upon years?

On the ground there is no concept of a unified West Bank.

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I am in favor of either a 1-state or a 2-state solution, but I am clear eyed about what needs to be done in each scenario without being overly emotional.

 

[Falcon29]

sorry but this is fairy tale stuff. economic depression? US GDP growth was just revised upwards while inflation remains very low at < 3% and unemployment is also historically low (4-4.2%).

You are thinking of year to date inflation, and not inflation over the last four years, which is much higher than normal levels. The US will enter a recession under Trump administration, if not a outright civil war.

Unemployment rate in America only counts people are getting unemployment benefits. And people working two jobs are counted as two people. The actual unemployment rate is higher.

 

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LOL.

 

[unconventional]

I don't care what you are. Who's side are you on? So far you've shown to be nothing but a anti-Hamas scoundrel.

You are just acting overly emotional. I am in favor of the resistance, if they can be victorious for the Palestinian people.

There are too many factors at play, that I have discussed in my posts in this thread, that are preventing a victory for the Palestinian people.

I think we need to remove these roadblocks first, if we want the Palestinian people to be victorious.

 

[Persian Gulf]

You are thinking of year to date inflation, and not inflation over the last four years, which is much higher than normal levels. The US will enter a recession under Trump administration, if not a outright civil war.

Unemployment rate in America only counts people are getting unemployment benefits. And people working two jobs are counted as two people. The actual unemployment rate is higher.

recession is one thing, and that is plausible (but not exactly novel or world ending), but depression is another thing altogether