Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present

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I don't think there is an iota of doubt left in anyone's mind that Israel is totally controlling the USA Govt and President, I mean if Trump was pushed around by anyone else he would've call them out in his belligerent way, but he is scared and totally compromised as was Biden and the next US president. At this point Palestinians have no other choice left, if they reject the plan they will be bombed again to a point where 50% of Gaza population will either be killed or injured, and IDF will control the Gaza anyway systematically kicking Gazan's out with America holding the world at gun point to not intervene.
 
I don't think there is an iota of doubt left in anyone's mind that Israel is totally controlling the USA Govt and President, I mean if Trump was pushed around by anyone else he would've call them out in his belligerent way, but he is scared and totally compromised as was Biden and the next US president. At this point Palestinians have no other choice left, if they reject the plan they will be bombed again to a point where 50% of Gaza population will either be killed or injured, and IDF will control the Gaza anyway systematically kicking Gazan's out with America holding the world at gun point to not intervene.

Good post, as sad as reading it was.
Those of us living in the comforts of our homes need to realize this is really a capitulation and not a surprise to me at all given the events starting late 2024: The election of Trump, the toppling of Assad, the retrenchment of Iran, the great reduction of Hezbollah; all that, on top of Israelis annihilating the Gazans, killing many on daily basis.
There will be no 'Gaza' if there are not enough Gazans are left. Nobody is coming to help them anymore--nobody!! There was a potent front till late 2024 but it has folded. So they save what they can and live to fight another day.
 
Hamas is just an excuse, they were slaughtering Palestinians before Hamas , they will slaughter Palestinians during Hamas and after Hamas, that's what criminals do, they will try and murder the victims of theft so they can't make a claim it back.
Look,they were going to enforce their plans for expansion anyway,but there's a difference.

In the late '90s and all through the Second Intifada,almost all Palestinian factions were involved in terrorist acts. I'm not talking about armed resistance,I'm not talking about army ambushes,I'm not talking about guerilla warfare. I'm talking about all the rest. While everybody else eventually "calmed down" or saw that it was fruitless,Hamas was the only one that kept doing it. What do I want to say,that Hamas has been a radical since the beginning. And their persistent attacks and stubborn idea of "either all of Palestine or nothing",caused way more suffering to the Palestinians.

Was there injustice before? Yes. Were Palestinians' lives very hard and complicated(checkpoints,discrimination,settlements inside the West Bank,army to protect the settlers,taking more land from Palestinians in cities like Hebron etc)? Yes!

But the "they slaughrering Palestinians before Hamas and during and after",the problem is that Hamas kept agigating the situation non-stop. They would fire random missiles and proclaim liberations and this and that. Then the IDF would bomb Gaza
kill a number of people,nothing was achieved but a bragging of Hamas being the dominant resistance power.

Hamas in part ENABLED the extremist elements in the Israeli State and society,to push on for more attacks,more raids,more settlements,more "final solution".

2007-2008,Hamas launches a coup and takes over the Gaza Strip. Eliminates Fatah,kills them,arrests them,tortures them. From then on,Hamas starts nonsensical attacks against Israel,which only cause retaliations every time.

It's Hamas that facilitated the extremist Zio plans to takeover Gaza.

So basically you don't know how things would have turned if there was a more peaceful approach,a more peaceful solution. The extreme violence towards Israeli civilians(yes
civilians,don't give me the "reservists" excuse),caused Israeli society and governments to build fences,then walls,be more trigger-happy,be more prejudiced,demand more action against militias and played right into the hands extreme right-wing Zionists who were only happy to bring more settlers from overseas and enable plans they'd hesitate to start if Palestinians were truly seen as ONLY the victims and not aggressors as well,by the international community.
 
Why are people wasting their time with this "plan"? Its a meaningless deflection. Its not even a plan, its a surrender or capitulation agreement that asks Palestinians to give up the idea of sovereignty. And Tony Blair leading a commitee? Are people actually serious with this?

This "plan" is just a meaningless idea of an extremely twisted and mentally ill man. This same idiot wanted to make Gaza into a Riviera and own Gaza as a personal resort. Remember the Trump Gaza AI video?

Any person or nation that endorses it just expose themselves.

A deranged manchild... who if his dad had done the right job would have put logic in this otherwise dumb privileged airhead. He singlehandedly caused deaths of hundreds of thousands in order to get Miliekowsky's plans through in a jiffy... Jared "beachfront" kushner ensured that...
 
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Let me get an answer to this.

If October 7 did not happen, would Israel still be expanding illegal settlements and butchering Palestinians in the West Bank?

Please read my posts again, you've missed the entire point.
 
They want the prisoners of war released in 72 hours and may likely break away from the agreement and resume their plans. They basically want Hamas to forfeit their only 1 hard leverage over Israel as soon as possible.

Western credibility is low, just ask Iran, Qatar, and Palestinians.
 

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Look,they were going to enforce their plans for expansion anyway,but there's a difference.

In the late '90s and all through the Second Intifada,almost all Palestinian factions were involved in terrorist acts. I'm not talking about armed resistance,I'm not talking about army ambushes,I'm not talking about guerilla warfare. I'm talking about all the rest. While everybody else eventually "calmed down" or saw that it was fruitless,Hamas was the only one that kept doing it. What do I want to say,that Hamas has been a radical since the beginning. And their persistent attacks and stubborn idea of "either all of Palestine or nothing",caused way more suffering to the Palestinians.

Was there injustice before? Yes. Were Palestinians' lives very hard and complicated(checkpoints,discrimination,settlements inside the West Bank,army to protect the settlers,taking more land from Palestinians in cities like Hebron etc)? Yes!

But the "they slaughrering Palestinians before Hamas and during and after",the problem is that Hamas kept agigating the situation non-stop. They would fire random missiles and proclaim liberations and this and that. Then the IDF would bomb Gaza
kill a number of people,nothing was achieved but a bragging of Hamas being the dominant resistance power.

Hamas in part ENABLED the extremist elements in the Israeli State and society,to push on for more attacks,more raids,more settlements,more "final solution".

2007-2008,Hamas launches a coup and takes over the Gaza Strip. Eliminates Fatah,kills them,arrests them,tortures them. From then on,Hamas starts nonsensical attacks against Israel,which only cause retaliations every time.

It's Hamas that facilitated the extremist Zio plans to takeover Gaza.

So basically you don't know how things would have turned if there was a more peaceful approach,a more peaceful solution. The extreme violence towards Israeli civilians(yes
civilians,don't give me the "reservists" excuse),caused Israeli society and governments to build fences,then walls,be more trigger-happy,be more prejudiced,demand more action against militias and played right into the hands extreme right-wing Zionists who were only happy to bring more settlers from overseas and enable plans they'd hesitate to start if Palestinians were truly seen as ONLY the victims and not aggressors as well,by the international community.
A fair assessment.

But please do not forget that Khahhahamas are a direct creation of the Israeli state and they have served their interests well. They are there to provide the precise cassus belli that you have elaborated on. The audit trail leads back to Tel Aviv, and groups like Kakkakahamas and I.S.I.S. actually serve their interests best without even realising it.

We knew this day would come as soon as the first pictures emerged of the events of Oct 7th. We knew it was a carefully constructed ruse and that rank and file idiots of Khahhahamas duly took the bait offered to them.
 
- Gaza was under siege for 17 years — no one had a plan to save it.

- There were 10,000 Palestinian prisoners in Israeli jails before October 7 — no one had a plan to free them.

- The whole world watched children starve in Gaza — no one had a plan to rescue them.

- Israel continues to occupy lands in the West Bank and Syria — no one had a plan to stop it.

Now, for just 20 Israeli hostages, suddenly everyone has a plan to save them.
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"He (Netanyahu) may also be trying to get Hamas to reject the deal"

Yes. Very astute observation.

He is absolutely trying to trap them and get them to reject the deal themselves, thus giving him just cause to vanquish the Palestinians.

If they play the game smartly they will accept the deal and hold them to their word exactly.
 
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