Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present
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Hakwa Nadro
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worse then what? you want Palestinians to accept the occupation and quietly fade away into the night without resisting because when they started resisting the whole worlds hypocrisy comes to light, now nobody wants to export democracy, freedom, women's rights etc. to the Arbs and Muslims when it is desperately needed by occupied Palestine.I'm saying Hamas kept making things worse. Wake up. Your knights inn shining armor only care for their Muslim Brotherhood dream for Palestine.
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gamaji
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Did you watch news on CNN, Al Jazeera, BBC, or Israeli news channels? If not, please do that. The war criminal Netanyahu apologized for the attack on Qatar and also for killing a Qatari security guard.
gamaji
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Pak certainly should.
Pakistan may send troops to Palestine as part of Gaza peacekeeping force: Dar | The Express Tribune
DPM also defends eight-country West Bank pact, slams critics for politicising: Do they want bloodshed to continue?tribune.com.pk
Pakistan might get involved.
gamaji
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It is indeed encouraging that the peace plan presented the US president, Donald Trump, at least aims at stopping the continued Palestinians' bloodshed and genocide by the Zionist war criminals and that too within days rather than weeks or months.
The apologizing phone call made by a previously arrogant and fascist murderer, Netanyahu, to the Qatari PM right from the White House amply demonstrates that President Trump means the business and has the required will and power to deliver peace to the Palestinian people.
However, while this peace plan is an excellent first step, certain deficiencies in it are clearly visible. A few aspects that have either been completely ignored or partially addressed in this plan are listed below.
The apologizing phone call made by a previously arrogant and fascist murderer, Netanyahu, to the Qatari PM right from the White House amply demonstrates that President Trump means the business and has the required will and power to deliver peace to the Palestinian people.
However, while this peace plan is an excellent first step, certain deficiencies in it are clearly visible. A few aspects that have either been completely ignored or partially addressed in this plan are listed below.
gamaji
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1. Hamas should be allowed to surrender its arms only to the international peace force as proposed in the peace plan. No one really should expect Hamas to give up its arms while Zionists are still present in parts of Gaza. It is indeed unfair to ask one warring side to disarm without a protective shield (as promised in other clauses of the plan) while the other side is still posing a grave threat to the lives of the members of the disarmed side. That will be equivalent to a man with his hands fully tied thrown in front of wild dogs.
With all Israeli captives already released by Hamas, the Zionist forces will certainly murder all those who get exposed while surrendering their arms.
2. It is a known fact that all Palestinians currently imprisoned in Israeli jails are there just because they were struggling for their rights and freedom. They are no criminals. While Hamas will be releasing all Israelis who are in its captivity, Israel too must release all Palestinian prisoners currently in its custody. Specifying a certain number of Palestinians to be released while keeping the remaining ones in continued Israeli imprisonment is illogical and unfair.
gamaji
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3. There must be a new clause that explicitly accepts a two-state solution in accordance with the related UN resolutions. Why has this not been included in the peace plan? Now that President Trump really wants to get this issue resolved (and TBH, among all current world leaders, only he is in a position to do that), he should clearly declare that he rejects Israeli expansionist policy and also include a clause in his plan declaring that the state of Israel will be confined to its pre-1967 war borders.
4. While the details and specifics of the deployment of peace force in Gaza are expected to be defined later, the current peace plan must include a clause stating that any Israel attack on the members of that peace force will not be allowed at any price or justification. A crisis resolution body must be created that will be responsible for investigating and resolving any issues, complaints, and violations of the peace accord.
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gamaji
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So, in your filthy nature, you are more interested in what Pak is accepting or not rather than caring for the hundred or so lives being lost almost daily in Palestine?
Bharatah
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The media and Trump are lying, and (as Strange As It May Seem) Netanyahu is telling the truth. Trump's plan doesn't mention anything about a "Palestinian state" or that Israel must leave Gaza. It's a classic surrender to the Palestinian people, who would be occupied by Israel, the US, and England, with a British dictator like Tony Blair. That's Trump's plan. Genocide will continue(like em Lebanon and Syria and Lybia, maybe even worst).Netanyahu Made Major Changes to Trump’s Gaza Plan, Infuriating Arab Leaders: Report
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Washington (QNN)- Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has reportedly made significant changes to the Gaza plan presented by President Trump on Monday, angering Arab officials involved in the negotiations.
Axios reported on Tuesday, citing sources familiar with the process, that Israel, the US and its Arab partners were all aligned on a final plan.
While Trump and Netanyahu were discussing the plan on camera at the White House, Qatari Prime Minister Mohammed bin Abdulrahman al-Thani was presenting it to Hamas leaders in Doha, a source with knowledge said.
The deal now before Hamas is significantly different from the one the US and a group of Arab and Muslim countries had previously agreed on, due to Netanyahu’s intervention.
On Sunday, White House envoy Steve Witkoff and Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner met for six hours with Netanyahu and his confidant Ron Dermer.
Netanyahu managed to negotiate several edits into the text, in particular on the conditions and timetable for Israel’s withdrawal from Gaza.
The new proposal ties Israel’s withdrawal to the progress of disarming Hamas, and gives Israel a veto over the process, Axios reported.
Even if all conditions are met and three phases of withdrawal are completed, Israeli forces will still remain within a security perimeter inside Gaza “until Gaza is properly secure from any resurgent terror threat.” That could mean indefinitely.
According to Axios, officials from Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Jordan and Turkey were furious over the changes.
The Qataris even tried to convince the Trump administration not to release the detailed plan on Monday due to those objections. The White House released it anyway, and pushed the Arab and Muslim countries to support the plan.
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Netanyahu stated that the military will “remain in most of the Gaza Strip,” contradicting the Trump-proposed plan.
“We will recover all our hostages, alive and well, while the [Israeli military] will remain in most of the Gaza Strip,” said Netanyahu in a video shared earlier on Tuesday morning during which he also added that the plan has “turned the tables and isolated Hamas” with terms favourable to Israel.
However, his statement appears to contradict the details of the Trump plan, which stipulates that “Israel will not occupy or annex Gaza” and that its military will gradually withdraw until fully pulled out, except for a temporary security-perimeter presence.
Point 3 of what was then a 21-point plan reported by The Times of Israel stated that “Israeli forces will withdraw to the battle lines as of when the [US special envoy Steve] Witkoff proposal was presented to prepare for hostage release.”
It didn’t specify which Witkoff proposal, even though there have been several. But the updated version published on Monday by the White House stated that “Israeli forces will withdraw to the agreed-upon line.”
It reportedly appeared to refer to a new map that was included in the updated version that illustrated three phases of Israeli withdrawals from Gaza.
As Netanyahu mentions in his video, the map shows that Israeli troops will be able to remain in the majority of the Gaza Strip even after the first pullback of Israeli forces in preparation for all of the captives to be released.
They will then be able to remain in those positions until the International Stabilization Force (ISF) of Arab and Muslim countries is prepared to deploy, the plan states.
Even after the second phase of the withdrawal, the forces will remain in over a third of the Strip, the map indicates.
The third withdrawal will clear the final forces out of Gaza, but the map shows that a security buffer zone will be established along the perimeter of the entire Strip.
Point 16 of the original US plan stated that the forces “will progressively hand over the Gaza territory that [it] occup[ies].”
But the updated version adds two lines that further qualify the nature of the withdrawal in Israel’s favor, stating that the forces “will withdraw based on standards, milestones, and timeframes linked to demilitarization that will be agreed upon between the IDF, ISF, the guarantors, and the US.”
“Practically, the IDF will progressively hand over the Gaza territory it occupies to the ISF according to an agreement they will make with the transitional authority until they are withdrawn completely from Gaza, save for a security perimeter presence that will remain until Gaza is properly secure from any resurgent terror threat,” the updated plan adds.
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Hamas has affirmed its “readiness to positively and responsibly consider any proposals received from the mediators, in a way that safeguards the national rights of our people,” including ending the ongoing genocide.
Qatar and Egypt handed the proposal to Hamas on Monday, and “the group’s negotiating delegation promised to study it responsibly,” foreign ministry spokesman Majed al-Ansari told a press conference.
Opposition leader Yair Lapid said afterwards: “Netanyahu says ‘yes’ when he’s in front of the cameras in Washington, then says ‘but’ when he returns and insists that this should not happen now.”
The 20-point plan also says: “While Gaza re-development advances and when the PA reform program is faithfully carried out, the conditions may finally be in place for a credible pathway to Palestinian self-determination and statehood, which we recognise as the aspiration of the Palestinian people.”
However, Netanyahu also insisted the plan does not mean Palestinian statehood, and that Israel will “forcibly resist” the idea
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Their idea was for this plan to be approved behind the scenes while the media reported that there would be a Palestinian state and that Israel would leave Gaza. That's why Trump and the media said these things...but because Netanyahu is a big talker, he ended up breaking their own narrative by revealing that it's an Israeli occupation and victory. He also says there will never be a Palestinian state.
NOTE: Again, I've talked about this before in the "KSA-Pakistan agreement" case... they're doing what I call "PROPAGANDA 2.0," which is inverting the information. The pro-Zionist agenda continues, but now they're promoting it as if it were pro-Palestine. This agreement is to save Israel, not the Palestinian people, who will continue to be killed, militarily occupied, and without a state.
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Bharatah
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No, Trump's proposed plan does not address any issues that "at least aim at stopping the continued Palestinian bloodshed and genocide by Zionist war criminals." The plan states that:
- Israel, US, England will occupy Gaza
- Israel can act militarily whenever he wants (as he does in Syria or Lebanon), he is not obliged by the document to stop the attacks. And he can even redefine the map of the region if he wants.
- There is no Palestinian state
- Gaza administered by genocidal Tony Blair!
- PALESTINIAN DISARMAMENT
- Netanyahu's arrest at the ICC will be annulled, and Palestinians will have to say he never commits genocide !
The plan touted by the Jewish-Zionist media as "Trump's peace plan" does not exist, it's a plan to help Israel and not the Palestinians; it's a surrender with foreign occupation and the right to a proxy in the region, "Roman Empire" style.
Unknowntruth
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Do you actually believe he gave a crap?
Would you like another apology once he does it again? I’m sure he can hand out a few more if it pleases you lol.
If a worthless apology means something to you, I don’t know what to tell you.
Abdul q
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Here comes faojeet… i m always successful in luring these sub-humans
Khansaheeb
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Trump is Netanyahu's mouthpiece and does what he is told. Why the Palestinians are participating in talks with the US who have nothing but brought slaughter and genocide to them is beyond belief.
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