Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present

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White people still doing more than brown crappy people... Like Maryam, Nawaz, Zardari, Bilawal Pakistan Fauj
Pakistani Mullahs....

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[Antonius123]

For which sin, zionist zombies massacred 50,000 people ?!

29782 tolls as per today, not 50,000.

Sin of hamas.

 

[Raiden]

I dont think Muslim hate Jews since many of our prophets are Jews including Isa/Jesus.

Jews has similar Tauhid belief like Muslim.

The hate is only due to how they treat Palestinians. Just person will hate both Israel hardliner and Hamas who dont bother targeting civilians.

Muslims do hate jews, as a muslim myself I testify to this.

In fact every day we pray to Allah to please do not make us like the Jews. Every time we pray we say this in our prayer to remind us that they are not our friend/ally/brother whatsoever

ṣirāṭallażīna an'amta 'alaihim gairil-magḍụbi 'alaihim wa laḍ-ḍāllīn

"(God) do not make us like people whom you anger and let astray (ie. Jews and Christians)

And the Gaza war will make sure this hatred to be nurtured. Now that we have video footage to remind what kind of barbarians these Jews are.

 

[Indos]

Muslims do hate jews, as a muslim myself I testify to this.

In fact every day we pray to Allah to please do not make us like the Jews. Every time we pray we say this in our prayer to remind us that they are not our friend/ally/brother whatsoever

ṣirāṭallażīna an'amta 'alaihim gairil-magḍụbi 'alaihim wa laḍ-ḍāllīn

"(God) do not make us like people whom you anger and let astray (ie. Jews and Christians)

And the Gaza war will make sure this hatred to be nurtured. Now that we have video footage to remind what kind of barbarians these Jews are.

You are Indian Hindus from your previous behavior in old PDF

 

[Raiden]

You are Indian Hindus from your previous behavior in old PDF

No, I'm a Muslim.

But I don't sugar coat my religion.

 

[Raiden]

These can be negotiated with Israel.

But the root cause still remains: "the disagreement of the presence of the Jews in the middle east" is not in your mind alone, but still remains in many Arabs and Palestinians, and many muslims in the world.

Yes, we want them out, back to Europe.

This will make the conflict between Palestine and Israel still continue ... although Israel has granted all you wish as mentioned above in the next accord.

Indeed it will continue, and I wish it to continue

There are verses that can be interpreted as antisemits in their holybook, and many muslims believe they will have battle with jews and exterminate them in the endtime war even till jews run and hide behind gharkad tree.

Bingo, here it is the 'holy book' youre talking about

Concerning the Hadith: 'You will fight against the Jews and you will gain victory over them.'

Is the Hadith that says: 'There will come a day when Muslims will gain victory over the Jews, and then a stone behind which a Jew may hide, will speak and ca...

alsalafiyyah.github.io

Yes, we will finish them. So me, a Muslim when I saw the escalation of violence between us and the Jews of Israel :

1. get saddened by the tragedy
2. get excited because indeed little by little the promise of the prophet is getting near

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For my Muslim brothers and sisters, do not be disheartened by the humanitarian tragedy in Gaza, for indeed our prophet Muhammad was also besieged and starved in Medina to the point where he had to tie a rock to his belly. Allah rewarded him and his followers Persia, the Levant and Egypt not long after. So be patient, every gain comes after pain.

 

[Raiden]

Art of War. Go read it first.

I'm not here to explain how Modern Day Warfare works to a TTA.

Or the benefits of the current war to the Palestinian Cause. The results talk themselves.

I will tell you the benefit of the Hamas attack. Maybe @Indos never think this far

Before the Hamas attack, the Israelis are winning in everything:

• they had just successfully kicked the Palestinians from their homes in 1948 (the Nakba)
• they have won the war with the Arabs and even finally able to make some Arab nations (Egypt, Jordan) to recognize them, thereby giving them relieve they desperately crave, for the first time in millennia, the Jews has their homeland and their homeland is safe from external attacks
• Not only that, the manpower and energy that was previosuly used to secure the border from foreign aggressors could be re-directed inward, to expand israeli settlement inside Palestinian land
• Then they secure relationships with Qatar, UAE, Morocco, Bahrain...the list of Arab-Muslim countries just keep on increasing, legitimizing their occupation of Palestine

But this surely is not complete, because the Palestinian issue is either an issue for :

• Arabs nationalists
• Muslims

The Arab nationalists have been successfully subdued, with the recognition of Israel in the Camp David Accords followed by the waves of 'normalization' later on, but not the Muslims. Because the Muslims are not just Arabs, there are Turks, Bangladeshis, Indonesians, and Malaysians. There's always a possibility that these non-Arab Muslims could be a headache for the Israeli occupation in the future.

Just before the Hamas attack, the Israelis are this close



Into total political victory against the Palestinians when the rumor that Saudi Arabia (considered to be the leader of the Muslim world due to their ownership of the 2 holy cities) are going to normalize with Israel, in line with the 'de-Islamization drive' of Bin Salman and his gang. And we (back then) knew that this is just a matter of time.

If Saudi Arabia eventually normalizes, then it is 99.999% guaranteed that Indonesia will be next in line to recognize israel.

Now you have :

1. Saudi Arabia, the custodian of the two holy cities and de-facto leader of Sunni Islam
2. Indonesia, the largest country by Muslim population

And Israel political victory against Palestine is complete because if these two eventually normalize, there's very little incentive for other Muslim countries not to normalize.

Why is the Muslim world important ? Why spend the effort for the likes of Indonesia, a country thousands of miles away that lacked the projecting power to shape the Middle East?

Simple, because of the two, I listed before (Arabs and Islam). The Israelis recognize that their long-term threat is not those looney (secular) Arabs nationalists, but it's Islam. Especially their youths.

In recent times, there has been some sort of 'return to religion' movements sweeping around the Muslim world.

Many of these Muslims who lived in demographically Muslims nation, but ruled by secular rulers and rules are now figuring out that they NEED Islam, following Islam is suddenly cool again after the mass secularization that happened in Muslim lands in the 1950s-2000s. And with that, the rise of political Islam.

Political Islam is the biggest long term threat to Israel, because had the balance of power turn, and the Islamic world eventually regain their position back on top like it used to, it is these political Islamists that will sure turn the energy and potential of Muslims all around the world towards the destruction of the state of Israel.

This alarms Israel so much because, unlike Arab nationalists who they could just negotiate with, they could not negotiate Palestine with Muslims. Palestine is home to the third holiest site in Islam which is Jerusalem and it Aqsa complex, the first Qibla where Muslim first prayed. No amount of money and worldly benefits offered by Washington could buy that, they could not replicate a David accord with the Muslims.

So this is where Saudi Arabia comes in.

As we all know, Saudi Arabia is exporting its version of Islam, the Salafism/some call it Wahabbism. Salafism is many, but one of the more prominent one coming from (and exported by) Saudi Arabia is a sect called the Madkhalism. Madkhalism put heavy emphassis on Sami'na wastato'na (we hear and we obey the ruler).

Madkhalism offered the Israelis a chance to steer the 1.5B muslims world wide into accepting their occupation of Palestine, even if the Muslim doesn't want to.

This is a piece by an Israeli newspaper, The Times of Israel called ' Is Madkhalism a friend of Israel ?'

https://muslimskeptic.com/2023/12/29/madkhalis-friends-of-israel/

Which argues that Madkhalism will help them secure their occupation of Palestine without worry, simply because the Madkhalis will accept anything that a Muslim ruler does, including normalizing with Israel.

The brilliant Hamas attacks prevented all those from happening. The Muslims will not accept anything the Madkhalis spew in regards to normalization to Israel and neither will acts of 'friendships' like this below will be tolerated by the public, at least for 50-100 years to come.

Not after the barbaric Israeli attacks on civilians in Gaza

So yes, Hamas attacks pays off.

The long term implication of this attacks will be appreciated by Arabs and Muslims worldwide long into the future

 

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[Antonius123]

Yes, we want them out, back to Europe.

Indeed it will continue, and I wish it to continue


Bingo, here it is the 'holy book' youre talking about

Concerning the Hadith: 'You will fight against the Jews and you will gain victory over them.'

Is the Hadith that says: 'There will come a day when Muslims will gain victory over the Jews, and then a stone behind which a Jew may hide, will speak and ca...

alsalafiyyah.github.io

Yes, we will finish them. So me, a Muslim when I saw the escalation of violence between us and the Jews of Israel :

1. get saddened by the tragedy
2. get excited because indeed little by little the promise of the prophet is getting near

-
For my Muslim brothers and sisters, do not be disheartened by the humanitarian tragedy in Gaza, for indeed our prophet Muhammad was also besieged and starved in Medina to the point where he had to tie a rock to his belly. Allah rewarded him and his followers Persia, the Levant and Egypt not long after. So be patient, every gain comes after pain.

Thanks for being honest about it.

So it is obvious that war against Israel is indeed what Palestine and muslim desire to have, and I have explained this quite often but many participants here especially @Unknowntruth deny that and circling around saying it is what Israel desire.

This desire of course against humanity and world desire for peace and justice. Of course justice meant here is not according to your/their ideology.

 

[Raiden]

Thanks for being honest about it.

So it is obvious that war against Israel is indeed what Palestine and muslim desire to have, and I have explained this quite often but many participants here deny that and circling around saying it is what Israel desire.

This desire of course against humanity and world desire for peace and justice. Of course justice meant here is not according to your/their ideology.

Yes, it is a war to :

1. Reclaim Muslim land that is lost to the enemy
2. Restore justice
3. Restore the dignity of Islam and the Aqsa mosque
4. To fulfill what our prophet has promised us (the earlier stones and trees you're talking about), because indeed our prophet never lied and I pray it is my generation that will deliver those promises.

 

[Antonius123]

Yes, it is a war to :

1. Reclaim Muslim land that is lost to the enemy
2. Restore justice
3. Restore the dignity of Islam and the Aqsa mosque
4. To fulfill what our prophet has promised us (the earlier stones and trees you're talking about), because indeed our prophet never lied and I pray it is my generation that will deliver those promises.

In that case peace negotiation and cease fire are not needed.

You/they don't need world compassion either... as this is the war they desire so much?

 

[Raiden]

In that case peace negotiation and cease fire are not needed.

You/they don't need world compassion either... as this is the war they desire so much?

Uhh, my personal opinion is that the talks of ceasefire is past it's use. Think about it this way, Israel is a country built on might is right. Once those might is gone, which they will eventually. Then there will be no rights at all for them. For a country like Israel, dependent on the power they borrow from the Western powers, the moment the West ceases to exist as a global power and retreated back like all empires do, that will be the end for them as well.

I pity them because unlike us, Muslims. Jews are not built to absorb losses. The Muslims are a nation of 1.5 billion (and growing), Jews are a mere 15 million, and half of the entire Jews are in that tiny strip of land called Israel, surrounded by hostile Muslims.

And we will be brutal with them once the time comes, as our prophet promised us in the hadith you mention (the Ghargad tree).

 

[Khorasan Black Flags]

Yemen and Hezbollah are doing pretty well