Raj-Hindustani
Elite Member
And which study tell you this?
IWT.
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PAKISTANFOREVER
Trusted Member
NO worries. If it comes to war for the survival of the Pakistani people, we will give the indians a war for the survival of our race and nation. If we go down, we will wipe the indians off the face of the earth too. Our nukes serve a purpose.
hydrabadi_arab
SpeedLimited
All dams eventually loss storage capacity to silt and debris.
Raj-Hindustani
Elite Member
Yaar - I just asked which study says, only 5 % water can diverted.
Rest leave it - no one cares - what if someone says - we can do this or that.. I can only say - best wishes for it
hydrabadi_arab
SpeedLimited
India can divert 5% of Chenab water with Ranbir canal extension. It will need 0.5 MAF of water. Its in the OP.
Sami_1
Registered Member
India has already begun to implement its will to gradually cut off water to Pakistan because India wants a new round of military conflict after its defeat last May. I even heard a Pakistani analyst predict the next war within 6 months, so perhaps the Pakistani silence means that war is coming inevitably. For this reason, Pakistan is trying to accelerate its armament and provide ammunition for the next war. India wants revenge for its dignity and honor, which it believes has been violated. It believes that it needs time for this. According to the water issue, it is justified, although the Pakistanis spoke badly and said that we are not like Egypt, which did nothing with Ethiopia, although Egypt tampered with the construction of the Ethiopian dam and started civil wars. Every day, the Ethiopian army loses dozens of its soldiers, and Ethiopia is besieged by Egyptian military bases. At the same time, Egypt expanded in obtaining enough fighters to carry out strikes against all Ethiopian dams. The whole matter for the Egyptians is that they choose the appropriate reinforcement, and we believe that The future conflict between Pakistan and India will depend on who wins to solve the water problem or complicate it by the end of this year or next year. In general, water conflicts were created by the West to ignite the fuel of war between peoples, and the smart one is the one who emerges safe and sound without losses.
Raj-Hindustani
Elite Member
According to officials familiar with the discussions and documents, the proposed expansion would increase the volume of water diverted through the canal from the current 40 cubic meters per second to as much as 150 cubic meters per second, the report said.
Anyway - I believe these are just pressure tactics as of now
ghazi52
THINK TANK: CONSULTANT
Addressing the second trilateral summit in Lachin city of Azerbaijan, the prime minister referred to the recent aggression of India and said that with Allah Almighty's infinite blessings and kindness, with the support of people of Pakistan, and friendly countries, and resolute response of the armed forces, they emerged victorious.
In his speech, the prime minister further said that Pakistan wanted peace in the region and that required talks on the table to discuss the issues that needed urgent attention and amicable solution like the issue of Kashmir which should be resolved according to the UNSC resolutions and as per aspiration of the people of Kashmir.
The prime minister said unfortunately, India tried to weaponise the Indus Waters Treaty which was a lifeline for the 240 million population of Pakistan that used the water for agriculture, drinking and other purposes.
"It is most unfortunate that India tried to threaten to stop the flow of water into Pakistan. This is not possible, this is never possible and will not be possible Insha'Allah. We are making proper arrangements to ensure that India never ever does it," he emphatically maintained.
The prime minister said if India wanted to talk on countering terrorism with sincerity of purpose, Pakistan would be willing to talk to them on this issue as well.
In his speech, the prime minister further said that Pakistan wanted peace in the region and that required talks on the table to discuss the issues that needed urgent attention and amicable solution like the issue of Kashmir which should be resolved according to the UNSC resolutions and as per aspiration of the people of Kashmir.
The prime minister said unfortunately, India tried to weaponise the Indus Waters Treaty which was a lifeline for the 240 million population of Pakistan that used the water for agriculture, drinking and other purposes.
"It is most unfortunate that India tried to threaten to stop the flow of water into Pakistan. This is not possible, this is never possible and will not be possible Insha'Allah. We are making proper arrangements to ensure that India never ever does it," he emphatically maintained.
The prime minister said if India wanted to talk on countering terrorism with sincerity of purpose, Pakistan would be willing to talk to them on this issue as well.
ACE OF HEARTS
Registered Member
Treaty or no treaty, Negotiations or restraint, or legal challenges in international forums, means that the traitors in Pakistan are only giving more time, to our enemies in the east, to run Pakistan's fertile land dry forever.
The enemy only listens to hard power that which also from countries like China. When it comes to Pakistan, the enemy knows that compromised politicians, dual citizen bureaucrats and foreign franchise owners, are great assets for destroying Pakistan.
Operation Sindoor is not over, is ongoing, but the speed with which the highest rank is awarded to the servants of the people, only proves that self glory / pride is more important, rather than securing the lifeline / jugular vein of Pakistan first.
Restraint only gives more time to the enemy, to come back at Pakistan quicker and more harder than before.
The servants of the people don't show restraint when the public was throwing fire crackers and rocks, at their prestigious buildings, then how come restraint is shown to your enemy since Independence, seven decades ago.
An enemy who cut you in half, who has done everything it can to cripple and destroy Pakistan from outside and from within, to this esteemed and Honourable enemy, how can you show restraint ?
The enemy only listens to hard power that which also from countries like China. When it comes to Pakistan, the enemy knows that compromised politicians, dual citizen bureaucrats and foreign franchise owners, are great assets for destroying Pakistan.
Operation Sindoor is not over, is ongoing, but the speed with which the highest rank is awarded to the servants of the people, only proves that self glory / pride is more important, rather than securing the lifeline / jugular vein of Pakistan first.
Restraint only gives more time to the enemy, to come back at Pakistan quicker and more harder than before.
The servants of the people don't show restraint when the public was throwing fire crackers and rocks, at their prestigious buildings, then how come restraint is shown to your enemy since Independence, seven decades ago.
An enemy who cut you in half, who has done everything it can to cripple and destroy Pakistan from outside and from within, to this esteemed and Honourable enemy, how can you show restraint ?
El Sidd
Elite Member
This ain't some Indian folklore that Brahmins stopped Dalit water and a thousand Mahabhrata episodes that follow it.
Trade economics or even territorial gains are pressure tactics. Stopping water is genocidal tactic.
Please don't choose war.
ghazi52
THINK TANK: CONSULTANT
Pakistan hails Hague court’s supplemental award in Indus Waters case, says India can’t sideline arbitration process
Tahir Sherani | Dawn.com
June 27, 2025
An image of the Peace Palace in The Hague, the Netherlands, where the Permanent Court of Arbitration holds a seat. — Permanent Court of Arbitration
Pakistan on Friday welcomed the decision by the Permanent Court of Arbitration (PCA) in The Hague to issue a “Supplemental Award of Competence” in the Indus Waters case, stating that India cannot unilaterally hold the treaty in abeyance, a statement issued by the government said.
According to the PCA’s rules, a supplemental award is an additional ruling issued by a court or tribunal after its initial decision, usually to address a specific issue that wasn’t fully resolved or to clarify certain points, such as jurisdiction, competence, or interpretation of a treaty or agreement.
India in April held the Indus Waters Treaty in abeyance following the attack in occupied Kashmir’s Pahalgam that killed 26 — an incident New Delhi blamed on Islamabad without evidence. Pakistan termed any attempt to suspend its water share an “act of war”, noting the IWT had no provision for unilateral suspension. It later said it was considering court action, citing a violation of the 1969 Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties.
According to the government’s statement, Pakistan welcomed the PCA’s decision and stated that the court affirmed its competence despite India’s unilateral action against the IWT.
“Pakistan looks forward to receiving the Court’s Award on the First Phase on the Merits in due course following the hearing that was held in Peace Palace in The Hague in July 2024,” the statement read.
“The high priority, at this point, is that India and Pakistan find a way back to a meaningful dialogue, including on the application of the Indus Waters Treaty,” the government said, reiterating remarks made by Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif that Pakistan was “ready to engage in a meaningful dialogue with India on all outstanding issues, including Jammu and Kashmir, water, trade and terrorism”.
Meanwhile, the Indian Ministry for External Affairs (MEA) “categorically rejected” the PCA’s supplemental award and stated that it did not recognise the court itself, according to Indian newspaper The Hindu.
“India has never recognised the existence in law of this so-called Court of Arbitration, and India’s position has all along been that the constitution of this so-called arbitral body is in itself a serious breach of the Indus Waters Treaty and consequently any proceedings before this forum and any award or decision taken by it are also for that reason illegal and per se void,” the ministry maintained.
ghazi52
THINK TANK: CONSULTANT
‘The treaty remains in force’
According to a press release from the PCA, the court found that it was not open to India to unilaterally suspend the IWT or hold it in abeyance.“The Court first considered the terms of the Treaty (IWT), which do not provide for the unilateral ‘abeyance’ or ‘suspension’ of the Treaty; rather, according to its terms, the Treaty continues in force until terminated with the mutual consent of India and Pakistan,” the press release read.
“The Court found that the terms of the Treaty, read in light of the Treaty’s object and purpose, do not allow either Party, acting unilaterally, to hold in abeyance or suspend an ongoing dispute settlement process, given that to do so would fundamentally undermine ‘the value and efficacy of the Treaty’s compulsory third-party dispute settlement process’.”
During the court proceedings, the PCA noted that it was not open to India to unilaterally hold the IWT in abeyance “regardless of how India’s position was characterised or justified under international law”.
