Japanese set fire to mosque

[Vikramaditya1]

Jinnah was right. To the letter. We are fundamentally different.

We believe in accepting our past realities. Hindustan does not. Hindustan feels an urge to undo history. So be it.

You can't pick and choose what Jinnah meant when your national character, your entire existence is build on it. If only he had the foresight, but then again I wouldn't blame him, he did a great job with what he had 90% of the country was illiterate they wouldn't be bothered about muh civilization they only care about simple Hindu-Muslim.
And that's why you are finding it difficult to properly claim a place in the civilizational state. A section in Pakistan will always object to it and you are only a cog in the wheel while they are the charioteer.

 

[Watandar]

Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism and Sikhism originated in India. Islam and Christianity did not.

This is not a statement against Islam or Christianity. We simply do not see the Christian world or the Muslim world as an extension of Hindu civilisation. There is also no intent to expand India’s borders to include any country within the Indian Union.

We are proud of every religion that originated within the boundaries of India, just as Arabs are proud of Islam and Europe is proud of Christianity.

Islam is indigenous to India as it has been part of the fabric for over 1000 years. Hinduism is based on discrimination so I do get why you come up with criteria to exclude Muslims.

 

[Feroze]

It was wrong to set fire to the mosque in Japan.

But then it is Japan, mostly a Buddhist and Shinto country.

They probably have no to little understanding of Islam.

 

[Master Chief]

You can't pick and choose what Jinnah meant when your national character, your entire existence is build on it. If only he had the foresight, but then again I wouldn't blame him, he did a great job with what he had 90% of the country was illiterate they wouldn't be bothered about muh civilization they only care about simple Hindu-Muslim.
And that's why you are finding it difficult to properly claim a place in the civilizational state. A section in Pakistan will always object to it and you are only a cog in the wheel while they are the charioteer.

Where did i "Pick and choose"? Have you misread my post?

He had the foresight to know Golwalkar's intentions long before 1947 and to know furthermore that NO amount of Ncert education would correct the mind of the Indian hindu with regards to those intentions - you are our forum's most prominent exemplar of this, congrats on your "incorrigibility". Jinnah figured it all out in the nick of time. Churchill, Nehru, Gandhi and others also knew, interestingly enough. Jinnah acted on this foresight.

We don't care btw about "hindu-muslim"; we care about a safe haven for the south Asian musulman and his rightful legacy. That is all there is to Pakistan - it is no great mystery. All are welcome there as long as they are happy to not smash up our stuff.

Indeed, there are more hindus in Pakistan than in Europe and USA combined (not counting all those student visa elopers of course which might give Europe, USA the edge!). Those Pakistani hindus remain under threat from the multitude hostile actions of Hindustan and we shall protect them and anyone else in our citadel with everything we have.

 

[Master Chief]

It was wrong to set fire to the mosque in Japan.

But then it is Japan, mostly a Buddhist and Shinto country.

They probably have no to little understanding of Islam.

It was 1 incident by, afaik, 1 single delusional person. I really don't see what the fuss is about. It's hardly worth opening a thread over. Japan has plenty of actual problems to deal with, especially with US marines raping and murdering their women, which is ongoing btw, not some distant 1980s historical matter.

Growing outrage in Japan after US Marine arrested in woman’s killing

The 20-year-old soldier denies the charge as protests held on Okinawa and in Tokyo.

www.aljazeera.com

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

It was wrong to set fire to the mosque in Japan.

But then it is Japan, mostly a Buddhist and Shinto country.

They probably have no to little understanding of Islam.

It is wrong to set fire to any house of worship regardless the country.

Here in AZ-land, PHX police several months ago stepped up their patrols around a few mosques because of threats. Local hood rats took a paint ball gun to one in the North Phoenix area.

 

[ziaulislam]

You can't pick and choose what Jinnah meant when your national character, your entire existence is build on it. If only he had the foresight, but then again I wouldn't blame him, he did a great job with what he had 90% of the country was illiterate they wouldn't be bothered about muh civilization they only care about simple Hindu-Muslim.
And that's why you are finding it difficult to properly claim a place in the civilizational state. A section in Pakistan will always object to it and you are only a cog in the wheel while they are the charioteer.

Jinnah was too much nice to Hindus and results was he got tricked into divided muslim provinces

Even in 1946 just a year before partition he accepted a united india plan under a "federal govt" but congress refused

They wanted todays Kashmir rather with total federal powers

Reality is Congress thought Pakistan will be conquered or collapsed hence they allowed it rather then accepting a united india under federal law

Just google cabinet mission 1946 under AI mode and you will get an unbiased explanation of what happened

Nehru wife was already in mount batten pants so his bet was he didnt need to be sincere..and yes nehru wife did an excellent job in sobotaging and surprising jinnah with splitting provinces

Kudos to her ***ina..she was indeed a heroin of the story ..india owes alot to her..not much to nehru

Great movie showing their "love"

 

[jamal18]

Yes, Muslims are terrible.

And the Japanese Prime minister laid a wreath on the tombstone of the American pilot who dropped an atomic bomb on Hiroshima.

 

[Vikramaditya1]

Where did i "Pick and choose"? Have you misread my post?

He had the foresight to know Golwalkar's intentions long before 1947 and to know furthermore that NO amount of Ncert education would correct the mind of the Indian hindu with regards to those intentions - you are our forum's most prominent exemplar of this, congrats on your "incorrigibility". Jinnah figured it all out in the nick of time. Churchill, Nehru, Gandhi and others also knew, interestingly enough. Jinnah acted on this foresight.

We don't care btw about "hindu-muslim"; we care about a safe haven for the south Asian musulman and his rightful legacy. That is all there is to Pakistan - it is no great mystery. All are welcome there as long as they are happy to not smash up our stuff.

Indeed, there are more hindus in Pakistan than in Europe and USA combined (not counting all those student visa elopers of course which might give Europe, USA the edge!). Those Pakistani hindus remain under threat from the multitude hostile actions of Hindustan and we shall protect them and anyone else in our citadel with everything we have.

Muh RSS saar and Golwalkar saar. Both RSS and Golwalkar was so irrelevant in Indian polity at the time that Jinnah thought based on some "inputs" RSS along with Sikh militants are going to be working at overthrowing Indian government in effect helping Pakistan. See my NCERT education is working out for me vs whatever you studied or didn't. What's your national publishers name again? Anyway....

Again you do care about Hindu Muslim that's all there is to your nation. How different you are blah blah blah. What's funnier is actually some Hindu retards like Joginder Mandal bought this "All are welcome " bhaichara and went to Pakistan, became your first Minister of Law and Justice and ironically didn't find neither law or justice and ran back with his life. Never happened to our first education minister.

Haha there are more Dhimmis in Pakistan than US and EU combined yes. Minorities especially Hindus does better in almost every other country except when they are in Pakistan, what a mystery... It's hard to even find them by their name because they are named Ansari or Mallick to hide their identity. Too bad they were not influential enough like Mr. Mandal to call Nehru on the line and arrange their return. Hopefully when situations here get better they can come home.

 

[Master Chief]

Muh RSS saar and Golwalkar saar. Both RSS and Golwalkar was so irrelevant in Indian polity at the time that Jinnah thought based on some "inputs" RSS along with Sikh militants are going to be working at overthrowing Indian government in effect helping Pakistan. See my NCERT education is working out for me vs whatever you studied or didn't. What's your national publishers name again? Anyway....

Again you do care about Hindu Muslim that's all there is to your nation. How different you are blah blah blah. What's funnier is actually some Hindu retards like Joginder Mandal bought this "All are welcome " bhaichara and went to Pakistan, became your first Minister of Law and Justice and ironically didn't find neither law or justice and ran back with his life. Never happened to our first education minister.

Haha there are more Dhimmis in Pakistan than US and EU combined yes. Minorities especially Hindus does better in almost every other country except when they are in Pakistan, what a mystery... It's hard to even find them by their name because they are named Ansari or Mallick to hide their identity. Too bad they were not influential enough like Mr. Mandal to call Nehru on the line and arrange their return. Hopefully when situations here get better they can come home.

You constantly derail the argument with novel conjecture and fantasy. So be it. We shall entertain them for a moment.

Much to your alarm, no doubt, you will find that the "dhimmis" who do escape back to Mata Bharat are immediately classified according to their caste and hence, become vulnerable to the very persecution that, ironically, they avoided by being in Pakistan. The class/caste of hindus remains relevant to their likelihood of survival in Hindustan, hence 5,000,000 choose to stay in Pakistan rather than avail themselves of these supposed Dalit community opportunities in India.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1573476

Now you also make comparison with the global chess playing barhadari, but fail to acknowledge the caste of most of those western based migrants - high caste. They already had opportunities back in India and utilised their networks to further their opportunities abroad.

The hitherto more Dalitised folk who have come more recently to UK are the simple tuk tuk drivers within the "gig economy" that you are used to. Feel free to come and see for yourself how these folks are kept in check by the established high caste communities. So much so, that laws have now been passed in this regard.

But let us park our varying hypotheses on the fate of diaspora communities and return to the original assertions made. Jinnah made his thoughts perfectly clear in multiple speeches, with regards to Pakistan's identity specifically. He also described your kind as "incorrigible" decades before any of our people saw the evidence for this manifest in front of their eyes.

It is what it is. A fear of Golwalkar's scheming existed. You will argue it was irrational. I will simply point to the current halaath of your nation and the periodic mob based order instituted on the streets and in the courtrooms. It is up to you to control this halaath and prove Jinnah wrong, if you even wish to that is.

 

[K2RULEZ]

These Pakistanis are visiting Japan to spread Islam in a country where religious conversion is outrightly banned by law. Do they seriously expect the Japanese people to tolerate this?

Sure. You set a mosque on fire.

 

[El Sidd]

It was 1 incident by, afaik, 1 single delusional person. I really don't see what the fuss is about. It's hardly worth opening a thread over. Japan has plenty of actual problems to deal with, especially with US marines raping and murdering their women, which is ongoing btw, not some distant 1980s historical matter.

Growing outrage in Japan after US Marine arrested in woman’s killing

The 20-year-old soldier denies the charge as protests held on Okinawa and in Tokyo.

www.aljazeera.com

Your magnificent idea is for Muslims to absorb the societal problems in Japan and become yet another escape goat? One can understand polytheists glee at this mosque desecration, one can even understand Haider on some ghetto level sectarianism but what joy did the desecration brought to you? What would it take you to call this as terrorism? RSS wallpaper on this panty sniffing tentacle loving terrorist?

 

[Master Chief]

Your magnificent idea is for Muslims to absorb the societal problems in Japan and become yet another escape goat? One can understand polytheists glee at this mosque desecration, one can even understand Haider on some ghetto level sectarianism but what joy did the desecration brought to you? What would it take you to call this as terrorism? RSS wallpaper on this panty sniffing tentacle loving terrorist?

I want to say I understood your point except for the panty sniffing bit. However, I didn't understand any of it.

 

[Vikramaditya1]

You constantly derail the argument with novel conjecture and fantasy. So be it. We shall entertain them for a moment.

Much to your alarm, no doubt, you will find that the "dhimmis" who do escape back to Mata Bharat are immediately classified according to their caste and hence, become vulnerable to the very persecution that, ironically, they avoided by being in Pakistan. The class/caste of hindus remains relevant to their likelihood of survival in Hindustan, hence 5,000,000 choose to stay in Pakistan rather than avail themselves of these supposed Dalit community opportunities in India.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1573476

Now you also make comparison with the global chess playing barhadari, but fail to acknowledge the caste of most of those western based migrants - high caste. They already had opportunities back in India and utilised their networks to further their opportunities abroad.

The hitherto more Dalitised folk who have come more recently to UK are the simple tuk tuk drivers within the "gig economy" that you are used to. Feel free to come and see for yourself how these folks are kept in check by the established high caste communities. So much so, that laws have now been passed in this regard.

But let us park our varying hypotheses on the fate of diaspora communities and return to the original assertions made. Jinnah made his thoughts perfectly clear in multiple speeches, with regards to Pakistan's identity specifically. He also described your kind as "incorrigible" decades before any of our people saw the evidence for this manifest in front of their eyes.

It is what it is. A fear of Golwalkar's scheming existed. You will argue it was irrational. I will simply point to the current halaath of your nation and the periodic mob based order instituted on the streets and in the courtrooms. It is up to you to control this halaath and prove Jinnah wrong, if you even wish to that is.

This is why you guys are not very smart at making arguments. Gave me an opening with the whole "All are welcome" bull crap, now says immediate Dalit classification reaching India, if they get classified as Dalit in India, it's a golden ticket to positions of power all you gotta do is just study better. Do you know how many Muslim and Christian groups wanting to be classified as Dalit?

Over 400 Dalit Christians stage protest demanding SC status in Vellore

VELLORE: Over 400 members of the Dalit Christian community in Vellore observed Black Day on Monday, taking part in the annual nationwide protest demanding

www.newindianexpress.com

You lack a basic understanding of Indian politics (saying Dalit classification as something bad) and is obsessed with RSS (developed post Imran Khan brainrot) you clearly should go back to learn more about Jinnah and your history in general it's not all RSS or Hindutva you give them too much credit for events before 1947, which comes from your general lack of understanding of Indian history which I assume comes from lack of education in that regard.

Jinnah never in his life mentioned Golwalkar by name or RSS he probably thought from some intel briefing that RSS and Sikh Militant groups of Tara Singh will be useful against his enemy, the Indian National Congress. Jinnah this Jinnah that, Jinnah Golwalkar this blah blah blah.

For Jinnah the Indian National Congress was the target, he assumed minorities will be in trouble in India and created a country for Muslims (not everyone). To quote his own words "Indian Muslims may accept citizenship in the State in which they are. They can remain there as foreigners. Or they can come to Pakistan. I will welcome them." There is no point in trying to say it's because of RSS or Golwalkar Jinnah decided on Pakistan, it's his own belief that Muslims are a different civilization and should therefore need a seperate country. For some reason you refuse to believe that, and argues about inclusiveness lol!

 

[Musings]

@Vikramaditya1

Look at your last post - then look at the title. Every other thread you venture on becomes a toilet. Cut it out - last warning.
@Master Chief - stop encouraging him. Anymore behavior like this and i may take action and make you you a mod or something............