JF-17 - Updates, News & Discussion

[Pakistanithinktank]

Mirages are laughing

I hear you loud and clear but only difference is that those Mirages were made by France and JF-17 is made in Pakistan.

JF-17 Block I aircraft entered service around 2007-2010. By the mid-2030s, many will have accumulated significant flight hours.

• Structural fatigue increases maintenance costs.
• Availability rates tend to decline with age.
• Modern replacements may offer lower lifecycle costs than extensive refurbishment.

 

[NGAD IS THE BEST]

I hear you loud and clear but only difference is that those Mirages were made by France and JF-17 is made in Pakistan.

And mirage still very good in low level strike but JF-17 is only good on medium and high-altitude missions, and its main mission is air superiority mission after J-10C/ F-16 rather than true strike jet, and it's not 100% made by Pakistan but more than 40% parts comes from China

 

[Pakistanithinktank]

And mirage still very good in low level strike but JF-17 is only good on medium and high-altitude missions, and its main mission is air superiority mission after J-10C/ F-16 rather than true strike jet, and it's not 100% made by Pakistan but more than 40% parts comes from China

We are discussing block 1, not block 3 and regarding of what percentage of it is made in Pakistan, Block 1 designers did not necessarily leave the same growth margins found in larger fighters like Mirage-2000 and F-16s.

 

[Cipher212]

I hear you loud and clear but only difference is that those Mirages were made by France and JF-17 is made in Pakistan.

JF-17 Block I aircraft entered service around 2007-2010. By the mid-2030s, many will have accumulated significant flight hours.

• Structural fatigue increases maintenance costs.
• Availability rates tend to decline with age.
• Modern replacements may offer lower lifecycle costs than extensive refurbishment.

Off topic but

Bhai AI na use karo please. Like I use it sometimes to summarize long ass posts cause I ain't reading all that but damn you didn't even remove the bullet points

 

[Yasser76]

JF17 winning "orders" is bad news for Pakistan unfortunately as it means the PAF fleet is not being refreshed with younger platforms unfortunately.

Insane right!? PAF have heavily promoted this plane abroad and when we win orders we suffer. Chinese may not help us here as not worth their time and effort. Ultimatley we are left with three options

1) Stop inducting JF-17C and focus on J-10C/J-35
2) Set up another line at Kamra
3) Stop foreign sales

No easy solution to this from what I can make out

 

[Yasser76]

And mirage still very good in low level strike but JF-17 is only good on medium and high-altitude missions, and its main mission is air superiority mission after J-10C/ F-16 rather than true strike jet, and it's not 100% made by Pakistan but more than 40% parts comes from China

Mirage is feeling its age, no two ways about it.

Range is limited, payload limited and it cannot be integrated into modern PAF network. Back in 2019 we required a two seater (for carrying the guidence pod) and a single seater (to carry the missile) just to get off one H-4 missile. So 3 pilots, two planes plus escorts, 4 plane package. A lot of work and resource.

2 F-26s or 2 JF-17Cs could do the same job. Targeting, weapon carriage and self escort