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[ghazi52]

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[ghazi52]

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Given that CAC won’t be producing thunders and in worst case scenario, Kamra gets hit, Wouldn’t that basically be a terrible thing for our Thunders? Maintenance, production etc

This could explain the sudden focus (away from thunders) for the time being, J-10s, possibly V upgrades for F-16s and J-35s, until and unless an alternate production line could be established, ideally on foreign lands (GCC/China nearing our borders). PAF must invest in a secondary production/maintenance facility NOT IN PAKISTAN.

PFX/Thunder Alpha is another reason.

@MastanKhan @Oscar

 

[CSAW]

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[Quwa]

You cannot blame the F-16 for it - it really is a very very good all-in-one package

The late '80s/early '90s F-16 was also a way, way, way better deal than what it's today. When it was at peak production, it was rolling out from the US, Europe, Turkiye, and South Korea -- massive economies-of-scale with thousands of birds entering service globally. Back in the early 1990s, Flight International said that the PAF had an option for another 50-60 units on top of the PG-III/IV 71...so, the PAF's scope for F-16s was basically reaching 150 units.

 

[Reichmarshal]

Plz don't pick every think up from X n post it here. 90% of the posts are bs. Plus the wrist slitting suicidal analysis are reducing the already tattered credibility of this forum.
Their may or may not be have been a conversation between the dgmo of both the countries in which way to reduce the hostilities on both sides might have been discussed.
One of such measures might have been not to attack each other's production/rebuilt facilities.
Now does that mean that PAC stopped all work n ran for the hills and PAF decided to stop buying anymore jf 17 as india might attack them....
If india were to attack PAC facilities then PAF would attack HAL facilities.

PAC is working at full throttle for fulfilling foreign n domestic orders of block 3 and alpha.

6,7 n 8 may was all PAF with little to no input from China. After that China got involved.
Now this bs post from X staring that the our dgmo told his Indian counterpart that so n so mki is about attack kamra.
For starters if an attack was initiated then mid flight its next to impossible to abort attack. As the distances involved are small.
After the night of the 7th fighter elements of iaf were grounded for two days according their cds.(csd).
Even after two days when they were allowed to be operational n airborne they were keeping 200 km away from the intl. Border.
On the morning of the 10th when india decided to hit Pakistan, they did so using brahmos missiles n ir loitering munitions. 10 to 12 brahmos per target.
No iaf aircraft were involved.

So members need to refrain from posting every bs crap of info they get out their n post it on this forum

 

[Metal 0-1]

Let's say hypothetically
PAC kamra develops just a squadron strength (no more) of JF-17E/G with dedicated Electronic Warfare capabilities. Like our homegrown little Growler. With ELINT/SIGINT pods on wingtips and two UHF/LF jammers with ram air turbines.

Now this dedicated EW squadron armed with anti-radiation missiles will be our Wild Weasels and can be really effective against pre-emptive SEAD/DEAD missions against Indian A/D.

It's just a wild dream I had last night after binge watching videos on Chinese J-16D and J-15D

 

[Ali_Baba]

Let's say hypothetically
PAC kamra develops just a squadron strength (no more) of JF-17E/G with dedicated Electronic Warfare capabilities. Like our homegrown little Growler. With ELINT/SIGINT pods on wingtips and two UHF/LF jammers with ram air turbines.

Now this dedicated EW squadron armed with anti-radiation missiles will be our Wild Weasels and can be really effective against pre-emptive SEAD/DEAD missions against Indian A/D.

It's just a wild dream I had last night after binge watching videos on Chinese J-16D and J-15D

Highly unlikey you would get a Growler variant of the JF17 as the engine cannot generate enough electrical power for that. You need a twin-engine jet for that type of role. Electrical power generation is very important consideration for this type of role.

 

[Metal 0-1]

Highly unlikey you would get a Growler variant of the JF17 as the engine cannot generate enough electrical power for that. You need a twin-engine jet for that type of role. Electrical power generation is very important consideration for this type of role.

Yes that's exactly why AN/ALQ-99 generates it's own power using RAT.
Even worked on underpowered platforms like EA-6B prowlers

 

[Tariq Habib Afridi]

Plz don't pick every think up from X n post it here. 90% of the posts are bs. Plus the wrist slitting suicidal analysis are reducing the already tattered credibility of this forum.
Their may or may not be have been a conversation between the dgmo of both the countries in which way to reduce the hostilities on both sides might have been discussed.
One of such measures might have been not to attack each other's production/rebuilt facilities.
Now does that mean that PAC stopped all work n ran for the hills and PAF decided to stop buying anymore jf 17 as india might attack them....
If india were to attack PAC facilities then PAF would attack HAL facilities.

PAC is working at full throttle for fulfilling foreign n domestic orders of block 3 and alpha.

6,7 n 8 may was all PAF with little to no input from China. After that China got involved.
Now this bs post from X staring that the our dgmo told his Indian counterpart that so n so mki is about attack kamra.
For starters if an attack was initiated then mid flight its next to impossible to abort attack. As the distances involved are small.
After the night of the 7th fighter elements of iaf were grounded for two days according their cds.(csd).
Even after two days when they were allowed to be operational n airborne they were keeping 200 km away from the intl. Border.
On the morning of the 10th when india decided to hit Pakistan, they did so using brahmos missiles n ir loitering munitions. 10 to 12 brahmos per target.
No iaf aircraft were involved.

So members need to refrain from posting every bs crap of info they get out their n post it on this forum

exactly i was thinking the same and if it was just going to airborne how the DGMO knows they are going to target PAC? staellite do not tell you that? so it was a complete crap from indian general.

My other question from you is related to your below comment?
"PAC is working at full throttle for fulfilling foreign n domestic orders of block 3 and alpha."
do you mean domestic orders of Block 3 and alpha? OR
domestic order of Alpha and foreign order of block 3?

 

[Tariq Habib Afridi]

Let's say hypothetically
PAC kamra develops just a squadron strength (no more) of JF-17E/G with dedicated Electronic Warfare capabilities. Like our homegrown little Growler. With ELINT/SIGINT pods on wingtips and two UHF/LF jammers with ram air turbines.

Now this dedicated EW squadron armed with anti-radiation missiles will be our Wild Weasels and can be really effective against pre-emptive SEAD/DEAD missions against Indian A/D.

It's just a wild dream I had last night after binge watching videos on Chinese J-16D and J-15D

For that we will need to make a two engine heavy and at the same time low RCS using ram coating and designing changes?

 

[Assault Rifle]

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He never said C4ISR and EW capability of Pakistan were superior.
Pls don't misquote.

 

[Reichmarshal]

exactly i was thinking the same and if it was just going to airborne how the DGMO knows they are going to target PAC? staellite do not tell you that? so it was a complete crap from indian general.

My other question from you is related to your below comment?
"PAC is working at full throttle for fulfilling foreign n domestic orders of block 3 and alpha."
do you mean domestic orders of Block 3 and alpha? OR
domestic order of Alpha and foreign order of block 3?

block 3 foreign
alpha domestic

 

[NGAD IS THE BEST]

please share a link . if this is the case then great news for export orders. i thought the official sources gave credit to j10s for all the a-a kills. re: s400 it cannot be claimed as a confirmed kill as we did not see any footage or satellite images id destroyed control unit or the cheese cake unit.

Are you false flagger?

 

[Metal 0-1]

For that we will need to make a two engine heavy and at the same time low RCS using ram coating and designing changes?

Jammers like ALQ-99 with RATs that generate their own electrical power