Do you even understand what a nuclear threshold means? I will not bother explaining the basics to you.
You can bother understanding it yourself first. You were claiming Pakistani nuclear deterrence was the reason Israel and India didn't attack Kahuta, when Pakistan didn't even have a working device or any means to deploy it. Had the attack gone through, the program may have been set back even further like what happened to Iraq.
On underground facilities, nobody needs to disclose classified locations to establish that Pakistan has spent decades hardening, dispersing and concealing strategic assets, especially not to satisfy some foreign expat on a forum. If you are genuinely curious, you can research the geology around Pakistani airbases and the mountain systems extending into the Hindu Kush. I will leave it at that.
This is a strange tangent you have gone into. What does any of that, if it even exists in the first place and known only to special people like you, have to do with this defense pact ? Is Pakistan going to move all these mountain facilities to Saudi Arabia ?
Pakistan also possesses a fundamentally different deterrence structure from Iran. Iran’s response was largely one dimensional, relying heavily on repeated ballistic missile and drone barrages, exactly the type of threat Israel has spent decades preparing to counter. Everybody knows how that ended.
Pakistan, Turkey and Saudi Arabia lack even this missile and drone capability that Iran has. I don't know why you have difficulty recognizing this fact. The three countries cannot pull off the meagre results even the Iranians achieved against Israeli/Western AD.
Pakistani deterrence capabilities, where they do exist are limited to India and cannot be exported to Middle East as that would compromise its posture against India. You ignore the domestic constraints Pakistan faces.
Pakistan’s response would be multi domain we possesses an active modern fighter force, extensive AEW&C coverage, dispersed air assets, road mobile missile systems and a nuclear arsenal deliberately designed around survivability and second strike capability.
This is deployed against India only and not available to take to the Middle East. It is also not enough to fight Israel AND India at the same time.
These are not “buzzwords.” They are basic elements of military doctrine. The fact that you do not understand them does not make them imaginary. Should I really have to go system by system and explain each one to you before you accept that they exist?
They are buzzwords to pretend that Pakistan has military capabilities far beyond what it actually possesses. Your fighter force, AEW&C multi-domain blah blah may be enough to hold off the third-world Indian military for awhile, but it is vastly inferior to what Israel possesses in all these same domains. Saudis and Turks cannot add anything substantial.
You keep talking as though Israel can simply repeat the Iran campaign against Pakistan by changing the name on the target folder. It cannot.
Israel can fire ALBM's non-stop at Pakistan and there is little Pakistan can do to stop it or shoot back at Israel. That is the bitter truth. How did you fare shooting missiles at India ? Majority were either intercepted or fell in open spaces. Based on that performance you are going to strike back at Israel ? Only in your buzzword filled dreams.
And dismissing nuclear escalation as “nonsense” does not make nuclear weapons disappear from Israeli operational planning or threat calculations. That risk would sit at the centre of any decision involving direct conflict with Pakistan.
We just had Sindoor last year, where India breached the sacred "nuclear deterrence" that Pakistani policy makers had relied on since 1998. You are now making the same mistake with Israel, alongwith mistakenly thinking Pakistan is going to deploy any of its nuclear assets in MidEast.
Stuxnet was an impressive U.S. Israeli intelligence operation against Iran. Nobody disputes that. But one successful cyber operation does not establish permanent cyber supremacy over every other nuclear state. Do you know how many people work in Pakistan's nuclear program? The number is close to six figures. We have had multiple cyberattacks against our facilities in the past. We are still here.. I dont need to disclose further.
I am glad to hear Pakistani nuke facilities have foiled cyberattacks, I just wonder what was the quality of those attacks in the first place ? Could it withstand a technical/human operation like Stuxnet ? There a plenty of Pakistani officers who have sold state secrets in exchange for money/emigration.
Point was Israeli cyber/covert ops capabilities far exceed what Pakistan has, another domain in which the Israelis are ahead.
But overall, I do not entirely blame you. Living in the U.S., you are constantly exposed to a media environment that often portrays Israeli military and intelligence capabilities as almost omnipotent.
Some heavy projection right there.
This pact is aimed at Iran, not Israel.
