Lebanon-Israel War | 2023-present

Falcon29 said:
They didn't stay out. Would Hezbollah allow any group to engage in a clash with Israel that lasts weeks? They would certainly not. As they won't back any other group's decisions nor approve them.

Hamas consults Islamic Jihad, response is coordinated, Hamas mobilizes as Israel could start striking at them during such a clash without warning, Hamas prepares to confront surprise ground offensive or raid, and ready to fire back if Israel starts targeting civilians and families, without concealing last minute methods to go into action so Israel can't learn how they go into full mobilization

Hamas even crafts response package for Islamic Jihad

That's far from 'staying out'
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Yeah they stayed out of it Islamic jihad isn’t subordinate to Hamas they have have their own goals and strategies not saying they haven’t consulted on things in the past but let’s again go over this Hamas stayed out the last major conflict not because they didn’t want to fight because they had a plan in motion and their plan was bigger than any of us could imagine so yeah they stayed out of it.
Honestly dude you really were never this bad it’s like you can’t even be wrong at anything or admit their could be truth from another side honestly have insomnia need to sleep
 
These people don't believe in the cause. At the same time they refuse to allow movements in Lebanon to take their place in defending in Lebanon. There are movements in Lebanon that are more competent but Hezbollah is acting like a policing force for Israel. Israel lets them do token strikes so they can control Lebanon and Israel and US allow them to defacto control Lebanon in exchange Hezbollah prevents rise of effective movements in Lebanon.

The AoR regressed badly due to Nasrallah and Qasem Solemeania sectarian politics and focusing efforts on Syria. This Hezbollah of today is Qasem and Nasrallah's doing. Imad Mughienyeh had put together a much better force.

Hamas was only thing holding together the AoR and giving it any charisma. After Gaza was subjected to worst bombing of history, the AoR factions are showing us what they have always been. Frauds that are in love with money and will stand down from their principles and even beliefs if it came to it.

Look at their mindset below. If Lebanon gets attacked they aren't gonna defend Lebanon they're gonna auction themselves as police force for Lebanon and hope to get bid on by highest bidder.

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I'm gonna speak frankly,

it's not in Hezbollah's interest, nor in the interest of all the Shia, to enter into an open war with Israel.

The axis folks in Iraq were pushing the Shia of Lebanon into the war,
and when our people in Lebanon entered the confrontation and bore the destruction and the siege,
they turned against them and all the blame fell on them.

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Israel won't do a war on Lebanon

The behind the scenes is very different than what is told in the media

Hezbollah is a policing force for Israel

Israel and US dropped end of year deadline, no more talk about any war

There is something behind the scenes between the AoR and US/Israel. AoR is leveraged by Israel and US to prevent what they say as 'Muslim Brotherhood takeover of the region '

Only way Lebanon gets attacked is if Hamas/Syrian opposition liberate Syria from YPG Kurdish occupation and also take over Lebanon

Then the US/Israel will immediately show up and try burning Lebanon to the ground
 
Shadi hassan said:
Yeah they stayed out of it Islamic jihad isn’t subordinate to Hamas they have have their own goals and strategies not saying they haven’t consulted on things in the past but let’s again go over this Hamas stayed out the last major conflict not because they didn’t want to fight because they had a plan in motion and their plan was bigger than any of us could imagine so yeah they stayed out of it.
Honestly dude you really were never this bad it’s like you can’t even be wrong at anything or admit their could be truth from another side honestly have insomnia need to sleep
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Since some biased mod deleted it, I'll repeat again. You don't know what you're talking about and you don't know Gaza. You don't know Islamic Jihad and you don't know Hamas.
 
Unfortunately it's a much bigger problem than underestimating the enemy. They refuse to learn. And they keep taking advice from Iran which tells them to take the hits and allow Israel to manage escalation and tempo of battle
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The group likely underestimated Israel’s rapid escalation doctrine, expecting gradual tit-for-tat exchanges that would favor Hezbollah’s attritional strategy. Instead, the precision strike campaign—from the detonation of thousands of Hezbollah-linked pagers to an airstrike on Hassan Nasrallah’s underground headquarters—demonstrated Israel’s willingness to escalate rapidly and decisively. As a result, Hezbollah will likely adopt a more aggressive and risk-tolerant posture, seeking to preempt or complicate Israel’s ability to manage escalation.

www.atlanticcouncil.org

With Hezbollah rearming, Israel must heed the lessons of October 7

Only by combining military strength, diplomatic coordination, and strategic foresight can Israel keep the terrorist group in check.
www.atlanticcouncil.org www.atlanticcouncil.org
 
One scenario mentioned here is current Syr regime attacking Labennon. I dont think it is possible out of the blue but usa-israel controls many puppets. ypg is one of them. In a possible future conflict scenario within Syria ypg-pkk will try to get Irans-Hezbollahs support against jolani. These pawns tried it many times before and I hope Iran wont fall in that kind of trap in future as well. In that case there would be a rift with Turkiye-Iran and Syria can attack Labennon afterwards claiming this support and israel can attack as well on Labennon from air in parallel.

It would be wise for Hezbollah to keep out of these and arm against israel with focus on them with modern weapons like fpv drones while keeping older-newer ballistic missiles dispersing and finding new ways to store them and lightweight portable newer air defense. Deterrence is the game here not playing directly into israeli puppet games and fall into their scenario.
 
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Falcon29 said:
Since some biased mod deleted it, I'll repeat again. You don't know what you're talking about and you don't know Gaza. You don't know Islamic Jihad and you don't know Hamas.
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vizier said:
One scenario mentioned here is current Syr regime attacking Labennon. I dont think it is possible out of the blue but usa-israel controls many puppets. ypg is one of them. In a possible future conflict scenario within Syria ypg-pkk will try to get Irans-Hezbollahs support against jolani. These pawns tried it many times before and I hope Iran wont fall in that kind of trap in future as well. In that case there would be a rift with Turkiye-Iran and Syria can attack Labennon afterwards claiming this support and israel can attack as well on Labennon from air in parallel.

It would be wise for Hezbollah to keep out of these and arm against israel with focus on them with modern weapons like fpv drones while keeping older-newer ballistic missiles dispersing and finding new ways to store them and lightweight portable newer air defense. Deterrence is the game here not playing directly into israeli puppet games and fall into their scenario.
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Julani attacks and kills anyone who smuggle arms to Hezbollah.

Syria says killed man caught with landmines intended for Hezbollah​


https://english.alarabiya.net/amp/N...caught-with-landmines-intended-for-hezbollah-
 
There are some posters here that are very sectarian, that are apparently “Palestinians”, but don’t even know what Hamas has said about Iran and Hezbollah. Such is their sectarian hatred.

I have criticized Hezbollah and Iran here many times on strategy: people can go through my posts history. But one cannot criticize their morals, unlike the Jolani crowd in Syria.

Hezbollah fought an Israeli onslaught for 1 year straight for standing up for the Palestinians, and Iran faced an existential war from Israel/US/the West/Arab Sunni nations because it fired at Israel.

The Arab Sunnis besides Hamas, including Jolani, ISIS, Al-Qaeda factions didn’t fire one bullet against Israel. They did Israel’s bidding. Not even any real kind of support from the Palestinians in the West Bank, or Palestinians in Israel.

Reading some of the sectarian thankless posts here, sometimes I think Iran, Hezbollah, Houthis should stop supporting the Palestinians; and we’ll wait to see the Arab Sunnis support the Palestinians.

But then I also fear what will happen to the people of Gaza, because I know the support from the Arab Sunnis will never come; and the Palestinians will be erased.

Hence Iran, Hezbollah, Houthis have to keep supporting the Palestinians; because no one else will support them, no matter how thankless supporting the Palestinians might feel sometimes.
 
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shapurzolaktaf said:
Julani attacks and kills anyone who smuggle arms to Hezbollah.

Syria says killed man caught with landmines intended for Hezbollah​


https://english.alarabiya.net/amp/N...caught-with-landmines-intended-for-hezbollah-
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They will do that. and there can be provacations like small skirmishes to drive Hezbollah inside the conflict which is what israel wants. Also there will be disinformation campaign claiming Iran supporting ypg etc. All these has to be countered immediately by Hezbollah and Iran and should be shown as lies before they take effect and shape the narrative against Hezbollah. It definately smells like a trap to side with israeli puppet ypg that will draw in israel immediately from air as well as current groups in Syria will start attacking Labennon immediately. Let them fight. Ofcourse they will say that after ypg it will be Hezbollahs turn but believing them is up to you. Without interfering Hezbollah will gain time to arm against israel and have sufficient deterrance for canceling a future conflict.

Air cargo is possible for fpv drones. Quad copter bodies can be produced in Labennon by 3d printers and some basic metal work. They are produced in thousands in Ukraine basements every day. Fiber optical cables and electronics can be delivered from Iran through Iraq by small fixed wing catapult launched parachute recovered drones. New battery can be installed to cargo drone landing in south west Iraq to fly low inside Labennon for the next stop for example. There to be recovered by Hezbollah and cargo is installed to fpv drones and configured. Fixed wing kamikaze drones can be delivered that way as a copmplete package removing the warhead and reducing weight increasing range too without the land route.
 
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congratulations from CENTCOM to Jolani on behalf of Israel

the alliances are clear
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Honestly look he wants to curb weapons smuggling etc idc but keep it under the rug that your helping a country that massacred 10s of thousands of Palestinians thousands of Syrians as well 🤦 I think people forget yeah Bashar is evil honestly Iran should have let him be lynched on the streets of Damascus he’s ordered defenders Syrians to be killed who were peacefully protesting but I think people here sometimes forget Israelis have been killing Syrians throughout this uprising and after as well alwaties aren’t the enemy anymore now it’s the majority they’re going after to cause another civil war
 
Shadi hassan said:
Honestly look he wants to curb weapons smuggling etc idc but keep it under the rug that your helping a country that massacred 10s of thousands of Palestinians thousands of Syrians as well 🤦 I think people forget yeah Bashar is evil honestly Iran should have let him be lynched on the streets of Damascus he’s ordered defenders Syrians to be killed who were peacefully protesting but I think people here sometimes forget Israelis have been killing Syrians throughout this uprising and after as well alwaties aren’t the enemy anymore now it’s the majority they’re going after to cause another civil war
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This headline helps Jolani with the West, GCC and Israel. That's his priority, not Syrians or Palestinians.
 
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