Lebanon-Israel War | 2023-present

[Falcon29]

According to a Lebanese government source.

The siezure of weapons from Palestinian camps in Lebanon will begin in mid-June, and from all camps.

Later, Hezbollah's weapons will be seized (according to the government).

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[Falcon29]

According to a Lebanese government source.

The siezure of weapons from Palestinian camps in Lebanon will begin in mid-June, and from all camps.

Later, Hezbollah's weapons will be seized (according to the government).

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^^

They will take Hamas Lebanon weapons but leave Fatah armed because it does nothing besides attack other Palestinians.

Hezbollah won't agree but it's being attacked on a daily basis by Israel. Lebanese government/military are waiting for opportune moment.

 

[hyperman]

Later, Hezbollah's weapons will be seized (according to the government).

And Iran is just letting it happen. lol

This whole conflict, they half assed it, they could have gone all out on the northern front, but they slow played it, like some sort of "strategy" and all it did was allow Israel to start slowly degrading them, until all the higher ups were being killed, and now we are at a point where they are facing dissolution. the Gazan front kept asking them to escalate, and they never did, only blew up cell towers.

 

[Falcon29]

According to a Lebanese government source.

The siezure of weapons from Palestinian camps in Lebanon will begin in mid-June, and from all camps.

Later, Hezbollah's weapons will be seized (according to the government).

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I looked into it and couldn't find anything about Hezbollah. It's just Palestinain refugee camps that will be disarmed. After Mahmoud Abbas's visit to Lebanon demanding that. It's essentially disarming Hamas and Islamic Jihad in Lebanon.

I hope Hamas starts firing rockets now. We won't give up any weapons meant for our survival.

 

[Falcon29]

And Iran is just letting it happen. lol

This whole conflict, they half assed it, they could have gone all out on the northern front, but they slow played it, like some sort of "strategy" and all it did was allow Israel to start slowly degrading them, until all the higher ups were being killed, and now we are at a point where they are facing dissolution. the Gazan front kept asking them to escalate, and they never did, only blew up cell towers.

Hezbollah wasn't mentioned in the article. But they are trying to talk Hezbollah into disarming.

I'm not sure what Iran thought of Hezbollah. It's likely they don't view them as a reliable military deterrent to Israel anymore and will rely more heavily on Iraqi allies.

Hezbollah's strategy didn't make sense and isn't making sense right now. I don't know what to say. They must have thought their weapon arsenal will always serve as a deterrent and wouldn't need to be deployed.

Iran on other hand is ready, imo. Ansarallah didn't know about the operation but quickly made adjustments to deploy firepower against Israel.

 

[Falcon29]

It is unlikely Palestinians will give up any weapons. And unlikely Hezbollah allows it because they may be next.

But whomever is in charge of Hezbollah profile, if he's in Iran, needs to adopt a better strategy. Hezbollah operated more like IRGC by being involved in regional conflicts, fighting and playing advisory/training roles. All while Israel was preparing and collecting intelligence in Lebanon. That was a mistake.

 

[Persian Gulf]

But whomever is in charge of Hezbollah profile, if he's in Iran

it's funny you see first hand how trolls obsessed with Iran try to claim Hamas is controlled by Iran and you know that's a lie

but you entertain the same lie about Hezbollah

 

[Falcon29]

@Persian Gulf @hyperman

Can you remove thread ban on Syria thread. I want to give balanced perspective there.

 

[Falcon29]

it's funny you see first hand how trolls obsessed with Iran try to claim Hamas is controlled by Iran and you know that's a lie

but you entertain the same lie about Hezbollah

No they aren't controlled. I just think they're closer to Iranian government and Iran plays a bigger advisory role for them. Which is not a problem for me.

It's about which figures run the profile and who is more/less effective.

I don't care about Israeli propaganda and narrative building. It's about interests of AoR.

 

[Persian Gulf]

@Persian Gulf @hyperman

Can you remove thread ban on Syria thread. I want to give balanced perspective there.

I only have moderation powers in the Iranian section

No they aren't controlled. I just think they're closer to Iranian government and Iran plays a bigger advisory role for them. Which is not a problem for me.

It's about which figures run the profile and who is more/less effective.

I don't care about Israeli propaganda and narrative building. It's about interests of AoR.

yes that's a fair perspective. but anyone who claims Iran controls them is obviously spreading Israeli propaganda.

 

[Persian Gulf]

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[hyperman]

@Persian Gulf @hyperman

Can you remove thread ban on Syria thread. I want to give balanced perspective there.

You have to talk to musing for that, we only manage the respective country forums, not the middle east forum.

 

[hyperman]

it's funny you see first hand how trolls obsessed with Iran try to claim Hamas is controlled by Iran and you know that's a lie

but you entertain the same lie about Hezbollah

Who claimed Hamas was controlled by Iran, thats slander against Hamas. they are independent with converging interests, but ultimately do their own thing, often in conflciting positions, for example Syria and Assad and Hamas's position on that is the clearest example.

Hezbollah on the other hand, IS under Iranian influence, Nasrallah gave Bayah to Rahbar.

Apples and Oranges.

 

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This is what we are doing now? talking municipal elections? while the Israelis are systematically trying to destroy Hezbollah and pushing the Lebanese state to dismantle its military wing? Municipal elections aren't a shock, that constituency in southern Lebanon has always supported Hebollah. It would be one thing if say Hezbollah was winning in areas that Amal previously won, but that hasn't happened.