Makkah Defence Alliance: Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan, news & updates

[K2RULEZ]

How is this “Shit Show” and “Short term.” This is against the tyranny and terrorism of Iran and it’s proxies aka shite alliance against Sunni states.. Sunni states came into senses after long time against terrorist Iran.. We should call Sunni states act shit show when Iran and it’s proxies were doing genocide of Sunni Muslims in Syria.. Muslims are with Iran if it’s fighting against non-Muslims..

Iran will sit with India every second of the day to discuss Chabahar. The Iranians won't have an issue propping up the Taliban along with Russia and India. Their national interests are supreme and supercede Pakistani concerns.

Likewise, Pakistan needs to do whatever its interests dictate.

Sunni, Shia etc. all becomes irrelevant when supreme interests are at stake.

 

[030292]

How is this “Shit Show” and “Short term.” This is against the tyranny and terrorism of Iran and it’s proxies aka shite alliance against Sunni states.. Sunni states came into senses after long time against terrorist Iran.. We should call Sunni states act shit show when Iran and it’s proxies were doing genocide of Sunni Muslims in Syria.. Muslims are with Iran if it’s fighting against non-Muslims..

Yeah sunnis, that only help to serve the interests of jews and crusaders, where were these sunnis when jews have been massacring their own kith and kin for the past 100 years.

 

[K2RULEZ]

Yeah sunnis, that only help to serve the interests of jews and crusaders, where were these sunnis when jews have been massacring their own kith and kin for the past 100 years.

This is a non-argument. There is no doubt that Iran is acting according to its own interests. At the end of the day Iran also sits down with India and others who have supreme relations with Israel. Aren't Muslims including Indian Shia oppressed in Modi's Hindutva India?

 

[Mujahid]

Yeah sunnis, that only help to serve the interests of jews and crusaders, where were these sunnis when jews have been massacring their own kith and kin for the past 100 years.

They tried to fight them in 2 wars but lost. They can only increase their power and fight back or bring demise for the whole Muslim world against the crusaders and Jews. “Learn some history before replying.”

 

[K2RULEZ]

They tried to fight them in 2 wars but lost. They can only increase their power and fight back or bring demise for the whole Muslim world against the crusaders and Jews. “Learn some history before replying.”

We Sunnis have our own flaws, and we won't pretend to be perfect. In fact, as Muslims, we have failed miserably to protect and speak up for Palestine and other Islamic causes. We won't be spared on the day of judgment either.

Having said that, Iran is acting out of its own interests. There is not a shred of doubt about that. We are often lectured that the Sunni world is cowardly and complicit, yet Iran shows similar tendencies when it comes to its dealings with countries like India.

 

[030292]

They tried to fight them in 2 wars but lost. They can only increase their power and fight back or bring demise for the whole Muslim world against the crusaders and Jews. “Learn some history before replying.”

They fought and got their as*es handed to them so they started fighting amongst themselves, so much for ummah chumma

 

[r3alist]

It's not a matter of morals or principles. These corrupt generals have weakened Pakistan to the extent that they NEED IMF/World Bank/GCC bailouts, else the System collapses.

Everyone else is blameless in society?


Taliban style brain rot


The isi made us backwards etc etc


Lol hush, simple explanations deserve simple put down

 

[Watandar]

Everyone else is blameless in society?


Taliban style brain rot


The isi made us backwards etc etc


Lol hush, simple explanations deserve simple put down

Yes, those who have ruled the country since the 1950's and reduced it to its pathetic present state, which is the army, are the one responsible. Simple truths.

We can also thank this same army for creating the Taliban.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

Maybe PAF planes will get up close and personal with the Houthis ? Saudis may have been avoiding that so as have less risk.

Or one air force is used as bait for AD while the other sneaks in and attacks the Houthis.

Or Pakistani pilots also fly Saudi aircraft and hence more sorties are generated ?

Pakistan has to prove itself somehow now that it has stupidly gotten itself involved as "net security provider to Mideast".

The only thing Pakistan should offer Saudis is a return to sanity. Hubris has it's limits and last thing Saudis should want is to escalate in Yemen... because Pakistan doesn't border Yemen... the fallout, destruction and destabilization will be met by people in the region. The last thing they should want is to make Houthis a pariah... because the Saudi clan own claim to fame comes from the same vein!
Mend now or forsake yout own future because there are a lot more Yemenis then the opposition... they're united and not risk averse as Saudis or their coalitions.

Pakistan would do best stay engaged with both parties and attempt to de-escalate. Give equal ear to Iran as Saudis... to not get carried away in built up paranoia and war of narrative that escalates beyond their capacities... zion watches with a side eye in anticipation.

 

[r3alist]

Iran will sit with India every second of the day to discuss Chabahar. The Iranians won't have an issue propping up the Taliban along with Russia and India. Their national interests are supreme and supercede Pakistani concerns.

Like wise, Pakistan needs to do whatever its interests dictate.

Sunni, Shia etc. all becomes irrelevant when supreme interests are at stake.

What people don't understand about Iran is they want maximum influence from the recent wars

Admittedly this is confusing because you might not think they want to dominate Muslims, but they are not backing down from USA, expect sacrifice for this war, and they will likely want to convert this into Shia triumphalism.... and you might say they have a respect problem with other Muslim nations, because no one else is a revolutionary state



Indie can produce weapons and JV with their enemy..... silence........

 

[K2RULEZ]

What people don't understand about Iran is they want maximum influence from the recent wars

Admittedly this is confusing because you might not think they want to dominate Muslims, but they are not backing down from USA, expect sacrifice for this war, and they will likely want to convert this into Shia triumphalism.... and you might say they have a respect problem with other Muslim nations, because no one else is a revolutionary state



Indie can produce weapons and JV with their enemy..... silence........

We know how this game is played. We are directly affected by Iranian bonhomie with India. We need to be vocal about that. It is a problem. An increased Indian footprint in both Afghanistan and southeastern Iran (Sistan-Baluchestan) establishes an Indian operational presence along Pakistan's western border.

It affects the entire relationship between Pakistan and Iran.

 

[r3alist]

Pakistan would do best stay engaged with both parties and attempt to de-escalate. Give equal ear to Iran as Saudis... to not get carried away in built up paranoia and war of narrative that escalates beyond their capacities... zion watches with a side eye in anticipation

That ship has sailed.

And it had limited shelf life

The Iranians are pushing for maximiiist outcomes, pushing everyone's equilibrium , and that's just unavoidable the longer this goes on



Can we not run away from the state of Gaza, the state of Lebanon, sure Irans heft has multipled but that's not true for the bystanders and weaker players, so what's the goal here again ?

 

[030292]

We know how this game is played. We are directly affected by Iranian bonhomie with India. We need to be vocal about that. It is a problem.

With all due respect, you unilaterally sign military pacts that could potentially be used to directly target them and their interests in the region, what do you expect them to do? Roll out the red carpet?

 

[r3alist]

Yes, those who have ruled the country since the 1950's and reduced it to its pathetic present state, which is the army, are the one responsible. Simple truths.

We can also thank this same army for creating the Taliban.

Predictably simple minded.

 

[Watandar]

Predictably simple minded.

The truth is always simple.