Makkah Defence Alliance: Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan, news & updates

[GoatsMilk]

Looks like they just want to balkanise the larger countries in the middle east along ethnic lines.

No doubt they want to balkanise Turkey and Iran sooner than later as well.

This will give Israel more room to maneuver and capture more lands as the rest of middle east goes up in flames.

I feel like the americans know exactly what their doing with the Houthis.

Saudis forming a sunni alliance probably will now be on the direct hit list from the zionist regional regime.

 

[Owaiz]

Pakistan will nuke Israel if it needs to though as part of the Saudi bilateral deal.

Israel is more invested than almost any other country in the al Sauds continuing in power. Remember that Iran was Israel's best friend, along with the Kemalist generals, under the Pahlavis. Israel knows very well that the al Sauds are their best bet and any other government in Nejd and Hezaz would be far more hostile to them. The threats to the bin Salman al Sauds are from Iran, Yemen, the sidelined al Sauds and the people they rule over.

 

[GoatsMilk]

Further to what i explained earlier.

I think middle easterners are too easily fooled by these guys. Plenty of useful idiots to go around.

 

[mythbuster]

I feel like the americans know exactly what their doing with the Houthis.

Saudis forming a sunni alliance probably will now be on the direct hit list from the zionist regional regime.

Not bad , MBS the genius has no place left to sit other Turkish and Pakistani laps.... middle east is now defacto turkopak joint venture.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

Not bad , MBS the genius has no place left to sit other Turkish and Pakistani laps.... middle east is now defacto turkopak joint venture.

Theoretically, 100% possible!

practically, 0% chance ... bec. Western banks control dollar flow!

we will run short of dollars, even if we start to take action!

control over Saudi dollar empire by the zios banks is beyond anyone's imgination!

suppose, one argues, Trukiye will supply weapons. That is also not practical, bec. it will need money to fund that enterprise!

these days, dollar crunch in the KSA is so severe, that construction on Neom has been stopped (I have heard somewhere in the news!)

News, here is not the stoppage of construction activity rather, the news here is the lack of leverage has been exposed!


Ideally, Pak. should help both parties to balance out, but, of course should help KSA help more..

even in that scenario, stranglehold on our economy will get more stronger and capital flight will occur at a rapid rate, leaving us with a crippling growth rate for decades!

 

[Starlord]

if Pak and Turkiye forces enter the war then they start randi rona that look we told you its against iran bla bla bla and now when both countries are showing restrain iranian trolls are insulting Pakistan and turkiye and pact. I hate it when some one insult this pact and mock our country. specially Pakistani and irani .

Bhai mere, we have some members still doing Randi rona for ISI role in Afghan war with Soviets, imagine if PA actually start military operations then these same people will cry for next 3 decades, and pass down their randi rona to their future generations. These people IQ is equal to Indian lund Bhakts, if Pakistan do nothing they mock Pakistan/MDA for been incompetent, useless etc, but if PA in haste start military operations and troops die as result (which is normal) then the same people will criticize the Generals to not think this through, woh kehte hai na kisi haal mai khush nai hai BSDK lol

Its actually quite funny to see people mocking MDA which was literally signed 2 months ago, and had just one formal meeting while the whole region is already on fire, they had no chance for coorporations, exercises or even defence projects to start but somehow expect the Pakistan or Turkiye to just jump blindly into a counter insurgency operations in Yemen and loss equipment and troops. Bhai Pakistan ke Sectarian Andh bhakts alaag hi level pe hai haha

 

[r3alist]

 

[Starlord]

Yeh chutiye kisi din pitte ga kisi President ki security guard se lol

 

[Pakistan First]

Israel is more invested than almost any other country in the al Sauds continuing in power. Remember that Iran was Israel's best friend, along with the Kemalist generals, under the Pahlavis. Israel knows very well that the al Sauds are their best bet and any other government in Nejd and Hezaz would be far more hostile to them. The threats to the bin Salman al Sauds are from Iran, Yemen, the sidelined al Sauds and the people they rule over.

Incorrect.


House of Saud, with military campaigns & partnerships unified all that land which is called KSA today in 1930s. This whole territory was divided, independently ruled by small tribes. The whole land was vulnerable and open to be attacked by any power. Imagine if House of Saud would not have succeeded, Islam's holiest sites would be among various tribes. Most likely it would be actual territory of Zionists or Americans instead just being allegedly "influenced" by them.

I see lot of unjust criticism on KSA mostly by people who have sectarian hatreds built into them. They can't even see that what else would have been the greatest opportunity for KSA to openly join the war. They decided not to participate with their own airforce and own money in this war (except some american controlled and american operated bases, for which they have no authority over). KSA didn't go into war against Iran despite MASSIVE pressure by the US. The dead Lindsey Graham was publicly scolding KSA to join the war. So just imagine how much pressure they sustained privately.

Lastly, House of Saud has been one of the closest and sincere friends of Pakistan. We have been robbed by our own leaders but Saudis kept funding whenever state needed it. Not to mention most amount of Pakistanis work there and send money back home.

Now coming back to Israel. Think for yourself with all honesty and tell me who has final and absolute say in KSA ? Is it democracy ? Not at all. MBS is absolute monarch in KSA and no one in KSA would have been able to say a word against him if he'd have decided to go into Abraham accords. The man has resisted entire pressure of US & West and always says about Palestine before joining any accords. Trump sits besides him and tells him to join Abraham accords and he replies that first issue of Palestine needs to be resolved. So Israel always wants its all neighborhood to be divided, like what it did in Syria, a divided, broken saudi will be absolutely beneficial for Israel. However fortunately, KSA's internal security & Intelligence is top notch. One language, one sect and one culture in all of the country. Unlike other countries like ours where separatism can be fueled based on ethnicity. So KSA is firmly united today.

Now you guys who out of sectarian hatreds always cry against Arabs and God given wealth to them always find lame excuses. What do you expect Saudis to do ? They are a small population country. They have small military, they are not a super power. They have to keep things balanced, they are also making partnerships and relationships with Russia and China. They have to carefully maneuver. In contrast, what us Pakistan has done for Gaza or for anything else?

Hillariously, I even see some people saying that KSA was a british project LOL!... even though it was military / strategic genius of house of saud to unify all the territories. Yes they were smart and make friendship with britishers. Britishers also sensed that they are most powerful tribe on rise, so be their friends. It was largely local arab movement. It wasn't a "british project". Infact Division of India is mostly acknowledged everywhere as "Project of britishers". Britishers felt that united india could become a great power and threat to west. So we should understand that its too easy to throw accusations. People can accuse things the way they think, not neccessarily those are true.

 

[K2RULEZ]

Very awkward Modi.

 

[maxpane]

Bhai mere, we have some members still doing Randi rona for ISI role in Afghan war with Soviets, imagine if PA actually start military operations then these same people will cry for next 3 decades, and pass down their randi rona to their future generations. These people IQ is equal to Indian lund Bhakts, if Pakistan do nothing they mock Pakistan/MDA for been incompetent, useless etc, but if PA in haste start military operations and troops die as result (which is normal) then the same people will criticize the Generals to not think this through, woh kehte hai na kisi haal mai khush nai hai BSDK lol

Its actually quite funny to see people mocking MDA which was literally signed 2 months ago, and had just one formal meeting while the whole region is already on fire, they had no chance for coorporations, exercises or even defence projects to start but somehow expect the Pakistan or Turkiye to just jump blindly into a counter insurgency operations in Yemen and loss equipment and troops. Bhai Pakistan ke Sectarian Andh bhakts alaag hi level pe hai haha

bhai hamari awam hi gandu ha. irani apne mulk k khilaf nahn jayen ge chahe kayamst ajaye. egypt saudi sari dunia k log apne mulk k khilaf aik word nahn sun sakty. aik hamari gandu awam ha irani mulk ka mazak uraty hain ur ye chutiye pora sath de rahy hoty hain

 

[Starlord]

bhai hamari awam hi gandu ha. irani apne mulk k khilaf nahn jayen ge chahe kayamst ajaye. egypt saudi sari dunia k log apne mulk k khilaf aik word nahn sun sakty. aik hamari gandu awam ha irani mulk ka mazak uraty hain ur ye chutiye pora sath de rahy hoty hain

exactly, as I always say... Pakistan ki qismaat kharab hai, Zameen mili banjer aur awaam mili kanjer.

 

[Watandar]

bhai hamari awam hi gandu ha. irani apne mulk k khilaf nahn jayen ge chahe kayamst ajaye. egypt saudi sari dunia k log apne mulk k khilaf aik word nahn sun sakty. aik hamari gandu awam ha irani mulk ka mazak uraty hain ur ye chutiye pora sath de rahy hoty hain

Tumhari awaam mai koi masla naheen hai, tumhari baiwakuff corrupt aur nikammi Establishment hee masla hai. Unn kai kartoot par baat karna sahee hai aur parda daalna asal jurm hai.

Agar sahee rastay par chaal rahay ho aur haalat itnay achay hai to phir baat karney say kyun itnay dartay hou ? Daal mai kuch kala hoga na ?

Jinn mulk ka aap nai naam liyanai hai Egypt Saudi Iran waghera yeh koi Pakistani awaam kai liyay model naheen hai. Hum to baat karenge Pakistan kai haalat par.

Acha to atay hain iss pact par. Jab apna mulk sambhala naheen ja raha to aap Middle East kaise sambhalain gaye ?

Zara batayiye.

 

[maxpane]

Tumhari awaam mai koi masla naheen hai, tumhari baiwakuff corrupt aur nikammi Establishment hee masla hai. Unn kai kartoot par baat karna sahee hai aur parda daalna asal jurm hai.

Agar sahee rastay par chaal rahay ho aur haalat itnay achay hai to phir baat karney say kyun itnay dartay hou ? Daal mai kuch kala hoga na ?

Jinn mulk kee tum nai baat kee hai Egypt Saudi Iran waghera yeh koi Pakistani awaam kai liyay model naheen hai. Hum to baat karenge Pakistan hai haalat par.

bhai ye chutypan apne local issue walw forum pe acha lagta ha wahan kato..main kisi irani ko ye ijazat nahn dn ga k wo mere mulk ka mazak uraye .its simple..ye corruption ye establishment ak rando rona aik kha sjaga pe acha pe acha lgta ha..logun k samne auntiyun ki tarah shor macahane se nahn.
ap local issue k thread pe ja k jo bolo maon ne kuch kaha? is thread mainirani mulk ka mazak uraty hain . un behan chodun k thread main ja k iran k khilaf bol.k dikhao agly aik sec bardasht nahn karen ge. so ye choran idhe ena becho. jab se irani moderator ne Paksitan k khilaf meme lagai ha ..mujhy ab wo zehar lagta ha

 

[Pakistani Dragon]

Why can't it be both ? It is a hastily arranged poorly thought out pact and has already lost its credibility and exposed its organizers.

How so when the Foreign Minister has confirmed that both Pakistan and Saudi Arabia had been working on the Defence Pact since 2022?

Is your source of understanding normally based on the research done by PTI Shaikh Chilli Institute (PSCI)?