Makkah Defence Alliance: Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan, news & updates

Watandar said:
No my dear the world is not that cookie cutter. India/Pakistan were created post WW2 by an exhausted British to satisfy the demands of a long running native political movement that wanted independence. Post independence the two countries took different paths with India aligning with the Soviets and Pakistan with the US.

This is a different story from the creation of the nations of the modern middle East , which encompasses the period 1910 to 1930 and almost entirely relies of the British imperialists empowering local chieftains to first fight the Ottomans, and then each other to form new countries. These counties than acted as client states of the British uptill WW2 and of the US after WW2.

You would know this if you had actually read a history book.
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Why they should not have gained power and control and unified arabia ? They did great! For them and their tribe. Anybody would have done the same in their circumstances or atleast tried to do the same.

World is game of power & politics. I am getting tired to explain you that nobody is evil and nobody is hero in this political power. You can't paint a fantasy picture that country A is good because you are ethnically or sect wise associated to them and country B is bad because they have different ethnicity or religion or sect. World is not like that.
 
Watandar said:
the ignorant and backward Wahhabi school of thought
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Let's not drag this to a religious debate. Whatever your beliefs are could be targeted as well. Everyone will go in their own graves, so let's not argue who is correct and who is wrong. Its a futile debate. Everyone will answer for themselves. I don't want to attack on what's ignorant / biddat.... I am strictly against all sects. Enough of shia / sunni BS. You guys always fuel division. That is reason why everything is messed up. Stop your obsession & hatred for others. Stop getting jealous of God's given wealth to other countries. Its not your achievement in what part of world, what part of sect you were born. It was not your choice. You could have been very well born in a household that had customs / nationality which you despise today. You are so divided in political / ethnic lines. I feel sorry literally. Change yourself. Its not just you. Many I see who blindly take a side and don't even think. I condemn everyone. I appreciate even enemies. because I am "free" from all this BS. I supported Iran all this war as it was fighting Israel. But anways.
 
Pakistan First said:
Let's not drag this to a religious debate. Whatever your beliefs are could be targeted as well. Everyone will go in their own graves, so let's not argue who is correct and who is wrong. Its a futile debate. Everyone will answer for themselves. I don't want to attack on what's ignorant / biddat.... I am strictly against all sects. Enough of shia / sunni BS. You guys always fuel division. That is reason why everything is messed up. Stop your obsession & hatred for others. Stop getting jealous of God's given wealth to other countries. Its not your achievement in what part of world, what part of sect you were born. It was not your choice. You could have been very well born in a household that had customs / nationality which you despise today. You are so divided in political / ethnic lines. I feel sorry literally. Change yourself. Its not just you. Many I see who blindly take a side and don't even think. I condemn everyone. I appreciate even enemies. because I am "free" from all this BS. I supported Iran all this war as it was fighting Israel. But anways.
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Another useless rant. Post on the topic of this thread please.
 
Watandar said:
Another useless rant. Post on the topic of this thread please.
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You win bro! : ) Hope you will learn a thing or two from that post (ameen). It was written with honest heart. I am sure now you will reply to stick to topic, while yourself polluted the thread with your sectarian talk. You can't resist. Do you?
 
Eşbah said:
FYI
The pact still doesn't exist in reality.
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In "Intelligence Games" nothing "officially" exists in "black and white"; it's always a "grey zone" ops vs "grey zone" ops....

Housi is a "grey zone" ops by the "usual suspects (known for a thousand years)"....

The Pak Chief FM Asim Munir is a former ISI and MI boss....

The Turkish FM Hakan Fidan is a former MIT boss....

As for "Yavuz sultan Selim", "Shah Ismail" is no unknown material....

By the by, the KSA folks need to appreciate the Misak-i Mekka; hence, they need to desperately and urgently mend their mindset, especially now that they can see death approaching quite fast....
 
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The KSA folks must listen to the Turkish and Pak Deep States by swallowing down their arrogance and ego, or die....

They must understand they're now under attack by "Abraha", and Pak and Turkey are sent as "Ababeel" by HIM to protect HIS HOUSE in this Dunya....


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Watandar said:
Because Pakistanis have been indoctrinated to literally worship the holy al Sauds since the 1980s and some of them are feeling pain at the comeuppance of the Al Sauds.

Many of them even think "Saudi Arabia" has existed since the 7th century and not that it is a creation of the British Empire in the 1920's.
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And today Pakistanis have been indoctrinated to worship IRGC meanwhile their own people are trying to escape this cult but Muslims specially those living in the west reaping the benefits of capitalist society are supporting IRGC and its proxy Houthis and wont last a single day in that society.
 
£3 a litre diesel coming soon :let’s see how many of you will still support Houthis. Bombing Saudi pipelines.
 
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