Makkah Defence Alliance: Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan, news & updates

[Pakistan First]

No my dear the world is not that cookie cutter. India/Pakistan were created post WW2 by an exhausted British to satisfy the demands of a long running native political movement that wanted independence. Post independence the two countries took different paths with India aligning with the Soviets and Pakistan with the US.

This is a different story from the creation of the nations of the modern middle East , which encompasses the period 1910 to 1930 and almost entirely relies of the British imperialists empowering local chieftains to first fight the Ottomans, and then each other to form new countries. These counties than acted as client states of the British uptill WW2 and of the US after WW2.

You would know this if you had actually read a history book.

Why they should not have gained power and control and unified arabia ? They did great! For them and their tribe. Anybody would have done the same in their circumstances or atleast tried to do the same.

World is game of power & politics. I am getting tired to explain you that nobody is evil and nobody is hero in this political power. You can't paint a fantasy picture that country A is good because you are ethnically or sect wise associated to them and country B is bad because they have different ethnicity or religion or sect. World is not like that.

 

[Pakistan First]

the ignorant and backward Wahhabi school of thought

Let's not drag this to a religious debate. Whatever your beliefs are could be targeted as well. Everyone will go in their own graves, so let's not argue who is correct and who is wrong. Its a futile debate. Everyone will answer for themselves. I don't want to attack on what's ignorant / biddat.... I am strictly against all sects. Enough of shia / sunni BS. You guys always fuel division. That is reason why everything is messed up. Stop your obsession & hatred for others. Stop getting jealous of God's given wealth to other countries. Its not your achievement in what part of world, what part of sect you were born. It was not your choice. You could have been very well born in a household that had customs / nationality which you despise today. You are so divided in political / ethnic lines. I feel sorry literally. Change yourself. Its not just you. Many I see who blindly take a side and don't even think. I condemn everyone. I appreciate even enemies. because I am "free" from all this BS. I supported Iran all this war as it was fighting Israel. But anways.

 

[Watandar]

Let's not drag this to a religious debate. Whatever your beliefs are could be targeted as well. Everyone will go in their own graves, so let's not argue who is correct and who is wrong. Its a futile debate. Everyone will answer for themselves. I don't want to attack on what's ignorant / biddat.... I am strictly against all sects. Enough of shia / sunni BS. You guys always fuel division. That is reason why everything is messed up. Stop your obsession & hatred for others. Stop getting jealous of God's given wealth to other countries. Its not your achievement in what part of world, what part of sect you were born. It was not your choice. You could have been very well born in a household that had customs / nationality which you despise today. You are so divided in political / ethnic lines. I feel sorry literally. Change yourself. Its not just you. Many I see who blindly take a side and don't even think. I condemn everyone. I appreciate even enemies. because I am "free" from all this BS. I supported Iran all this war as it was fighting Israel. But anways.

Another useless rant. Post on the topic of this thread please.

 

[Pakistan First]

Another useless rant. Post on the topic of this thread please.

You win bro! : ) Hope you will learn a thing or two from that post (ameen). It was written with honest heart. I am sure now you will reply to stick to topic, while yourself polluted the thread with your sectarian talk. You can't resist. Do you?

 

[Watandar]

Al Jazeera article on the Makkah pact, written by a guy at a govt funded think tank in Islamabad.

Will the Houthi attacks activate the Mecca Pact?

If there is a Saudi request, Pakistan and Turkiye will intervene, but direct involvement in the Yemen war is unlikely.

www.aljazeera.com

 

[Eşbah]

FYI
The pact still doesn't exist in reality.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

FYI
The pact still doesn't exist in reality.

In "Intelligence Games" nothing "officially" exists in "black and white"; it's always a "grey zone" ops vs "grey zone" ops....

Housi is a "grey zone" ops by the "usual suspects (known for a thousand years)"....

The Pak Chief FM Asim Munir is a former ISI and MI boss....

The Turkish FM Hakan Fidan is a former MIT boss....

As for "Yavuz sultan Selim", "Shah Ismail" is no unknown material....

By the by, the KSA folks need to appreciate the Misak-i Mekka; hence, they need to desperately and urgently mend their mindset, especially now that they can see death approaching quite fast....

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

The KSA folks must listen to the Turkish and Pak Deep States by swallowing down their arrogance and ego, or die....

They must understand they're now under attack by "Abraha", and Pak and Turkey are sent as "Ababeel" by HIM to protect HIS HOUSE in this Dunya....

Houthis Strike a Deal with the US! Will Saudi Arabia Be Next? | Mushahid Hussain’s Key Statement​

 

[flyingorca]

Because Pakistanis have been indoctrinated to literally worship the holy al Sauds since the 1980s and some of them are feeling pain at the comeuppance of the Al Sauds.

Many of them even think "Saudi Arabia" has existed since the 7th century and not that it is a creation of the British Empire in the 1920's.

And today Pakistanis have been indoctrinated to worship IRGC meanwhile their own people are trying to escape this cult but Muslims specially those living in the west reaping the benefits of capitalist society are supporting IRGC and its proxy Houthis and wont last a single day in that society.

 

[KingQamaR]

FYI
The pact still doesn't exist in reality.

Alliances normally don’t cover existing conflicts like the one in Yemen which has been ongoing since at least 2015.

 

[KingQamaR]

£3 a litre diesel coming soon :let’s see how many of you will still support Houthis. Bombing Saudi pipelines.

 

[Ravenman]

The shit hit the fan already.

All economies will fall in recession, even the two greatest production hubs (China & Germany).

Rising diesel and food prices, not enough fertilizers, shippingcosts skyrocketing, falling gold prizes, global femine is coming.

Only 2 counties unharmed: Switserland and Israel.

Than you Iran, for this mess.

 

[Feroze]

Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, and Turkey, Great Alliance!

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

The shit hit the fan already.

All economies will fall in recession, even the two greatest production hubs (China & Germany).

Rising diesel and food prices, not enough fertilizers, shippingcosts skyrocketing, falling gold prizes, global femine is coming.

Only 2 counties unharmed: Switserland and Israel.

Than you Iran, for this mess.

Yeah thank you Iran for being attacked 2x times By US & Israel during negotiations, while you agreed with 0% enrichment. Thank you Iran for living under sanctions for 47 years and your schoolchildren and infrastructure getting bombed and your diplomats, leaders and scientists assassinated. Thank you evil Iran for this mess.

/S

 

[313Ghazi]

@Owaiz @Watandar

I am appalled by you guys trying to paint that House of Saud was Israeli / west supporter and Iran was anti-west / anti-israel. Well, how do you define below events then ? and how then you will support your fake narrative that arab states are puppets?

Arabs put a ban on export of OIL to Western countries While Iran supported Western countries and Israel.
1- In 1970s, United States announced a major $22 million military resupply package for Israel - OAPEC led prominently by Saudi Arabia's King Faisal retaliated hard. Putting complete blanket ban on export of oil to all western countries that supported Israel like United States, the Netherlands, the United Kingdom, Canada, Japan, and other nations perceived as pro-Israel, alongside severe production cuts.

Iran’s Position During the Embargo

• No Participation: Iran rejected to join embargo against Western countries.
• Profiteering: The Shah aggressively pushed for higher oil prices within OPEC meetings but publicly urged the Arab states to lift the embargo, warning that it would damage the global economy and backfire on producers.
• Supplying the West and Israel: Iran continued shipping petroleum to Western countries and remained a quiet, vital oil supplier to Israel during this period.

So, read history before blaming arabs for being puppets. It was Iran, who was lifeline for the west and Israel for greater period of 20th century.

It's easy to make a narrative if you choose to select history from a certain point.

The Arabs who you claim to be Anti Israel are the very reason Israel exists. They rebelled against the Caliphate and welcomed the British into the middle East.

Go a bit further back and we know the shia Persian empires fought against the Ottomans for centuries.