Makkah Defence Alliance: Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan, news & updates

[retaxis]

I am not saying this is the truth but it could be considered a possible scenario

Trump couldn't rope in NATO or even NON-nato allies in IRan war so he might have created this alliance hoping they would do the dirty ground work for him in this war. We know how much US influences all 3 countries and are allied with 3 all countries and Trump was visibly happy with this alliance.

Other than that there are some practical aspect of this alliance but the Saudis are forced by Americans to invest trillions into US/West. Even if Saudi wanted to, they don't have the permission to invest in muslim countries in great capacity.

Good thing is this alliance makes indians think twice about attacking Pakistan but I still wouldn't game plan any war with India thinking turkish or saudi soldiers will rock up. They will give material support sure just like EU to Ukraine but you don't need to be allies to give material support.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

I am all in to liberate KSA from tyrants who only spread terrorism in neighbouring countries through their madrassa policy... Nothing came any good out of this country's stupid leadership for muslims or for the world on general...

on the flip side, zios have showed the cards

if we want to do something, this is the time, we can calm things down on both sides!

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

I agree with the person, the main reason for such rash decision from Iran is due to lack of proper leadership, their seasoned Political leaders are either dead or hiding from the IRGC Fanatics, in Iran war main thread one can see how many members wants to see Iranian current political leaders hanged and consider them to be traitors, right now Iran is running like a nation that is on a total nihilistic path, local/regional commanders are making their own decisions to launch strikes or simply refusing to follow the points approved by the negotiating teams, we are not hearing much from the local Iranian social media or news but one can imagine that how much of a crisis of leadership is. Sonner or later the public opinion over the war will change, those who were once supporters of Iran will eventually see their behavior as bullying and irrational, not talking about the Sectarian zombies because they don't have brains to think.

I understand that Iran needs to survive this war because a stable Iran is important for region and Pakistan's due to its shared border, but if Pakistan has to stand among the world which include Europe/America/Middle East then eventually somethings will change, unless some sensible leadership emerges from Iran. Hezbullah is pretty much done for, they are scraping for survival, Hamas is gone along with Gaza, Iran's actions cause little to no damage to Israel or benefitted Palestinians one bit, meanwhile all the surrounding GCC countries are now in much more compromised and weaker positions, they are not openly declaring war on Iran but trying to defuse tension so they can go back to making money and screwing exotic model in Million dollar yachts. Countries like Pakistan where economy is arleady struggling due to internal terrorism, corruption and bad governance, such conflict and its reprecussions will beat down the common Pakistani's further. The guy is right to say that Trade will happen if not from traditional routes then countries will find alternative, Iran/Yemen can't just go around attacking other countries from using their own Territory to trade oil, like Iranian attack on Oman was a blunder.

Hopefully this conflict ends soon because from what I am seeing here, yes the lower/middle class in America are complaining about rising Gas prices but they are still going by their day to day life, and sooner or later the opinion will change, and if push comes to shove then more and more countries will join in to secure trade from these two straits, now if Iran wants to fight the whole world for some toll fees and risk their their energy infrastructure (whatever is left of it) then i'd say its definitely a very dumb idea and unnecessary hill to die on.

Too many cooks spoil the broth....

The IRGC has got arrogant and egoistic which are the recipes for a catastrophe....

 

[Abdul q]

on the flip side, zios have showed the cards

if we want to do something, this is the time, we can calm things down on both sides!

Step 1: Take over Saudia,
Step 2: remove sanctions on Saudi's terrorism victims ime. Yemen.
Step 3: provide Yemenis with food which access was denied by the Saudis

Step 1: can be a Pakistani style regime change.. lol

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Mid-terms were already looking bad, this recent escalation in Bab-al-Mandib will impact more to the poor countries than it will impact Americans, and like I said just like in Pakistan prices of things can go up significantly but people adjust to it after a while, similar to that the high price of Gas in America will hurt people but people will adjust eventually, and it will put negative effct on Iran war. Iran closing its SoH until conflict ends makes sense but if IRGC is pushing Houthis to expand the war into other regions and closing the other straits then people will change their opinion, with time things change and countries adapt but unfortunately in Iran's case, there is no sensible leadership, the new Supreme leader is in hiding, people dont even know if he is alive or dead or just too injured to make any decisions.

Undermine the US resolve, and perish. IMHO the Iranian leadership is making a great blunder. If the USA returns to the theater she will come back with an overwhelming force. Even Pak and Turkey won't be able to assuage that wrath.....

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

Step 1: Take over Saudia,
Step 2: remove sanctions on Saudi's terrorism victims ime. Yemen.
Step 3: provide Yemenis with food which access was denied by the Saudis

Step 1: can be a Pakistani style regime change.. lol

replace Saudia with IR!

LOL! thats how readers at PDF would read this

 

[Abdul q]

replace Saudia with IR!

LOL! thats how readers at PDF would read this

Well anyone who doesn't cause terrorism is right for KSA... I would even give it to Vaticans because at least they had balls to condemn attack on Iranian schools.... Spineless lot doesn't deserve holy cities

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

Well anyone who doesn't cause terrorism is right for KSA... I would even give it to Vaticans because at least they had balls to condemn attack on Iranian schools.... Spineless lot doesn't deserve holy cities

unfortunately, thats all we have!

Peace agreement is the only way out!

KSA, can be a useful idiot. At least we can estimate, which direction zios are thinking!

 

[r3alist]

Too many cooks spoil the broth....

The IRGC has got arrogant and egoistic which are the recipes for a catastrophe....

Ultimately, being a forever revolutionary state implies you need someone to have an enemy to emancipate yourself from, do you even remember or care to be ordinary?

Can you even allow it because Irans military is set up for a revolutionary battle of attrition with missiles, if they let's say win the war do they open up, globalise?let the economy normalize, build a conventional military?

Internally Irans social fabric has changed, it's not tolerating conservative norms in the main, the war is keeping it together, but becoming a regional hegemon with Israel intact, the Arabs naked in defence might keep the logic of the revolution alive enough, even the anti islam section ultimately seeks power, seems optimal based on what I laid out.

 

[HAIDER]

100 percent agree sir . no doubt export is declining unfair taxation is hurting a lot . Our elite dnt care about us . Only remittance is thriving

Today a good friend back home, sold his car to meet his living expenses ... ground reality is getting horribe.... (sorry its its no relevent to the topic )

 

[Maarkhoor]

 

[Mobius]

Saudi Barbaria bombing Yemen. Meanwhile.......