Makkah Defence Alliance: Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan, news & updates

Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ said:
Hmm...
You're telling me what?
If you didn't get it... say so... what you've posted is a non sequitur.

So, let me break it to you... the modern Muslim!
Makkah per our faith was a desolate, barren land... devoid of life!
When Ibrahim(A.S.) was commanded to leave his wife and child ON NOTHING BUT FAITH AND TURN.
That child bawled for water... the mother, ran back and forth in wilderness. Water sprouted for that life in that barren desolate hot valley...
That city doesn’t exist because it was on a waterfront... because it was a lush pasture teaming with life. It exists for one purpose and one purpose alone because THE ALMIGHTY WILLED IT!
And millions take that journey of hardship peering into the void of life... some finding a deeper meaning... others repentance... and some as ultimate worship.
Since then humanity has been through much... that deeper meaning still exists... but people took their world to Makkah instead of bringing some from there back home.

So, to answer you... the modern Muslim suffers the exhaustion of imitation in futility... apping those who lost their ways prior to the renewal.
And this will continue till we need another
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Whatever you just said now show me with reference from Quran or Hadiths which says that surrounding orignial structure of Mecca must be preserved.
stop presenting your opinion as perfect form of Islam.
 
Abdul q said:
Do you expect these wahabi who think they own Islam to not condemn those attacks?? Not even from holy mosque a single word utter
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Why is that certian types of Pakistanis from specific political mindset every single time have to respond with whataboutism instead of admitting for once that yeah they are wrong? No one here is saying Saudia is perfect example of Islam but its you people you present Iran as new daddy of Muslim ummah.
 
Starlord said:
I mean you can't deny the reality which is right in front of you right? Sunni or Shia what does it matter? yes as Sunni we have seen that Arab world did nothing to stop the Genocide, and cozy up to Israel. But Iran after getting attack by Israel what did they do? its been months since Israel experience a Attack from Iran, you can call that amazing planning it to how they created a self sustaining conflict in ME while they sit back and ethnically cleanse Palestinians, Iranians often shout they are fighting for Palestinian but that's not the case besides in the head of some sectarian zombies, yes Arabs were no champions either but they at least build massive economies, they build strong Air forces which can if act collectively can take on bigger enemies. One can say that Arabs were biting time until the Power of US weaken, but its a slow game or can be false completely.

Iran is the useful threat Israel wants to keep ally until they are fully ready to make their move on the "Sunni Evil Axis" but this MDA if successful could've been a hurdle but it seems like people are so much in a hurry to mock it, disregard its potential, they just want the countries to jump on Yemen when the MDA was signed less than 2 months ago. US just approved 2.8 billion dollars weapon sales to Israel, they will be ready for another genocide within 6-12 months, and Arabs now have to worry about Israel expansionism and Iran's bullying, where does it all end? you guess is good as mine.
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Chinese role is kind of important.

They are helping Iran but also via Pakistan important to the treaty

Tbh I am surprised Iran is not being reigned in a bit
 
flyingorca said:
Whatever you just said now show me with reference from Quran or Hadiths which says that surrounding orignial structure of Mecca must be preserved.
stop presenting your opinion as perfect form of Islam.
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Mecca structure/building/business and its surroundings (objects which existed before Islam and were visited by pagans) are not more important than the lives of Yemeni and Palestinian children. Anyways AnsarAllah as muslims respect Mecca and medina.
 
flyingorca said:
Why is that certian types of Pakistanis from specific political mindset every single time have to respond with whataboutism instead of admitting for once that yeah they are wrong? No one here is saying Saudia is perfect example of Islam but its you people you present Iran as new daddy of Muslim ummah.
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When did I say that? Yesterday my post got deleted from other thread for alleging UAE Iran ties as suspicious… you conclude things too early… and well Idc about Muslim Ummah especially if the words are coming from Saudis due to which Pakistan has still extremism… Yemen is another victim of those terrorists and so is much of middle east… holy cities need to be freed
 
Starlord said:
Saudi's have no one but themselves to blame, their military is terrible as they keep buying not just American systems but renting out people to operate them, Turkiye-Pakistan lost soldiers in hard-difficult areas fighting insurgencies, specially in case of Pakistan with 10% of the resources we have compared to Saudi's, and not one Arab country have supported Pakistan. KSA refused to fix the gaps in their military thinking that as long as America is in the region they are safe, and wont need to fight, well now who got the egg on their face?
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If the assertions in the following video regarding the RSAF F-15 downing is true, it's more than pathetic! Not only their platforms are compromised, the training is intentionally organized to be a garbage case! I am pretty sure a PAF pilot on an F-7 would have put a poles-apart performance! No wonder the Misak-i Mekka has put them into a panic mode...

Confirmed! Saudi F-15 Shot Down | Insane Houthi Air Defense Footage | Defence Outpost​

 
Hakikat ve Hikmet said:
If the assertions in the following video regarding the RSAF F-15 downing is true, it's more than pathetic! Not only their platforms are compromised, the training is intentionally organized to be a garbage case! I am pretty sure a PAF pilot on an F-7 would have put a poles-apart performance! No wonder the Misak-i Mekka has put them into a panic mode...

Confirmed! Saudi F-15 Shot Down | Insane Houthi Air Defense Footage | Defence Outpost​

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why are not they using long range air to surface missile alcm ?
 
Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ said:
Noted...
Not my job...

You have an argument. Present it.
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You are the one making up false claim that current infrastructure in and around mecca is not according to Islam. It is your job to back up your argument with real reference not your imagination.
I already presented my argument.
 
Abdul q said:
When did I say that? Yesterday my post got deleted from other thread for alleging UAE Iran ties as suspicious… you conclude things too early… and well Idc about Muslim Ummah especially if the words are coming from Saudis due to which Pakistan has still extremism… Yemen is another victim of those terrorists and so is much of middle east… holy cities need to be freed
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Certain group of Yemenis brought this situation to themselves which is a Iranian proxie. They are no different then TTP which is back by Afghanistan and their ideology aligns with each other against Pakistan. Iran would do exactly the same as Saudis are doing against Houthis if Saudia props up its proxy at Iranian border. Iran had issues with Iraqi Sunni government and were happy with American backed Shia government.
Replace Holy city with what? Khat muncher druggies? Or red light district cult? You need to read a thing or two about religious reforms Iranian mullah regime introduced which is the very reason why alot of Iranians hate Islam. Or try to advocate non shia Islam as alternative to current IRGC and see what happens to you.
Like I said, Iran is just Israel's controlled opponents.
 
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