Makkah Joint Defense Agreement: Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan, news & updates

Why do Jolani/al Nusra and his Turkish handlers escape accountability for the Syria war ? They proved the most efficient killers, hence they won and now rule the place.

Opportunistic, amoral and ruthless Turks now spot a new opportunity to serve the West in this American defeat and retrenchment to Jordan/Israel, against Iran and allies.

But the old problem remains , you will never be accepted as Europeans.

Jolani's new Syria with Turkish political support has no place in the Great Israel Project.

The Great Israel Project has a tripled down Syria in 3 parts:

Druze Part (controlled by IDF)
Kurdish State (controlled by USA)
Sunni Part (landlocked and independant)

None of this succeed.

There is now just one Syria with Damascus as its capital, the only problems are the IDF controlled 'bufferzones' bordering the Golan, and the Golan Heights itself.

Israel cant move further in Syria thanks to Turkey and they dont like this.
 
Jolani's new Syria with Turkish political support has no place in the Great Israel Project.

The Great Israel Project has a tripled down Syria in 3 parts:

Druze Part (controlled by IDF)
Kurdish State (controlled by USA)
Sunni Part (landlocked and independant)

None of this succeed.

There is now just one Syria with Damascus as its capital, the only problems are the IDF controlled 'bufferzones' bordering the Golan, and the Golan Heights itself.

Israel cant move further in Syris thanks to Turkey and they dont like this.

Also unlike Assads iranian backers, Turkish backing will bring serious military capabilities with it. Each year the available tools to syria will increase.

Also Turkiye will not need 50 years to achieve nothing, within 10 years you will drastic changes in syria.
 
It is mainly a defensive agreement so if nobody attacks, it will be a useless pact. But in case of aggression from third country, it only guarantees the security of Pakistan, Saudi and Turkey… not Gaza or Turkmenistan.

What matters to me that what happens next… if these nations will increase collaboration in Defense industry and make new weapons with shared knowledge and technology or it will remain a piece of paper which may or may not be useful
Yeah, that’s reasonable in theory. But the timing is a bit suspicious. And it’s a shame that Muslims could not unite in this way in response to a genocide.
 
When the time is right, the iranians will spit in your face. Turkiye helped them many times over the years, they've always ended up spiting Turkiye until they needed Turkiye again.

They have an attitude where they could be killing you today but then tomorrow act like their your best friend only for the following day to go back to killing you.

Just pay attention to the bitterness so many iranians have displayed over this defence pact. Pakistan is helping them diplomatically, Turkiye thwarted the kurds being used against Iran. But their never truly grateful.

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When this ugly looking clown was taken out by a US airstrike in Iraq, the iranian response was to send missiles into Pakistan and missiles into Turkish controlled idlib. Honestly their clowns.

Even when the isrealis starting bombing the shit out of iran, the iranians sent a few missiles into Turkiye as a "threat" while claiming it wasnt them. Always hiding behind plausible deniability. They have no sense of honour.

95% of the people iran has murdered in the region has been Muslim.
99% of the people Turkey and her proxies have killed in Iraq, Syria, Armenia and Kurdish areas in the last 50 years have been Muslims too. The Saudis and Pakistan have a similarly dismal record.

Who do the Turks, Saudis and Pakistanis work for at the end of the day ? The US.
 
Jolani's new Syria with Turkish political support has no place in the Great Israel Project.

The Great Israel Project has a tripled down Syria in 3 parts:

Druze Part (controlled by IDF)
Kurdish State (controlled by USA)
Sunni Part (landlocked and independant)

None of this succeed.

There is now just one Syria with Damascus as its capital, the only problems are the IDF controlled 'bufferzones' bordering the Golan, and the Golan Heights itself.

Israel cant move further in Syria thanks to Turkey and they dont like this.
Syria is now a wreck thanks to a long civil war funded and directed by Israel, Turkey and the USA and its future is now hostage to a Turkish/Israeli wrestling match for domination. Greater Israel is very much in play.
 
Also unlike Assads iranian backers, Turkish backing will bring serious military capabilities with it. Each year the available tools to syria will increase.

Also Turkiye will not need 50 years to achieve nothing, within 10 years you will drastic changes in syria.

Exactly. Turkey is not a country with an army like Iran.

Its an army with a country (as bonus).

Everywhere they go for support or training, you see clearly results (Somalia, North-Cyprus, Bosnia, Azerbaijan, Kosovo, Libya, North-Sudan).

They will morph Syria from a failed state into a strong state with a army, airforce and navy within 10 years.

The biggest problem are the sanctions that block the investments. The US and EU promised Jolani to remove them but i am not sure what the status is.

Israel doesnt like sanction-free Syria, sanction-free Turkey, sanction-free Lebanon or a sanction-free Iran. They need failed states as neighbours.
 
Yeah, that’s reasonable in theory. But the timing is a bit suspicious. And it’s a shame that Muslims could not unite in this way in response to a genocide.
I agree with you that Muslim could not unite in this way to protect Gaza from genocide. It’s sad and something needs to be done about it.

But Muslim nations first need to protect themselves before thinking of protecting others.

Unfortunately no Muslim nation of the world is powerful enough to protect others. This hybrid combination of (strong military of Pakistan + advanced technology of Turkey and trillion dollar reserves of Saudis) can help in foundations of strong military force for Muslim world. More nations can be added later but that should not be immediately goal of these founding members
 
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Syria is now a wreck thanks to a long civil war funded and directed by Israel, Turkey and the USA and its future is now hostage to a Turkish/Israeli wrestling match for domination. Greater Israel is very much in play.

Greater Israel is now paused because of Turkish support for Jolani and the Iranian war.

Greater Israel will continue when Turkey or Iran are pulling back or definitly defeated.

Its now a stahlmate and the IDF doesnt like it because they have no time for a status quo. They need escalation to push Turkey and Iran back in turmoil.
 
Even CNN and some major news outlets have paid attention to this big alliance.

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If India and Pakistan have another military 'skirmish', do Pakistanis now expect that Saudi Arabia, which has extensive trade relations with India, will openly and militarily support Pakistan against India?

It is not clear who this alliance is aimed at countering. It certainly isn't Israel, since 3 years of genocide against Sunni Muslims in Gaza did not result in this alliance.

Quite with the sectarianism on here and go back to Iran thread, last time anyone even disagrees with you on the threads you moderate you ban them. Funny how you are not so thin skinned when it comes to Pakistan.
 
From Pakistan's perspective, Iran and Greece didn't have malicious intentions towards Pakistan, at least before this pact was signed. This pact is just going to add to countries that see us hostile, especially Iran, with which we share a very long border.

Will soldiers from Turkiye and Saudi Arabia come to shed blood with our soldiers who keep getting martyred in KP and Balochistan where the insurgencies would be further inflamed by the faultlines this agreement will deepen.

Again same old trollinng BS and posts liked by the same old gang, almost as if you cordinate with each other....
 
Yeah, that’s reasonable in theory. But the timing is a bit suspicious. And it’s a shame that Muslims could not unite in this way in response to a genocide.

The treaty is a consequence of the genocide, it is a consequence of the reality of Greater Israel, and it is the consequence of the USA pulling out of the middle east and there needing to be something to fill the vacuum. The genocide I guess had to(unfortunately) take place to finally unite these countries with common cause.
 

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