Mark Carney says Canada ‘at war’ with US over trade

[lightning f57]

Yes I know from other posts as well that you enjoy this. He's just talking out of his ass and hasn't done anything to acquire Canada, Greenland or the Strait

He might have limited control over the straight and that's about it.

I mean enjoy yourself but I wouldn't hold my breath at him doing any of these things

His completely screwing your countries relations with key allies. Trust deficit is a thing now and whether that can be dealt with post trump remains to be seen. The damage his doing could be long term.

 

[KAL-EL]

His completely screwing your countries relations with key allies. Trust deficit is a thing now and whether that can be dealt with post trump remains to be seen. The damage his doing could be long term.

Oh, it's going to be long-term. No doubt. It could literally take decades to recover from the damage that scumbball has done

 

[RocketLaw]

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[GoatsMilk]

Are they still sharing intelligence in the 5 eyes network?

 

[Ali_Baba]

Oh, it's going to be long-term. No doubt. It could literally take decades to recover from the damage that scumbball has done

If it was solely a Donald Trump problem, then that damage can be easily recovered with new leadership. However, that is not where the problem is.

The problem is with the entire American political system and the deep state that has allowed him to do all this without any democratic guardrails and without any checks or balances. That is where the trust is gone, it is gone from the American state and political system itself for being so dysfunctional, and that is the part that is pulling countries away from the USA.

No one can believe that the American "state" and institutions is allowing him to do all that he is, it is totally "unchecked" chaos that is "allowed" that is the issue.


( hope i am making my point, etc).

 

[Ali_Baba]

Are they still sharing intelligence in the 5 eyes network?

Yes - but it will be interesting what these countries do, once the USA/Israel militaries get merged and whether they will continue to still share information etc.

 

[KAL-EL]

If it was solely a Donald Trump problem, then that damage can be easily recovered with new leadership. However, that is not where the problem is.

The problem is with the entire American political system and the deep state that has allowed him to do all this without any democratic guardrails and without any checks or balances. That is where the trust is gone, it is gone from the American state and political system itself for being so dysfunctional, and that is the part that is pulling countries away from the USA.

No one can believe that the American "state" and institutions is allowing him to do all that his is, it is "unchecked" chaos that "allowed" that is the issue.


( hope i am making my point, etc).

Yes you have made your point quite well. I still believe because of Trump directly it could be decades until a full recovery is achieved. Of course. I hope I'm wrong cuz I tend to be a glass half full person

 

[PK781]

A complete unforced error on Trump's part. Canada never did anything to the USA. By the way, I'm a US citizen and saying this.

the only thing many/most canadians been doing is avoiding travel to/via the USA, although i've also heard people still going to usa for family visits (obviously everything about "ICE" is exaggerated).

The border towns/cities economies that depend on Canadians visit are struggling and they're pissed at Trump. Even some snowbirds avoided usa since Trump came into white house.

Lets see which way this tide turns. Not a good thing for both sides right now.

I am surprised at the Canadian govt showing a spine, that's a first. Never expected that to happen in a hundred years,

 

[KAL-EL]

the only thing many/most canadians been doing is avoiding travel to/via the USA, although i've also heard people still going to usa for family visits (obviously everything about "ICE" is exaggerated).

The border towns/cities economies that depend on Canadians visit are struggling and they're pissed at Trump. Even some snowbirds avoided usa since Trump came into white house.

Lets see which way this tide turns. Not a good thing for both sides right now.

I am surprised at the Canadian govt showing a spine, that's a first. Never expected that to happen in a hundred years,

As an American citizen I can say I don't blame Canadians one bit if they don't want a vacation here. A lot of them used to but I'm sure that's going to lower now

I have absolutely nothing against Canada or Canadians

 

[retaxis]

what are the chances Trump militarily threatens Canada? Trump likes to throw his weight around and even talk about annexation. But is Trump really going to do anything or is this another Greenland scenario?

US can do big damage with sanctions and tarrifs against Canada but will also hurt themselves too. Does US want to drive Canada into the arms of China even more?

 

[ety]

what are the chances Trump militarily threatens Canada? Trump likes to throw his weight around and even talk about annexation. But is Trump really going to do anything or is this another Greenland scenario?

US can do big damage with sanctions and tarrifs against Canada but will also hurt themselves too. Does US want to drive Canada into the arms of China even more?

You never know what the mad man is going to do next if he doesn't get his way in trade war with Canada. Never say anything never. He might decide to take a piece of Canada instead if he really get upset and no Americans are going to stop him as seen in the Iran and VZ wars.

 

[retaxis]

You never know what the mad man is going to do next if he doesn't get his way in trade war with Canada. Never say anything never. He might decide to take a piece of Canada instead if he really get upset and no Americans are going to stop him as seen in the Iran and VZ wars.

Do you think Canada has enough leverage like China did to at least come to an amicable agreement? Or will Trump feel like he has to make an example out of Canada.

I hope European middle powers step up and back Canada in their time of need and not let USA push everyone around

 

[Ali_Baba]

what are the chances Trump militarily threatens Canada? Trump likes to throw his weight around and even talk about annexation. But is Trump really going to do anything or is this another Greenland scenario?

US can do big damage with sanctions and tarrifs against Canada but will also hurt themselves too. Does US want to drive Canada into the arms of China even more?

Canada has alot of tools including minerals, oil and energy supplies it can cut off if it chooses to do so. Canada is just going to wait out the fool, as is the rest of the planet is.

"Energy Flows: Canada is the single largest foreign supplier of energy to the U.S. It provides about 60% of U.S. crude oil imports, 99% of its natural gas imports, and 85% of its electricity imports"

 

[ety]

Do you think Canada has enough leverage like China did to at least come to an amicable agreement? Or will Trump feel like he has to make an example out of Canada.

I hope European middle powers step up and back Canada in their time of need and not let USA push everyone around

I think Canada is likely going to compromise in the end. Now it's like bargaining. I don't think Canada can expect EU countries to come to rescue or backing Canada since EU just bend its knees to Trump in its deals with US as always.

 

[retaxis]

Canada has alot of tools including minerals, oil and energy supplies it can cut off if it chooses to do so. Canada is just going to wait out the fool, as is the rest of the planet is.

"Energy Flows: Canada is the single largest foreign supplier of energy to the U.S. It provides about 60% of U.S. crude oil imports, 99% of its natural gas imports, and 85% of its electricity imports"

I think Canada is likely going to compromise in the end. Now it's like bargaining. I don't think Canada can expect EU countries to come to rescue or backing Canada since EU just bend its knees to Trump in its deals with US as always.

I hope Canada stands up to US as Carney made big talk at Davos about new world order now its time for him to back it up. Looks like Canada can put the hurt On US but both economies from my understanding is so intertwined that they will just hurt each other if they take it too far. Trump is fool because if he pushes Canada too hard he will only help China and hurt America.