Mohsin Naqvi signal administrative units or new provinces will be formed at all cost.

[Distant_Observer]

 

[HAIDER]

I think new province was political stunt by Generals. They target something else.

 

[Goenitz]

اس فوج نے اکہتر میں اچھے خاصے صوبے کا ملک بنا دیا تھا صوبے تے شے ای کوئی نہیں
فوج صوبے بنانا چاہتی ہے ، عمران خان صوبے بنانے پر رضامند ہے ۔ اسکے باوجود بہنوں سے ملاقات نہیں ہوسکتی۔ بیٹوں سے بات نہیں ہوسکتی۔ منصوبے ٹھیک بنتے نہیں صوبے بنائیں گے۔​

 

[studsmart]

Pakistan needs smaller non ethnic based administrative units.

 

[PakAl]

I think new province was political stunt by Generals. They target something else.

One reason can be to reduce power of provisional governments. CM of 120m or 80m population v 30m population is more flexible.

 

[PakAl]

More importantly PPP will never give up some form of control of Karachi.
The amount of criminal corrupt enterprise that is run from Karachi for Zardaris rivals what the establishment mafia's various rotating faces do.

PPP is unhappy, they do not want division of Sindh.
Pakistan can keep 4 provinces but copy China style system, China has provinces with population 120m 100m etc and theyre doing well. Will our politicians give up control of financial power.

China's Guangdong province has 126 million people and Henan has nearly 100 million, China operates on a five-tier administrative system:

1. Central Government
2. Provincial Level (22 provinces, 5 autonomous regions, 4 municipalities)
3. Prefecture Level (~330 units)
4. County Level (~2,800 units)
5. Township/Town Level (~40,000 units)
Why it works: In China, provincial governments do not handle day-to-day municipal matters. Prefecture-level cities and counties hold massive regulatory power, keep significant tax revenue, and run local policing, schools, and infrastructure directly. The provincial capital exists mainly for macro-coordination, not micromanagement.

 

[PakAl]

Pakistan's administrative structure is organized into five hierarchical tiers to distribute administrative and revenue management below the provincial level.

1. Provinces (Level 1): The four main federating units—Punjab, Sindh, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa (KP), and Balochistan—along with territories like Islamabad (ICT), Azad Kashmir, and Gilgit-Baltistan.

2. Divisions (Level 2): Administrative clusters of several districts. Pakistan currently has 40 divisions across its provinces and territories (e.g., Lahore Division, Quetta Division), led by a Divisional Commissioner.

3. Districts / Zillas (Level 3): The primary unit of civil administration, law and order, and public service delivery. Pakistan has over 170 districts nationwide, managed by a Deputy Commissioner (DC).

4. Tehsils / Talukas (Level 4): A tehsil (called a taluka in Sindh) is a sub-district administrative unit focused on local municipal services, land records, and tax revenue collection. There are over 500 tehsils across Pakistan.

5. Union Councils (Level 5): The lowest grassroots tier of governance, representing a single large village or a cluster of small urban neighborhoods.

Why the Province Split Issue Persists
Despite having these districts and tehsils, the debate to split the four main provinces into 12 to 20 smaller ones stems from how power is distributed:
Power Bottlenecks at the Capital: While tehsils manage local land records and municipal offices, tax revenues and major budget approvals remain locked at the provincial capital (Lahore, Karachi, Peshawar, Quetta). District and tehsil administrators must constantly defer upward for development projects.
Weak Local Government: Unlike China's empowered prefectures. Pakistan's local body elections at the tehsil/district level are often delayed, leaving local officials with minimal independent power or financial authority.

 

[Yasser76]

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Sums up the economist. Such a pro India rag they do not hide it anymore. In the 90s and 00s they were touting India as the example for the developing world that would overtake China, then May last year they warned Indian strikes on Pakistan could be devastating and bring down Pak government. Gone massively down hill. Defence editor there is Indian too. I cancelled my sub with them stating why

 

[El Sidd]

@PakAl

There was little reason to report the post which quite possibly be an actual serious conversation in some Urs or Mela. Do not abuse the report button and keep an open Sufi mind.

 

[PakAl]

@PakAl

There was little reason to report the post which quite possibly be an actual serious conversation in some Urs or Mela. Do not abuse the report button and keep an open Sufi mind.

Or a Tawheed conference or Ibn Abdul wahab Day or Eid Party mela or Quran Party Mela or Disco DJ conference.

 

[PakAl]

@RescueRanger. Can you please merge the 2 threads on provinces.

 

[RescueRanger]

@RescueRanger. Can you please merge the 2 threads on provinces.

Salam sir, yes, give me some time I'm on a phone today due to work, it's difficult on mobile browser.

 

[El Sidd]

Or a Tawheed conference or Ibn Abdul wahab Day or Eid Party mela or Quran Party Mela or Disco DJ conference.

People would really appreciate some creativity.