New York poised for first South Asian - origin and Muslim mayor as Cuomo concedes to Mamdani

[_Arabia_]

The excitement primarily stems from the fact that the system has enabled a minority to rise and be accepted by their peers through a vote, while also showing that minorities do have a way to respond. The same can't be said of South Asia and the MENA region, where the will of the people is trampled upon.

It proves once again that the American governance system works and is by far the best; regardless of whether his policies work or not, the system has allowed us to filter out the old and bring in a fresh talent pool. It didn't care if he was Sunni, Shia, Wahabi, or any other non-essential sect, or who he was married to. The system allowed people to look past that nonsense and look at him individually as a person.

But as you said, you're looking at it from the outside, and do have the same experience or governance style, or rather, no say in how your country functions.

Let me also say, what America does internally and externally is viewed differently. The average everyday American is more concerned about the internal, and leaves the external to those who know best.

@VCheng

After all of those years you still naively believe in the myth of US democracy and democracy as a whole?

Muslims/non-White people/people not born in the US are barely a minority in NYC anyway. Proves very little. If he had been elected in say Texas or Florida, it would have been another story.

As far as KSA goes, we never adopted or had any Western system of governance and our system is based on ancient Arab and Islamic principles and consensus between major clans, tribes and leadership, without which the ruling representatives would not last for 1 day. We have in person consultations with local leaders and politicians on a daily and weekly basis (Majlis) etc. Completely different system that outsiders do not understand or have much of a clue about.

Pray do share with us the instrument by which to accurately measure other's Muslim-ness.

The point is that the guy is no spokesmen for Islam or Muslims but is running to enrich himself and his family like 99,99% of all politicians in the West.

Same was being said, on a scale 100 times bigger, when Barack Hussein Obama was elected as US president.

Anyway we will see in 4 years time if anything has changed for Muslims in NYC. Personally I doubt that anything will change with this Indian populist in charge.

The west rewards "integration and assimilation". They need brown faces to do the things it's too embarrassing for a white face to do. But it also depends on the individual.

Sajid Javid in UK, a staunch supporter of Israel and Mamdani aren't really the same even if neither has the actual power to do anything about the issue. Mainstreaming anti Zionism from the heart of NYC is not nothing.

Fair point and I do not disagree but don’t forget that most young Jews in NYC, apparently, voted for this Indian. Not sure if he was really truly anti-Jewish, that this would be the case. I am always skeptical about such populists that appear out of nowhere and make 100’s of promises and claims.

No idea how his election changes anything for Muslims in NYC let alone worldwide? What changed with the election of that Pakistani origin London mayor exactly? 100’s of Arab origin mayors, politicians, ministers etc. all across Europe/West and I don’t see any foreign policy changes.

Maybe I have grown too cynical after the genocide in Gaza and the blatant hypocrisy of the West and their so-called values that they have preached to non-Westerners 24/7 for decades.

 

[PakFactor]

Was talking to a friend all of last night about Mandani, he still live in NYC and I think he share some good insight as to why and how he has won.

He said, Mandani don't back off from anything, and instead of saying "i am not this, I am not that" when he was confronted with questions like his religion and where he comes from or his socialist beliefs, he simply said "I am a Muslim, so what?" or "I am a socialist, so what?" He don't back down from his ideology, which people see as authentic, unlike the "establishment" that seems to care about too much being "right" (not political right) than being themselves, and that is a big contrast when you see in 2024 where those dem establishment basically doing photo ops with ex-Republicans and billionaires.

Another thing Mandani stand out is he does had a plan in mind, and have a very well defined goal, he run on afforability, whether it's from cost of living or housing, his plan, now I am not saying it may or may not work, but his plan were there, he want to established state run groceries store, free bus ride, free subway, free childcare, frozen rent, while I don't think many of them are doable, but this is a plan nonetheless, and it is the same thing Spanberger runs on and Sherill runs on, that's hit people nerve especially when Trump promise price will be lower from day 1, which is now almost a years gone, and price is risen by 3%. That seperate Dem and GOP candidate in this election.

As for whether or not this would carry on in 2026 midterm? I don't know, Democrats, if they are wise, they will start seeing this trend and jump on the ship immediately, this isn't something the Dem establishment want to do for some reason, probably because they themselves would be hit, if they don't jump into it, and the ship has sail, this is going to go back to the double hater stage, as for GOP, they need to look at how their message got lost, repair the damage, otherwise they are going to lose the house and the senate next year, and for some reason, Turmp think he is 10 points ahead, it's no longer the situation now (even if there were a time Trump were 10 points ahead, maybe 2 or 3 points, yes, but not 10 points) GOP been losing political capital and that's the reason why they were wipe out last night. It takes the GOP 365 days to lose all the edge they made in these Democratic strongholds in the last 4 years. The issue here is, how much do you think it will affect the purple state? Because those are the races to watch.

Very well stated!

 

[Distant_Observer]

Here is the full statement....

In the spring of 711, a Muslim army invaded Iberia led by Tariq ibn Ziyad, serving the Arab governor Musa ibn Nusayr, at Guadalete they swiftly defeated Roderick the Visigoth King and then marched northward to the Visigoth capital of Toledo. Both Latin and Arabic chroniclers record that the Jews of the city “opened the gates of Toledo” to Tariq, who conquered the city.

The more things change, the more they stay the same. In 1965, Emanuel Celler finally achieved his lifelong goal of opening America’s gates with the passage of the Immigration and Naturalization Act that ended 44 years of a restrictive immigration policy that made the USA the greatest and most powerful country in the world. And now, as a direct result, both the Big Apple and the Mini-Apple are governed by foreign Muslim mayors whose interests are absolutely antithetical to the American “Posterity” for whom the Constitution was written and whose rights it was intended to defend.

“New York will remain a city of immigrants, a city built by immigrants, powered by immigrants. And as of tonight, led by an immigrant.”
— New York City Mayor-Elect Zohran Mamdani

Translation: It will remain a foreign enclave run by foreigners for the benefit of foreigners.

The handwringing by conservatives and by liberal Jews alike about the loss of New York City is as pointless as it is ironic. New York City and every other urban center in the United States long ago ceased to be American. Now they’re just distribution centers for foreign tax farmers redistributing everything that can be skimmed off, stolen, or scammed from the productive to the interest groups presently in demographic power.

None of this is a secret or a surprise to anyone with even a modest grasp of history. Mass immigration marks the end of every society and every empire, even on those occasions when it doesn’t directly cause it. I certainly welcome the new regimes in New York City and Minneapolis, and will watch with interest, if not amusement, to see how they take advantage of the wretched retards who actively encouraged these foreigners to come and rule over them.

I only hope the beleaguered residents of New York City and Minneapolis and other cities blessed with vibrant rule will remember that all the bad things they are complaining about, all the terrible things that they will be complaining about in the future, are things that they were warned about, but dismissed as impossible because they decided those who warned them were bad people.

25 years ago I compared riding the subway in New York City to riding a train in Beirut. Tonight, the city, in great disgrace, elected a muslim socialist to be the next mayor. NEW YORK HAS OFFICIALLY FALLEN.
— John Rocker

I do understand the rationale behind only home born should be allowed to participate in politics.

Someone who has lived his entire life in the country, understands the realities.

I do agree there needs to be zero tolerance on illegals and crime. Trump has been doing a good job cleaning house. Mamdani looks like a soft touch.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

TBH, I have not been following Mr. Mamdani's campaign. But what the outcome DOES underscore is this: Active politics can make a difference in America. I had tried to tell this many times in the Israel-Gaza war thread that there is indeed an American 'Left' presence, and that is not pro Israel, and that is largely reflected in the Democratic Party but there were too many lazy in this forum who had said that AIPAC is insurmountable; they even lumped the candidate Harris with a self-proclaimed Zionist like Biden. Some of those dummies voted for Ms. 0.4% Jill Stein who was even supported by AIPAC to split the progressive vote!! Sigh!

Things change over time in America and what we have now is that for the first time in American history, a slight majority of overall Democratic voters favor Palestinians over Israel and even in the Republican Party there is considerable loss of support for Israel among the younger voters.

America is a mold, it is a country which is constantly evolving, and evolving faster then any other country in the world. And if one truly believes in a 'cause' then start using your brain for a 'change' and politics is the best way to effect that change.

@hussain0216 @Developereo were among the few in the Gaza-Israel war thread who seemed to understand what I was saying. Many others, especially those living in America, were woefully intellectually lazy.

Finally: Congrats Zohran!

Again with the half baked innuendo... the democratic party did not endorse Mamdani... both house minority leader Jeffries, senate minority leader Shumer and NY state democratic party chair Jay Jacobs. All three are from New York and represent the same party. In fact, Cuomo who was in essence the republican candidate owing to the support from all the republicans and asking de facto Sliwa to drop in his favor is a democrat, was the governor of the state.

To your second point... no the republicans are as much if not more averse to supporting Israel than even democrats... zion is a hot potato that no one wants to hold for long... yet to be seen however I speculate that the next election will be decided on the vocal opposition of Israel or actively puzzled to out the true intentions.

 

[Davey Crockett]

 

[Abdul q]

This guy has aura automatically pulling people to himself… i know afew people from different ethnicities from newyork including german, hungarian origin… they have told that MAGA would be nothing what this guy is cooking… let’s see hope for best future for people in there

 

[Meengla]

Again with the half baked innuendo... the democratic party did not endorse Mamdani... both house minority leader Jeffries, senate minority leader Shumer and NY state democratic party chair Jay Jacobs. All three are from New York and represent the same party. In fact, Cuomo who was in essence the republican candidate owing to the support from all the republicans and asking de facto Sliwa to drop in his favor is a democrat, was the governor of the state.

You are nitpicking about it: Yes, the Democratic establishment hasn't supported Mamdani probably because of his overt criticism of Israel--you know, they need the AIPAC money for elections-- but prominent Democrats like Bernie Sanders and many others are still behind Mamdani. But more important than the leadership: The progressives support Mamdani and by far most progressives vote for the Democratic Party and are by far they are more anti-Netanyahu then any other group in America with the exception of Muslim Americans. An elected representative in America is more likely to listen to their political base then not; that's how politics works and not just in America. So strengthen the hand of the political party and its President who is more likely to listen to your voice then not.
OMG! People like you who live in America have not learned one thing about American politics! Well go on, and keep voting for the Ms. 0.4% Jill Stein to split the progressive votes and keep falling in the AIPAC trap forever!

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

An elected representative in America is more likely to listen to their political base then not; that's how politics works and not just in America.

To this point specifically; an elected representative is more likely to toe the line and listen to their party leadership than they are the voices of their constituents. Running for reelection costs money with a lot of that coming from the Party. Cross the party bosses, good luck with your reelection campaign as you aren't getting a cent from the national level.

 

[Oscar]

To this point specifically; an elected representative is more likely to toe the line and listen to their party leadership than they are the voices of their constituents. Running for reelection costs money with a lot of that coming from the Party. Cross the party bosses, good luck with your reelection campaign as you aren't getting a cent from the national level.

Unless off course you can generate an alternate means of matching the PACs.
That is extremely difficult knowing the concentration of wealth in America.
However, money can be somewhat circumvented using assymetrical means and Mamdani has done that to an extent.

That was at a city level - if you try to apply the same at even a state level it gets next to impossible.

 

[Meengla]

To this point specifically; an elected representative is more likely to toe the line and listen to their party leadership than they are the voices of their constituents. Running for reelection costs money with a lot of that coming from the Party. Cross the party bosses, good luck with your reelection campaign as you aren't getting a cent from the national level.

Not always by a long shot. The Democratic Party has many 'dissident' legislators in both the Senate and the House who, for instance, voted against Israel during the recent Israel-Gaza conflict while President Biden and the Democratic establishment were firmly behind Israel. Heck, even in case of Mamdani, the Democratic establishment is not behind him but he still has the support of the likes of AOC, Bernie and many others.
So, with due respect, I don't totally buy the $$ argument as totally applicable though there is some weight to that.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

You are nitpicking about it: Yes, the Democratic establishment hasn't supported Mamdani probably because of his overt criticism of Israel--you know, they need the AIPAC money for elections-- but prominent Democrats like Bernie Sanders and many others are still behind Mamdani. But more important than the leadership: The progressives support Mamdani and by far most progressives vote for the Democratic Party and are by far they are more anti-Netanyahu then any other group in America with the exception of Muslim Americans. An elected representative in America is more likely to listen to their political base then not; that's how politics works and not just in America. So strengthen the hand of the political party and its President who is more likely to listen to your voice then not.
OMG! People like you who live in America have not learned one thing about American politics! Well go on, and keep voting for the Ms. 0.4% Jill Stein to split the progressive votes and keep falling in the AIPAC trap forever!

Since you missed the point... in another world this was a match-up between Sliwa and Cuomo... Republican and Democrat... Cuomo the "Democratic" rep lost the nominee... Did NOT drop out of the race for the mayor and became republican candidate inspite of Sliwa... for once the uniparty exposed its hand to push its candidate through...

So let's flip the switch... had Republicans presented a candidate that reflected the anti zion sentiment the race would have been the two reflecting the true nerve of the masses... however big money, media and establishment stuck with status quo candidates.

The issues however that Mamdani reflected ARE however the most pressing for New Yorkers... the cleaners, chauffeurs, cooks, delivery guys, dry cleaners or simply ones serving the elite cannot afford to the city of uber wealthy... and it resonated. For the right they doubled down on him being Muslim!

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Now that the election is over, the dust is setting, and everyone continues to whine on social media, remember this:

He will have to deliver on all his promises. And already, resignations are being tendered. FDNY Fire Commissioner Robert Tucker has announced he will step down next month.

 

[Starlord]

Congratulations to Zohran, well deserve win. But lets see if he is gonna keep some of the campaign promises, also right wingers are going nuts over his win, they couldn't find anything substantial so they resort to cheap Islamophobic attacks calling him a "Jihadi" or "he would cheer 9/11" etc, and that's half of America who thinks like that unfortunately, the American's can't even chose who they want to hate, all via dictation of from a tiny satellite colony in Middle east.

 

[SaadH]

Well, after 4 years we can have the discussion again

According zionist rags NY Post, NY Times et al, 1 million new yorkers already left the city, freeing up hundreds of thousands of housing units so no need to wait four years.

 

[SaadH]

@SaadH

Saad bhai,

Zohran is a genius, solved the affordable housing crisis first day in office.

Excellent if true. How did he do this?

Regards

Read zionist rags NY Post and NY Times, 1 millions baby killers have already left thousands of apartment building left vacant.