Operation Ghazab Lil Haq (Pakistan - Afghanistan War)

ArmTwister said:
So what’s the end game??
Apart from how many we killed, bunkers destroyed/captured.. What are the objective of our military.. ...
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Topple TTA of course.

If we can help bring them to power, we can also remove them. This is a lesson they will learn insha'Allah.
 
iron shrapnel said:
When will P.A modernize it's towed artillery ? Or will we just replace them with wheeler ones ?

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Why is that guy not in military fatigues? Is he not a soldier? Is this some hobbyist artillery or something? 🤔
 
aurelianpilled said:
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Do the tanks even have any shells to fire or do they just bring them to the border as a show of power?
 
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No army apologist has answered the question!
Which brilliant minds supported TTA from 1994 till 2021? 27 years - 6 legendary generals.
TTA successfully played brilliant minds of Kakul, Staff College, NDU, GHQ.
Cave dwellers played with PA smart soldier
Smart soldiers played with dumb Pakistanis.
Current batch of smart soldiers trying to undo the trash of 32 years.
What the next batch will do?
Clean trash of this batch?
 
imadul said:
No army apologist has answered the question!
Which brilliant minds supported TTA from 1994 till 2021? 27 years - 6 legendary generals.
TTA successfully played brilliant minds of Kakul, Staff College, NDU, GHQ.
Cave dwellers played with PA smart soldier
Smart soldiers played with dumb Pakistanis.
Current batch of smart soldiers trying to undo the trash of 32 years.
What the next batch will do?
Clean trash of this batch?
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Idk seems like they learned their lesson and are trying to clean all the trash. However there's one person who screams from prison 24/7 and his party openly supports the afghan narrative and all the 10-11 YouTubers are trying their best to make sure the afghan campaign fails.

Also tells me one thing that the generals and institutions are adaptable, willing to change, reorganize and do what is required to protect the interest of the state. Where as that one eyed shit in prison is stupid, stubborn and openly harms the interest of the state.

I will always prioritise the state over any stupid political populist rhetoric. Yes there must be accountability for past failures but eventually we'll get there maybe in 30 years.
 
mythbuster said:
Naswar maybe good enough to give you high but it ain't good enough for me...I have been flying on way higher altitude all my life.... every tom , dick and harry is a mucho macho Chengiz khan here.... try to understand what I wrote without getting your undies in a twist .
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Write something worth understanding and we might consider it, for now what you offer is verabl diarrhea
 
imadul said:
No army apologist has answered the question!
Which brilliant minds supported TTA from 1994 till 2021? 27 years - 6 legendary generals.
TTA successfully played brilliant minds of Kakul, Staff College, NDU, GHQ.
Cave dwellers played with PA smart soldier
Smart soldiers played with dumb Pakistanis.
Current batch of smart soldiers trying to undo the trash of 32 years.
What the next batch will do?
Clean trash of this batch?
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I'm no "army apologist" but between 1994-2021, that's a very big time frame and so much has happened during that period.

Pakistan did not create Taliban 1.0 in 1994. But as Taliban 1.0's popularity grew, Pakistan decided to support this group against the brutal warlords to end the Afghan civil war.

Do you think, Pakistan should've sealed the border and let the warlords massacre everyone in Afghanistan? Northern Alliance was locking up Taliban 1.0 fighters in containers and setting the containers ablaze. That's just one example of the brutality that was happening at that time in Afghanistan.

When Taliban 1.0 was toppled in 2001, they went quiet for a number of years. They had repeatedly requested to surrender to the Hamid Karzai Government but those requests were not entertained. That lead to the Taliban 1.0's rebellion against the Afghan Government.

By the time Mullah Omar passed away in a Karachi Hospital in April 2013, a new generation of Taliban had gradually replaced Taliban 1.0.

This new Taliban 2.0 didn't have much affiliation with Pakistan as they mainly operated from Afghanistan, while Pakistan was busy wresting TTP in the tribal areas in Pakistan.

It was only in July 2019, when Pakistani leadership was ordered by President Donald Trump to bring Taliban 2.0 to the negotiating table and help "extricate US forces" from Afghanistan, or he would kill 10 million people in Afghanistan that Pakistan seriously started talking with Taliban 2.0.

When Taliban 2.0 took over Afghanistan in August 2021, Pakistan tried to take all the credit for defeating the US via Taliban, but totally forgetting that the new Taliban was 2.0 and not 1.0. Pakistan had also not confronted NATO in Afghanistan at all.

04/09/2021: 'Don't worry, everything will be okay': ISI chief during Kabul visit: Dawn

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Between 15 August 2021 and 28 February 2026, Pakistan had been trying to develop relationship with Taliban 2.0 like the one it had with Taliban 1.0, but this had not worked, as the Taliban 2.0 were more interested in exporting their ideology to Pakistan instead
 
Mullah Yaqoob says:

1. We do not recognise Pakistan's sovereignity or territorial integrity.

2. We do not recognise the TTP as terrorists, but instead friendly tribal refugees.

This entire Pashtun nationalist shtick in Afghanistan is quite funny when you see their treatment of the heritage and lands of Tajiks, etc.

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imadul said:
No army apologist has answered the question!
Which brilliant minds supported TTA from 1994 till 2021? 27 years - 6 legendary generals.
TTA successfully played brilliant minds of Kakul, Staff College, NDU, GHQ.
Cave dwellers played with PA smart soldier
Smart soldiers played with dumb Pakistanis.
Current batch of smart soldiers trying to undo the trash of 32 years.
What the next batch will do?
Clean trash of this batch?
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If it makes you feel better I thought it was a mistake for DGISPR to politicise this issue. You are still free to point fingers until the cows come home but the bottom line is that Pakistan's approach to handling the Taliban threat is short-sighted. And this has been the case for quite sometime.

Taliban are a liability. They are not rational actors. They are nihilists.

What Pakistanis need to understand is that having Taliban associated with Pakistan in any possible way carries enormous risk. How long before they host the next OBL and the world comes bearing down on Afghanistan again? To think they will reform and change their old ways is a fantasy.

So I'm all for carrying out periodic strikes on TTA targets and TTP hideouts in Afghanistan. It sends a very clear message to the world and one that will be well-recieved in many capitals.
 
Fox said:
What Pakistanis need to understand is that having Taliban associated with Pakistan in any possible way carries enormous risk. How long before they host the next OBL and the world comes bearing down on Afghanistan again? To think they will reform and change their old ways is a fantasy.

So I'm all for carrying out periodic strikes on TTA targets and TTP hideouts in Afghanistan. It sends a very clear message to the world and one that will be well-recieved in many capitals.
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yes very important , i have even seen facbook posts ( yes they still post their activities on fb )by them in other countires Pledging allegince to taliban , if i remember there was one in italy holding tta flag infront of a italian navy dock . we also have to scream and tell everyone about taliban carrying out terrorismagain. so when an attack eventually happens we can just we told you , and yes its only matter if when one if them wants revenge for the war
 
Waterboy said:
Idk seems like they learned their lesson and are trying to clean all the trash. However there's one person who screams from prison 24/7 and his party openly supports the afghan narrative and all the 10-11 YouTubers are trying their best to make sure the afghan campaign fails.

Also tells me one thing that the generals and institutions are adaptable, willing to change, reorganize and do what is required to protect the interest of the state. Where as that one eyed shit in prison is stupid, stubborn and openly harms the interest of the state.

I will always prioritise the state over any stupid political populist rhetoric. Yes there must be accountability for past failures but eventually we'll get there maybe in 30 years.
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One eyed shit is hilarious. But, yes exactly. Ik is towing the wrong line. He's becoming increasingly more unpopular and irrelevant. Fitting end to a clown imo.
 
@Dalit bro

This opportunity won't present itself again. It is now or never.

If history and precedent are anything to go by, it will be never and not now.

Regards
 
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