Operation Ghazab Lil Haq (Pakistan - Afghanistan War)

[hasssanali8998]

The Ittehadul Mujahideen Pakistan-affiliated Ansar al Islam Pakistan claimed the responsibility for the attack on bhakkar post

 

[SteppeWolff]

Anything that borders Afghanistan will get f**ked with. And through their leverage with KP they did just that to Balochistan.

They were and still are trying to carve a route to the sea.

On one side Afghanistan is a bankrupt state with nothing and no means of power according to yall, and itd br crushed and forced to come to the negotiation table.

And one side, they have enough means to "carve a route to sea" and put the entire western flank of Pak on fire.

Interesting.

 

[Watandar]

How do you recognize people who WHILE LIVING IN PAKISTAN well before this latest Afghan war iteration were claiming the land is all theirs and planning genocide even against their Pashtun Pakistani cousins?

Simple. "Durand Line" is a non-issue for Pakistanis in KPK and Baluchistan. They don't care about it or Pashtunistan. Afghans may raise it due to all the friction between the countries in the past 50 years but reality is its one issue for one ethnicity alone among the major ethnicities of Afghanistan. I don't know about this planned genocide and I will chalk it to propaganda. Durand Line and Pashtunistan is what happens when baat ka batangar banana ho.

The border is internationally recognized. Both countries recognize each other and Pakistan recognized the Taliban in the 90s as well. What is the problem now ? Whole world already knows who put the Taliban in power in Kabul. Recognize the Taliban and start building relations with them openly. It will lead to confidence building and eventually they will pull their support for TTP/BLA.

 

[hasssanali8998]

And one side, they have enough means to "carve a route to sea" and put the entire western flank of Pak on fire.

he said trying to
comprehension lil bro

 

[hasssanali8998]

Both countries recognize each other

no the dont reconnise our border ??

Recognize the Taliban and start building relations with them openly

they dont want relationship with us , why cant u understand that

 

[Blain2]

Ok I understand. Yes, wars of attrition take time. Yes, pressure on Afghanistan matters.

But none of that explains why tactical gaps on our side should remain open while waiting for strategic effects to materialize??

COIN succeeds when you deny insurgents mobility, not when you simply punish sponsors. If fighters, weapons, and cash can still cross regularly, then operational pressure resets every night. You cannot bomb faster than infiltration replenishes.

And clearly, none of this is happening. A nuclear armed state is running around like a headless

Tactical gaps exist because we fund our military with a $10B budget when the entire US border fencing spend for Mexico is about $16B/year. This means they get to spend upwards of $6M for each mile in question.

So I am just breaking down the basics for a high level comparison. This does not mean that we don't fence and put posts up and use drones where we can, but our ability is limited and these gaps are exploited.

Imagine the locals in KPK guiding their TTP family members through gaps at the border fencing they have created at a time when the drones are not operating in the air etc.

 

[Watandar]

GOD MAN , u are insuffferble
i will give u an example that u will understand
this is like telling iranians to sign a peace deal with israel, afgandus are our enemies now just as much if not more than india .

why am I "insufferable" ? Because I ask you to change the failed policies and narratives of past 50 years or 70 years ? If you insist on fighting Afghans for another 50 years , I cannot stop you.

 

[muz]

The Ittehadul Mujahideen Pakistan-affiliated Ansar al Islam Pakistan claimed the responsibility for the attack on bhakkar post

IMP is just another alias of TTP

 

[hasssanali8998]

Türkiye is updating contingency plans in case of a US-Iran conflict, preparing for a potential refugee surge from Iran.

Measures reportedly include setting up border camps or, in an extreme scenario, moving into Iranian territory to block crossings if chaos erupts.

Source: Bloomberg

bhai hum to war gaye , now iranian border will also be hot and more refugees ,
and as always our ummah chummah goverment wont do anyhting

 

[Distant_Observer]

On one side Afghanistan is a bankrupt state with nothing and no means of power according to yall, and itd br crushed and forced to come to the negotiation table.

And one side, they have enough means to "carve a route to sea" and put the entire western flank of Pak on fire.

Interesting.

Even Iran got involved along with India. There are routes that extend to the kurds in Iraq and Syria which provided them with training and weapons.

taliban started providing them with weapons from 2005 onwards. Most their gear is American. Their tactics are learned from taliban proxy groups.

KP is full of afghan proxies and sleeper cells. Anyone says a word against them in KP and they will hunt them down with the hour. PTI are cowards which is why they stay quiet.

That's why they are all scared to say anything. Others have a vested interest in smuggling.

 

[Mav3rick]

You do realize more then half of Pakistani population thanks to Imran Khan's influence are against any PAF strikes and believe America is paying Pakistani generals for attacking "peaceful Afghanistan"? That one eyed dajjal in jail needs to start speaking in Pakistan's favor for once.

The more than half population being followers of Imran Khan is a myth. Even with extreme rigging and what not, he could not secure even 30% of the votes casted in the 2018 elections and he was well on his way to lose extraordinarily in the 2023 elections were it not for the fools who believed his carefully crafted story where he spun a simple msg from the US into a conspiracy; that too riding on the ever popular anti-establishment narrative which gave him respite and almost a 2nd chance.

In any case, the state must do what is needed, popular or otherwise. The state of Pakistan is import, even more than the whims and wishes of ignorant Pakistanis.

 

[hasssanali8998]

why am I "insufferable" ? Because I ask you to change the failed policies and narratives of past 50 years or 70 years ? If you insist on fighting Afghans for another 50 years , I cannot stop you.

becasue u keep repeating the same thing as if we didnt try it , u keep saying make peace while the enemy is killing our poeple daily

 

[muz]

To all the pro army bois in this thread once again if the military was even remotely serious they would have hit the TTA where it hurts them (Kabul/Kandahar) not like blowing mud house and taking out cannon fodder fighters with their families

 

[Watandar]

The more than half population being followers of Imran Khan is a myth. Even with extreme rigging and what not, he could not secure even 30% of the votes casted in the 2018 elections and he was well on his way to lose extraordinarily in the 2023 elections were it not for the fools who believed his carefully crafted story where he spun a simple msg from the US into a conspiracy; that too riding on the ever popular anti-establishment narrative which gave him respite and almost a 2nd chance.

In any case, the state must do what is needed, popular or otherwise. The state of Pakistan is import, even more than the whims and wishes of ignorant Pakistanis.

The state exists to serve the people, not the other way around.

 

[Blain2]

Easier to blame than to take any accountability on yourself. Same old boring hogwash.

Even easier to point fingers while sitting on the keyboard. ;-)