Operation Ghazab Lil Haq (Pakistan - Afghanistan War)

[El Sidd]

Brother, two things:

a.) When you raise an entire nation on extremist narratives, confused religious nationalism, and submission to the "ummah", what do you expect will happen when someone who appears as a more extreme form of Islam goes against you? There will be sympathy. While nations built their society's on valuing things like education, technology, history, & culture — Pakistan promoted medeival extremism to its people and created zombies.

This is our politicians, generals, and scholars' mistakes.

b.) When you are not able to do your full job properly by countering the extremist group's propaganda, then their narrative will remain dominant.

Pakistan could use its own scholars and media departments to systematically expose and refute their claims, these people are literally tribal extremists, chronic drug abusers, bacha baaz, extreme dehumanisation of women, and nasal parasts.

What they want is the rule of Jahilya like it was before Islam and where they can manifest their neo-nazi Loy Afghanistan, but shroud it all in Islamic garments, why? Because they know Pakistanis are idiots who will eat it up, partially due to our own indoctrination of ourselves.

do you think objective resolution is the highest form of extremist ideology?

 

[Hopefully Pessimistic]

Today an indian friend confronted me about this strike and i simply showed him the facts.

Visible ammunition cookoff
Supposed drug rehab facilify located right next to a weapons depot on a millitary base
Barely any proof of injuries wether civilian or taliban.
Bbc and al-jewzeera quoting taliban at face value and putting “couldn’t independently verify” to save their asses

Fortunately he was one of the smart ones and was satisfied. Misinfo can be combatted but it requires people to actually think for once

Pakistan is the only thing standing between Hindutva and Afghanistan. And the only entity that could have the means to prevent any expansion.

These Afghans will be "turned into Gaza, conquered, and women r*ped to reclaim Hindu lands" — literally claims Ive seen in Indian political groupchats full of 50+ people all agreeing and laughing. Not fringe beliefs, just as they celebrate dead Palestinians en masse, this is also things they discuss privately.

They think they will hug with Indians and get rid of Pakistan and then Hindus have no plans to after go for them. Very wrong assumption. Pakistan is in a way protecting them.

 

[UndercoverJIX]

And here we go - why have all the border Taliban posts not been destroyed??

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as I keep saying, we are using shurlies on border posts and letting them runaway alive. majority of posts not destroyed, clips show only dust smoke, structure still intact.

I call it rang bazi

They are playing with ordinary soldiers, civis life

 

[kimjongun]

If a hand of the Taliban is proven in this incident via intelligence channels; Pakistan should consider deploying undercover SSG teams to IED their infrastructure also.

Some things don't have to be done overtly.

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Ts aint happeining , the risk would be too high and consider how high the losses ssg faces in its operations...

 

[Hopefully Pessimistic]

Ts aint happeining , the risk would be too high and consider how high the losses ssg faces in its operations...

I mean, I'm no commander or something but it's a suggestion. Afghanistan is a no man's land it might be possible undercover blending in.

 

[Ibbi32]

I mean, I'm no commander or something but it's a suggestion. Afghanistan is a no man's land it might be possible undercover blending in.

Thats job of markhors not storks

 

[Goenitz]

That was a compulsion then to safeguard Pakistan against the Northern Alliance. But nothing except interests are permanent and that compulsion no longer exists (same as India and Taliban were arch enemies and not any longer given the latter's allegiance to Imam Modi). Now these same Taliban are attacking Pakistan so we have to change our tact. It is quite simple and I am glad you agree that these takfiris have to be dealt with.

All ok, but changing a stance to 180 is easy for the government, like Mushi did, but takes narrative, time and consistency to translate into the masses.

Yes, only lethal force can be used against forceful incursion or attack, but proportionally. Aircraft strikes if don't accumulate civilian deaths, then morality, narrative and legitimacy are on our side. Very important in the long run.

India has more flexibility as it doesn't share borders, and at least it was popular in the Afghan public (not by TTA before). Pak is hated through and through in Afghanistan now.

 

[Ibbi32]

yep i reported but then quite thought it was fake


but this is good very good , means we are finally acting like hard state dont care what media and people think we will do what is needed .

Airstrikes are not the viable alternate here. They work for precision strikes but they are too costly and not enough firepower. We need to push in to Afghan territory enough that we can set up an artillery battery that keeps indescrimnately firing on kabul for every hour of the day. Never let them sleep.

 

[iron shrapnel]

The Taliban have shifted the alive patients somewhere else to create this drama... No bodies at hospitals or morgues...

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This is the second strike after which zabiullah said that a rehabilitation center was hit and civilians died... Why did they put a vulnerable people next to ammunition depots and military camps ...that can be manipulated through drugs ?

 

[Hopefully Pessimistic]

Airstrikes are not the viable alternate here. They work for precision strikes but they are too costly and not enough firepower. We need to push in to Afghan territory enough that we can set up an artillery battery that keeps indescrimnately firing on kabul for every hour of the day. Never let them sleep.

Shelling Kabul is a bad idea because I hear most of that city are anti-Taliban so there is something salvagable there, you want to use precision to remove Taliban security posts via drones there.

Shell the surrounding southern regions of Taliban hotspots in like Kandahar or Khost etc

 

[T80UD]

Peak of yookayistani intelligence.

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[iron shrapnel]

aik chand ya do popalzai sab???

Bro this guy is a more staunch Pakistani than most people here lmao...

 

[UndercoverJIX]

Bro this guy is a more staunch Pakistani than most people here lmao...

that is good.

Eid aa rahi hai, lets see


just joking

 

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Peak of yookayistani intelligence.

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The younger they get the more idiotic their takes are and the more loud they get, you can't even have a decent conversation with them because they loose they're shit if you talk to them with facts... A UK uncle one said to me about the younglings " na inna nu angrezi andee ae tei na urdu, sirf yabbrian marnaen "...