Operation Ghazab Lil Haq (Pakistan - Afghanistan War)

I put at 50 50 either our leadership this time grows a spine and dont bow down to Al jazeera qataris or whatever country who will help to get a ceasefire deal or they will fall into their hold habits again

I can assure you. They will cry in sync. All of them. They will make accusations. BBC, CNN, European mainstream media, Indians and the entire bandwagon. All the Western sponsored human rights organisations will point fingers. The UN will demand an inquiry.

We should show them a middle finger and pounce the Afghans. There should be severe punishment and retribution. The entire world on one side and Pakistan on the other. Pakistan's security is of utmost important. The entire world comes after that.

We know who is really the mastermind of these attacks. They don't have the balls to face us.
 
People went haywire last time I said the ISI is highly overrated intelligence organization which has failed to keep the Pakistani state insulated from the mess in Afghanistan. People claimed that the failure was a state wide rather than being attributable to one organization. But the ISI is part of the Pakistani military which is the de facto ruler of Pakistan. Pakistan’s political dysfunction is a function of the military’s gross political and governance interventions.

The fact that the ISI and the Pakistani military have persistently failed to hit senior TTP, ISIS & BLA targets in Afghanistan shows high organizational incompetence and dysfunction. Heck, the ISI and the Pakistani military even watched as one of the most vile TTP commanders Ehsanullah Ehsan escaped from their facilities.

This ongoing ‘operations’ is more of a political and PR stunt than any real military attempt to solve the TTP and BLA question. It has achieved exactly zero net impact. No senior TTP or BLA leaders killed or apprehended. No discernible drop in terror tempo. No nothing. It’s a total farce. For context, compare and contrast Israel’s operation in Iran and India’s operation in khashmir. India especially not only eliminated militant activities but is actively exporting militancy to Pakistan through BLA, TTP and Afghan Taliban.

But yes: the ISI is lumber one intelligence agency in the world
 
I can assure you. They will cry in sync. All of them. They will make accusations. BBC, CNN, European mainstream media, Indians and the entire bandwagon. All the Western sponsored human rights organisations will point fingers. The UN will demand an inquiry.

We should show them a middle finger and pounce the Afghans. There should be severe punishment and retribution. The entire world on one side and Pakistan on the other. Pakistan's security is of utmost important. The entire world comes after that.

We know who is really the mastermind of these attacks. They don't have the balls to face us.
Afghanistan should be Paks Lebanon.
State should do what is necessary not what looks good. FFS
 
People went haywire last time I said the ISI is highly overrated intelligence organization which has failed to keep the Pakistani state insulated from the mess in Afghanistan. People claimed that the failure was a state wide rather than being attributable to one organization. But the ISI is part of the Pakistani military which is the de facto ruler of Pakistan. Pakistan’s political dysfunction is a function of the military’s gross political and governance interventions.

The fact that the ISI and the Pakistani military have persistently failed to hit senior TTP, ISIS & BLA targets in Afghanistan shows high organizational incompetence and dysfunction. Heck, the ISI and the Pakistani military even watched as one of the most vile TTP commanders Ehsanullah Ehsan escaped from their facilities.

This ongoing ‘operations’ is more of a political and PR stunt than any real military attempt to solve the TTP and BLA question. It has achieved exactly zero net impact. No senior TTP or BLA leaders killed or apprehended. No discernible drop in terror tempo. No nothing. It’s a total farce. For context, compare and contrast Israel’s operation in Iran and India’s operation in khashmir. India especially not only eliminated militant activities but is actively exporting militancy to Pakistan through BLA, TTP and Afghan Taliban.

But yes: the ISI is lumber one intelligence agency in the world
Who made that claim and why?

The ISI has mostly built up notoriety for being "involved" in a lot of things and overreach - overreach does not translate to competence and more importantly does not mean it always has the BEST resources available to it.
At the same time, you are using your tainted ideas of failure to disregard success the agency has had which may or may not be available to public due to the nature of operations.

The ISI is highly capable in covert action, proxy warfare, and internal security operations, able to manage complex networks of clients and militants over decades. EVERY agency in the world along with intelligence experts recognize it.

However, what you are terming under pointless demeaning terms is a case of enduring issues that hamper Pakistanis in working environments in general:
Competing priorities that cannibalize resources and operational effectiveness
Competing bosses/chains of command
Politicization, dual agendas, and lack of civilian oversight

The result is where you have success that would blow your mind in ways - and then broader failures because many of these successes cannot be made cohesive due to the overall structure of Pakistani establishment leadership.
 
The biggest problem in Pakistan right now isn't military capacity but rather mentality/ideology. Then economy after that.

Look at Pakistani politicians, they are all haram khor parasites that see Pakistan not as their country to nurture and develop along with their citizens, but to extract and abuse for personal benefit. FEUDALISM.

And the military itself is dealing with its own mental complexes and is filled with boomers of an old-mentality. It possesses no assertive form of nationalism, that can discard international rules and constraints being imposed to shrewdly pursue Pakistan's national interests at all costs. They are too submissive and anxious to conform to rules set by others.

Why? Because they lack a proper nationalist ideology to motivate and bring out that shrewd aggressive mentality. Carry old colonial complexes.

Afghanistan, India, Iran, China, all have it. Pakistan is a club of confused parasitic boomers instead of nationalists that want to build & develop a nation that sees their citizens as equals.

That's the root cause of its failure down to everything, including not being able to decisively confront TTP, BLA, Afghanistan.
 
Perhaps action across the border should be taken, immediately when hostilities in the middle east rise / bombardment ensues.

So that the world media is more focused elsewhere, and that gives us a little advantage, for a small amount of time.

So it needs to be swift, accurate, lethal, targeted and on time, not waiting for approvals from above ranks.

It must be kept in mind that the middle east conflict might will continue into the next year and ground invasion might happen.

So, Pakistan must finish the job as soon as possible.
 
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Everyone in KPK which i met is tired of this TTP terroism no one in their right mind there supports it still army fanbois will tell you the problem is the people of KPK and not the incompetence and lack of seriousness of Pak Army with tackling this problem only in Balochistan the local baloch give cover to the BLA


It helps them get their mental orgasm. Nobody will ask for regime change in GHQ as it failed to properly manage border and its policies of good taliban bad taliban failed.

The reason some people may feel sympathetic about some factions of talibans in KP was because YOU TOLD THEM THEY ARE GOOD TALIBAN.

@Distant_Observer
 
So, the locals are at times right when they are tired of seeing TTP but then they ask the state to respond - and it takes 2 months(during which they eventually have to compromise with TTP elements or face death) for the state to respond and when it does respond it finds nothing because its already too late or it goes into smash mode on whatever is left INCLUDING the locals which in turn creates more anger for the state.

I have highlighted this to them multiple times. 50 armed men come to your village and ask for things and place to spend the night. You know if you refuse, they will just kill you and your family and your relatives and your neighbours. And it will take state (QRF, Army, FC) 576 weeks to arrive even if you called.

Majority of times they have no options but to oblige because they want to live. I had a friend from swat, I asked him about swat situation (when operation ended) he told me if you stood with army to talk, in night taliban will come and bomb your house. But if you stood even for a while with taliban to talk, army will come and take you to namaloom place.
 

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