Operation True Promise II - dozens of Iranian ballistic missiles hit Israel

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missile production sites ultimately need to be moved underground

 

[vmro]

The sad thing is many goyims are perfectly happy to be enslaved by the zionists.

Really interesting state of affairs. Voluntary subjugation. Many of them frequent this forum too...

American says we are bribed with our own money...That is mechanism who takes billions from usa budget and many are rich from those special relations us-israel, on both sides, and payed by amerian citizens that have zero benefits of it...
But msm empire is under total control, and everyone with common sense to comment about it is labeled as extremist, antisemitic and probably latent lover of Hitler... that is their treatment from the very beginning...

but remember that actual American elites and their children successors are two different worlds... when American universities are organizing protests with mutual message, that always means coming of big reformat in politics...in 60' was national shame any criticism of war with Vietnam, but students had their own views...they made fundamental changes of perception and execution in politics than... same patterns are here again, it's not primary about love for Iran, but they cant understand wasting their money on Israel anymore... and can't figure out anymore why on the earth usa should have war Iran, what threat to them is Iran, among so many more important issues...

 

[Flotilla]

They are not going to directly strike Iranian nuclear strikes with planes.

I suspect some kind of terrorist attack inside Iran and also cyber attack on nuclear program.

Iran must not show any restrain next round. It should obliterate that bastard entity. World is tired of that scum nation and humanity will be grateful to Iran till eternity.

I like to think normal folks in west wish the same thing.

Yeah. People in the West are really tired about this Rogue state.

 

[UKBengali]

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missile production sites ultimately need to be moved underground

Are not some facilities to produce missiles already underground anyway?

Also some of the missile production sites would be hundreds of kms deep into Iran and are likely to be very well guarded with dense air defences, that it is unlikely to do much more than light damage anyway as there is only so many ALBMs they have to launch at this one time and range will be a factor. ALBMs will need to be saved for future planned attacks.

I cannot see any fighters flying over Iran to drop bombs or even launch missiles from just outside its territory.

Iran retaliation will also be another factor to consider.

 

[Liquidator]

Are not some facilities to produce missiles already underground anyway?

Also some of the missile production sites would be hundreds of kms deep into Iran and are likely to be very well guarded with dense air defences, that it is unlikely to do much more than light damage anyway as there is only so many ALBMs they have to launch at this one time and range will be a factor. ALBMs will need to be saved for future planned attacks.

I cannot see any fighters flying over Iran to drop bombs or even launch missiles from just outside its territory.

Iran retaliation will also be another factor to consider.

Well

Here's the thing

Iran targeted military installations, so Israel will take out their military installations...this makes it difficult for iran to retaliate in a way that will truly hurt the terrorist zionist entity which is to take out its power stations. This invites a brutal response from the west on Iran. All of its civilian infrastructure will be fair game. USA can easily cripple iran over a few days.

This leaves iran with a predicament. How should iran retaliate? Israel is basically a military base for the European elites with a large civilian population.

It's difficult therefore to take it out by targeting their military installations alone which are all multi domain (land, air, sea, cyber, space, media).

I'm sure the Iranians will be meticulous in their planning and will come up with a good solution. One thing we are all agreed on is the response must be instantaneous. The attackers must return, if still alive, to a different Israel.

 

[UKBengali]

Well

Here's the thing

Iran targeted military installations, so Israel will take out their military installations...this makes it difficult for iran to retaliate in a way that will truly hurt the terrorist zionist entity which is to take out its power stations. This invites a brutal response from the west on Iran. All of its civilian infrastructure eill he fair game.

This leaves iran with a predicament. How should iran retaliate? Israel is basically a military base for the European elites with a large civilian population.

It's difficult therefore to take it out by targeting their military installations alone which are all multi domain (land, air, sea, cyber, space, media).

I think what iran needs to do is make it abundantly clear that before Israel response is even complete it will launch thousands of missiles. It must be BRUTAL. It's the only language a rabid dog understands.

But Iran did not seek to destroy Zionist military facilities on October 1st. It was again a "message" as they did not use heavy warheads packed with 1-1.5 tonne warheads.

Iran has more offensive potential for two reasons:

1. Far greater amount of ballistic missiles and with much heavier warheads - 2-3x as more and higher speed on landing.

2. 10x larger in population and 100x larger in area - half of Iran would more than likely be totally unreachable for the entity.


USA needs to understand that Iran has enough offensive power to destroy or at the least severely damage its military assets in the Gulf region and to state it can "cripple" Iran within days is unrealistic.

I am sticking to my premise that this will again be a token strike as the entity is incapable of anything more and would be scared to try to target Iranian energy infrastructure as Iranian retaliation would be devastating to it.

 

[PakFactor]

Well

Here's the thing

Iran targeted military installations, so Israel will take out their military installations...this makes it difficult for iran to retaliate in a way that will truly hurt the terrorist zionist entity which is to take out its power stations. This invites a brutal response from the west on Iran. All of its civilian infrastructure will be fair game. USA can easily cripple iran over a few days.

This leaves iran with a predicament. How should iran retaliate? Israel is basically a military base for the European elites with a large civilian population.

It's difficult therefore to take it out by targeting their military installations alone which are all multi domain (land, air, sea, cyber, space, media).

I'm sure the Iranians will be meticulous in their planning and will come up with a good solution.

If the Israelis do strike, the best and only option to inflict damage would be on IDF along the Lebanon-Israeli border, targeting their positions and forward bases. Many ADs are located next to civilian population centers and IDF bases.

You would do a fake; have them head to Israel and then, mid-course, change positions to the north. It would be more effective if the Iranians could get drones into Syria and Lebanon quietly. This could be done by breaking down the Iranian forces into smaller units and dispersing them, with one not knowing the other's location in case the network is compromised; they'll only wait for an order to launch and coordinates.

 

[UKBengali]

If the Israelis do strike, the best and only option to inflict damage would be on IDF along the Lebanon-Israeli border, targeting their positions and forward bases. Many ADs are located next to civilian population centers and IDF bases.

You would do a fake; have them head to Israel and then, mid-course, change positions to the north. It would be more effective if the Iranians could get drones into Syria and Lebanon quietly. This could be done by breaking down the Iranian forces into smaller units and dispersing them, with one not knowing the other's location in case the network is compromised; they'll only wait for an order to launch and coordinates.

There are literally 40-50,000 Zionist terrorists massed along the border of Lebanon and they are simply sitting ducks.

Iran also has the option of targeting and destroying a good portion of them and the armoured vehicles.

 

[PakFactor]

But Iran did not seek to destroy Zionist military facilities on October 1st. It was again a "message" as they did not use heavy warheads packed with 1-1.5 tonne warheads.

Iran has more offensive potential for two reasons:

1. Far greater amount of ballistic missiles and with much heavier warheads - 2-3x as more and higher speed on landing.

2. 10x larger in population and 100x larger in area - half of Iran would more than likely be totally unreachable for the entity.


USA needs to understand that Iran has enough offensive power to destroy or at the least severely damage its military assets in the Gulf region and to state it can "cripple" Iran within days is unrealistic.

I am sticking to my premise that this will again be a token strike as the entity is incapable of anything more and would be scared to try to target Iranian energy infrastructure as Iranian retaliation would be devastating to it.

That's the issue with Iran: they are just doing token strikes and not extracting any cost, while the IDF eliminates top-level commanders with little to no consequences. This encouraged the Israelis to engage in more strikes, which could further lead to the erosion of the Axis of Resistance as they would sense weakness.

 

[UKBengali]

That's the issue with Iran: are they just doing token strikes and not extracting cost while IDF eliminates top-level commanders with little to no protection. They just embolden the Israelis.

I believe the Iranian strike on October 1st was exactly the right thing to do at the time.

It achieved two things:

1. Give Hezbollah and the resistance some well needed relief and moral boost.

2. Demonstrated to Zio-US for sure on the accuracy and penetration capability of Iranian missiles. Those 35 hits on the Zionist airbase where 80% found a suitable target will have been noted.

 

[PakFactor]

There are literally 40-50,000 Zionist terrorists massed along the border of Lebanon and they are simply sitting ducks.

Iran also has the option of targeting and destroying a good portion of them and the armoured vehicles.

Exactly. Had I been in command, I would have hit them when the nine brigades got into positions in the north. We never learn; twice, Saddam sat and didn't strike when the allied coalition was building up, knowing he would lose but at least take thousands with you.

 

[UKBengali]

Exactly. Had I been in command, I would have hit them when the nine brigades got into positions in the north. We never learn; twice, Saddam sat and didn't strike when the allied coalition was building up, knowing he would lose but at least take thousands with you.

Those armed terrorists are all massed in a small area and are literally "sitting ducks".

Terrorist entity would be well aware of what a few hundred ballistic missiles armed with heavy warheads/cluster munitions would do to them within a matter of hours.

 

[vmro]

Are not some facilities to produce missiles already underground anyway?

Also some of the missile production sites would be hundreds of kms deep into Iran and are likely to be very well guarded with dense air defences, that it is unlikely to do much more than light damage anyway as there is only so many ALBMs they have to launch at this one time and range will be a factor. ALBMs will need to be saved for future planned attacks.

I cannot see any fighters flying over Iran to drop bombs or even launch missiles from just outside its territory.

Iran retaliation will also be another factor to consider.

They will probably attack some military target in Iran, and probably with us deal with Iran that results in such case will be overrated on the west media as historical attack on Iranin soil, without substantial gains... escalating de-escalation... just my views based on patterns of previous experience...

 

[BHAN85]

He also end descalation procedure in middle east like jcpoa

Yeah, and he killed Soleimani and bombed Syria.

But at least he said clearly, unlike democrats hypocrites.

 

[BHAN85]

Yes, democrats are biggest hypocrites possible, and even USSR preferred republican administrations... In reality, majority of us politicians are in Jewish-owned pockets, but with somewhat different approach...And Iran itself benefited more in Bush and Trump's mandates than in "benevolent" Obama era...

In the end USA deep state and Jewish American bankers take big decisions.

But they act differently if they use a democrat or a republican puppet.