Opinion: India Pakistan near conflict - Escalation management non-existent

[Raj-Hindustani]

Are you out of your mind, 1% of GDP growth is freaking huge.

I am very much aware it... But we can't do anything!

And it's maximum - and it's also, not going to make our economy bad... Impacts are there but sustainable

 

[Ali_Baba]

The Indians are huffing, and puffing right now for sure, partly because of Sindoor and partly because of the failure of the strategic goals of Israel/India that have failed to materialise because of the failure against Pakistan. These exercises are part of the huffing and puffing, maybe India is serious about attack Pakistan again, but can they do it now ?

Can India really risk their relations with Saudi Arabia? India is dependent on Saudi for both economic reasons(workers) and oil.

India / Israel had hoped to encase the middles east and Pakistan in an anti-muslim alliance that would degrade the military capabilities of all the countries of the middle east in that sandwich. Pakistan is the eastward defence of the region and Türkiye is the most western point and now the middle east can now see the direction of travel of what is being planned for them. Turkiye is being threatened by Israel, Pakistan was attacked, as was Iran. Syria is now gone. The middle east is slow to process these changes, but they are slowly getting there.

The time window for India is decreasing as the alliance gets off the ground and joins together in a collective defence pact.

India maybe tempted for one last throw of the dice against Pakistan, but it really wants to know where Saudi stands right now. Indians tried to speak to Saudi at the UN assembly, and by all accounts, those attempts were rebuffed. India's have a big decision to make right now...

 

[r3alist]

India / Israel had hoped to encase the middles east and Pakistan in an anti-muslim alliance

The middle east is slow to process that, but they slowly getting there.

India believed that muslim nations themselves would be part of this alliance..... Because of trade

Israel has gone mad dog, and that's their way. India will not adopt this, it never factored in such rogue behavior where equities in the middle East would be compromised by the partnership with Israel.


Latest Qatar attack condemnation from India, I don't believe they mentioned Israel by name.

 

[RescueRanger]

Indian political establishment asked Indian military leadership to start "Cold Start" military attack preparations immediately and the Indian military, all three branches, the Army, Navy and Airforce are starting large scale "Cold Start" exercises tomorrow.

What are the needs for this? Why are these exercises starting at this time when India has a lot of economy related issues going on, with the US, concerns about losing mass labor in the Middle East, etc?

@Hakikat ve Hikmet @PAKISTANFOREVER @Hakwa Nadro @NA71 @pwfi

Bro,

Some members are complaining that you are tagging them in your posts without permission.

Please can you stop mass tagging people unless they wish to engage with you in the first place.

 

[RajaBaja]

Bro,

Some members are complaining that you are tagging them in your posts without permission.

Please can you stop mass tagging people unless they wish to engage with you in the first place.

I'll avoid all of them then because I don't know who not to include. I only add people who usually participate in the discussion or can provide input on the topic.

Someone doesn't want to participate can just write a one line message too......

 

[RajaBaja]

A beautiful Indian song shared on youtube from Kerala on Pak-Saudi defense pact. Is this Telegu?

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[RescueRanger]

I'll avoid all of them then because I don't know who not to include. I only add people who usually participate in the discussion or can provide input on the topic.

Someone doesn't want to participate can just write a one line message too......

Ideally you shouldn't tag anyone unless they want tk be tagged. As some people complain about it and then it just created unnecessary reports.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Indian political establishment asked Indian military leadership to start "Cold Start" military attack preparations immediately and the Indian military, all three branches, the Army, Navy and Airforce are starting large scale "Cold Start" exercises tomorrow.

What are the needs for this? Why are these exercises starting at this time when India has a lot of economy related issues going on, with the US, concerns about losing mass labor in the Middle East, etc?

@Hakikat ve Hikmet @PAKISTANFOREVER @Hakwa Nadro @NA71 @pwfi

Saber rattling. Keeping up the appearance....

Anyway, both the Pak and KSA authorities need to take it seriously. The Hindutva Mushrikin are no friends....

 

[Vikramaditya1]

Remember a video, not that I believe it, it was Pakistan is an over match for India. Certainly in air warfare

It still is. You're still no match. I could go on and on but something tells me you already know.

Has the location of India moved to another place?


I suppose you do care about exporting your labor, what's the strategy for getting those Chinese visas huh?

Who's going to invade anyway.

As for Chinese visas, I don't know if Indians are mass migrating to China to fill labour gaps. What happened to the Chinese now did they all just quit jobs.

Here is the Chinese take; Indians are spineless, can neither decide to be friend or to be foe


Here is the Pakistani team; FFS .... Just look of how many of them there are.

Those Chinese soldiers must be rolling in their graves. Like who would've imagined a nuclear armed state losing soldiers to another one at its borders.

As for Pakistan, oh well I guess the same. Apathy

 

[r3alist]

It still is. You're still no match. I could go on and on but something tells me you already know.

Know about the downed Rafales.

As for Chinese visas, I don't know if Indians are mass migrating to China to fill labour gaps.

Or Japan even.

Korea potentially too

 

[Vikramaditya1]

Know about the downed Rafales.

Sure go ahead. So many fighter jets downed but the sources are all over the internet for that info. I guess we scrubbed all the evidence of you bombing us but you couldn't scrub yours.

Or Japan even.

Korea potentially too

Safe indeed. But nothing pains more to see them in the Middle East ain't it? The Arabs are not buying the "Mu religion same to same saar eh?"

 

[r3alist]

Sure go ahead. So many fighter jets downed but the sources are all over the internet for that info.

Your CDS and video footage.

You should tell me all those facts about how much bigger and richer India is, all those brains...... Is anyone intimidated

Safe indeed. But nothing pains more to see them in the Middle East ain't it?

The pain surely is all of your Indian labour relying on the Goodwill of arab Muslims, that must dent your civilizational pride. Assuming you truly believe you have one.

Time for Hindi chini bhai Bhai

East Asia, here we come..... Sushi goes great with curry you know

 

[Vikramaditya1]

Your CDS and video footage.

You should tell me all those facts about how much bigger and richer India is, all those brains...... Is anyone intimidated

No, you provided enough footages. Lol!

Isn't that kinda obvious. Why do I need to repeat it. Like how many decades you're behind and all that. Meh! Pass.

The pain surely is all of your Indian labour relying on the Goodwill of arab Muslims, that must dent your civilizational pride. Assuming you truly believe you have one.

Time for Hindi chini bhai Bhai

East Asia, here we come..... Sushi goes great with curry you know

Good will of Arabs.. Nice copium along with the rest of your copiums.

 

[r3alist]

Good will of Arabs.. Nice copium along with the rest of your copiums.

It's pretty clear the h1b gravy train was at the Goodwill of The Americans.

You bringing super skills to the gulf as well..... Of course you are, who would doubt.

 

[RajaBaja]

It still is. You're still no match. I could go on and on but something tells me you already know.

First fact: Check Mate India! Pakistan has played it's "master stroke". Now if you ink a similar contract with Israel, it will be GREAT because it will tell the Arabs to officially send off masses back to India.

Now on the above, I am amazed by Indians! Funded by Muslims and Americans and trying to be the false "big guy" of the region? Sad truth is, you are ONLY a match for us. Bad luck to us or good luck to you, because if you ever try to be match for the Chinese, like many of your defense analysts say, the Chinese border will be a 15 minute drive from New Delhi. India will break. And the most interesting thing is, you ALL know this also. Which is why, even after robbing Muslim nations and Americans out of their money, you are still obsessed with Pakistan.

I wonder if Pakistan changed names or got fedup with this b.s. and decided to move next to say UK or America, how would your media and your nation survive without Pakistan? We are your eny, your soap opera, your ratings and your obsession as obvious, anyone can see your obsession with us on youtube.

I think the funny thing is, Pakistan has moved on from you with this defense pact. We are going global, much away from India. India on the other hand, is stuck on Pakistan and it always will.

Who's going to invade anyway.

As for Chinese visas, I don't know if Indians are mass migrating to China to fill labour gaps. What happened to the Chinese now did they all just quit jobs.


As for Pakistan, oh well I guess the same. Apathy

Indians will not mass migrate to the gravy train nations its used to like the US and the Middle East. Let alone China. The Chinese are much smarter, they know the Indian invasion's mechanism. You'll never be invited there in quantity.

And the empathy is only for India. With Jay Shankar saying to daddy Trump "daddy, your H1B orders will have "HUMANITARIAN" issues in India". Clearly begging for "sympathy" also. So both apathy and sympathy are needed by India right now. Pakistan like I said, has moved on from you.

I've said before and some members here remembered and liked that analysis "Check Mate India" has already taken place. You want to further your problems, you are welcome to start impacting your 18 million population between America, Saudi Arabia and Qatar. Just 3 nations ALL on excellent conditions with Pakistan and currently anti-India. Like I said, we've moved on from India. "Check Mate"!

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