Opinion piece: Basis of Indian claim to Indus Valley Civlisation?

[Lulldapull]

This obsession is related to the Hindutva religious struggle that threatens to define and possibly consume India. The definition of 'Indian identity' is used to exclude Muslims and other religious groups.

Will South Indians be included as 'true Indians' or savages who got conquered and civilized by the Vedic North Indians? That question is coming sooner or later.

@Joe Shearer is very knowledgeable and has written extensively on this subject in the old forum. I am surprised he hasn't joined in here.

I told Joe Shearer bhai k twaada naam 'hindu' vi Darius the second de cartographer nay rakha thaa 2500 saal pehlay........moenjodarro main ye bicharay nungay ghoom re thay cheemttay bartain liye.......ina nu pooochha k tussi kon ho?......tay bolay sindhu sindhu sindhu ahaan asaan si.......Cartographer sahb nu lhunn samajh aaee he fukkin named em hindu hindu hindu..........

Aaaj say taadi saari awaam hindu declare ho gaey ho!..............as per da Kings decree!
aaaaaahahahahahaaaaaaa.......

Dis recorded history bro........aur Joe Shearer sahb naraaz ho gya when I laid out dis tid bit aur ab tay meray naal gal vi ne karda.....inna narraz hae.......

@vsdoc @Sharma Ji

 

[Developereo]

I told Joe Shearer bhai k twaada naam 'hindu' vi Darius the second de cartographer nay rakha thaa 2500 saal pehlay........moenjodarro main ye bicharay nungay ghoom re thay cheemttay bartain liye.......ina nu pooochha k tussi kon ho?......tay bolay sindhu sindhu sindhu ahaan asaan si.......Cartographer sahb nu lhunn samajh aaee he fukkin named em hindu hindu hindu..........

Aaaj say taadi saari awaam hindu declare ho gaey ho!..............as per da Kings decree!
aaaaaahahahahahaaaaaaa.......

Dis recorded history bro........aur Joe Shearer sahb naraaz ho gya when I laid out dis tid bit aur ab tay meray naal gal vi ne karda.....inna narraz hae.......

@vsdoc @Sharma Ji

There is an etymology to the words 'hind', 'sindhu' etc. which has been extensively studied. I remember there were detailed discussions in the old forum but I have forgotten most of it

 

[vasanthm]

Will South Indians be included as 'true Indians' or savages who got conquered and civilized by the Vedic North Indians? That question is coming sooner or later.

Does it really matter, as long as the rest of India keeps flocking to our cities for work? We've been the economic engine of this country for a while now, and that’s not changing anytime soon. That kind of question is best left for chai time debates on PDF.

 

[nahtanbob]

In the coming period, I plan to write an article on the topic in the heading.
Could you guys please provide the basis for which such claims are made.

It is a historical fact that the Indus Valley Civilisation is a Pakistan Centric Civilisation, rooted in the lands of the Indus Region and the blood of Pakistani nation and it's people.
The only links to India are in East Punjab, which is part of the Indus Region. And, Gujarat, which was traditionally part of the Indus Delta. Any Indian claim is based on the periphery of the Indus Region.


I am aware of the following points, please add as you wish.

1. Second urbanisation period.
2. DNA link.
3. Linguistic (it makes no sense since the Indus script has not been deciphered as yet, please elaborate if you can).
4. Dravidian (I really find this weird, I assume it is linked to the linguistic and DNA claim. if it has another basis, please elaborate).
5. Since East Punjab and Gujarat are in India, everyone else gets to jump on the band wagon(from Assam to Kanyakumari, Is Sri Lanka also Included).


Thank you in advance.
I am unlikely to reply, but looking forward to learning.

What is this obsession with Indus Valley civilization ? It went extinct. No one knows anything substantial about it. The script cannot be deciphered. It is primitive compared to its counterparts in Middle East.

Given the scale of movement and invasions through modern day Pakistan it is unlikely even the genetic stock of the people living there matches modern day Pakistan

 

[nahtanbob]

In terms of the genetics, the religion, the language, the culture, there is nothing substantive for modern Indians to "claim" over the IVC.

Other than geography what claim does Pakistan have ?

 

[mythbuster]

What is this obsession with Indus Valley civilization ? It went extinct. No one knows anything substantial about it. The script cannot be deciphered. It is primitive compared to its counterparts in Middle East.

Given the scale of movement and invasions through modern day Pakistan it is unlikely even the genetic stock of the people living there matches modern day Pakistan

Well , some posters have fascination with Indus valley as if she was Bo Derek of yesteryears.... hot enough to make a circle jerk around