Our Best Look Yet At China’s J-20A Fighter With WS-15 Engines, the performance boost could mean the J-20A produces more thrust than the F-22 Raptor

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Our Best Look Yet At China’s J-20A Fighter With WS-15 Engines , the performance boost could mean the J-20A produces more thrust than the F-22 Raptor

The domestically developed turbofans are expected to confer ‘supercruise’ performance on the stealthy Chinese fighter.
THOMAS NEWDICK
POSTED ON SEP 9, 2024 6:52 PM EDT

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We have just gotten our clearest view so far of a Chinese J-20A stealth fighter powered by the definitive WS-15 domestically produced engines. While the appearance of the photo at this point raises a number of questions, it’s meanwhile clear that the significant shortcoming of the J-20 — its powerplant — is well along its path to being addressed.

The photo in question began to circulate widely on social media over the weekend. It shows a J-20A prototype, serial number 2052, on the runway at an undisclosed location. It may well be the manufacturer Chengdu’s main test airfield, which is co-located with its production plant in its namesake city. The fighter is seen from the rear aspect, providing a detailed look at the nozzles for the twin WS-15 turbofans. The aircraft is wearing the characteristic yellow primer that is applied prior to the final paintwork being added.

The J-20A version is a refined single-seat version of the basic J-20, with changes that include a revised fuselage mold line, including a reprofiled nosecone, a deeper spine, and a slightly raised cockpit, as well as provision for WS-15 engines. The additional space in the spine is likely to accommodate additional avionics and/or fuel. The new engines meanwhile require modified engine intakes with a slightly smaller bump (DSI inlet design) at the leading edge, to optimize airflow.

Somewhat surprisingly, the photo actually appeared as early as mid-July, when it was posted to social media by an account with the handle @ItsumiErika1500. Considering the speed with which new developments in Chinese military aviation are picked up, it’s puzzling that this took so long to become more widely distributed.

TWZ also spoke to Andreas Rupprecht, a longtime Chinese military observer and contributor to this website, who noted that the photo may well date from well before mid-July.

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An earlier and lower-quality photo of J-20A serial number 2052. Chinese internet via X

According to Rupprecht, it’s now generally assumed that at least some J-20A prototypes have been transferred to the China Flight Test Establishment at Xi’an-Yanliang and others potentially to the Flight Test and Training Base at Cangzhou. Although not yet seen in imagery, it’s highly likely that these aircraft are already painted gray.

Bearing in mind that serial number 2052 was seen as long ago as December 2022 in the primer yellow colors, it seems unlikely that it would still not have received its definitive paint scheme by the summer of 2024.

Often it’s the case that higher-quality Chinese aviation photos are released several months or as long as a year after they were taken.

Regardless of when the photo was taken, it certainly provides the best — albeit not the first — look at the J-20A’s WS-15 turbofans, an engine that is expected to significantly reduce the gap between Chinese fighters and their latest Western equivalents.

As long ago as March 2022, reports said that a WS-15-powered J-20 had flown, although only one of these engines was understood to have been fitted, which is common for early testing.

In December 2022, images appeared online showing serial number 2051 — an example of the J-20A variant that was expected to get WS-15s if it hadn’t already.

As we reported at the time, a J-20A — serial number 2052 — was reportedly flying with WS-15 engines installed as of June 2023, when photos and videos reportedly from the test flight increasingly began to circulate on social media.

The first imagery of the J-20A under WS-15 power was of poor quality, with the exhaust nozzles obscured, making it hard to determine conclusively if the aircraft actually had the new engines, or if it retained the WS-10-series turbofans previously fitted.

Meanwhile, the original J-20 prototypes and initial production examples were powered by Russian-made AL-31 turbofans.

As for the WS-15, this is understood to stem from development begun in the 1990s, but few hard facts are known about it. So far, no photos or videos showing the engine, or even a full-scale mockup have appeared in public. However, it has been reported in the past that prototypes of the engine were capable of producing at least 36,000 pounds of thrust with afterburner, with the ultimate aim of achieving a thrust rating of 40,000 pounds.

This compares favorably with the most powerful versions of the WS-10, which are reportedly in the 32,000 to 35,000-pound maximum thrust class, with afterburning.

Interestingly, while variants of the WS-10 with thrust-vectoring nozzles have been developed, the WS-15, at least in its current form, features a standard nozzle.

Overall, it appears that the primary advantage the WS-15 is bringing to the J-20A is more power — at least 4,000 pounds more thrust than each of the WS-10s used in earlier examples of the fighter.

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A WS-10-powered J-20 seen from the rear. YouTube screen capture

Potentially, this performance boost could mean the J-20A produces more thrust than the F-22 Raptor, the only comparable fifth-generation fighter currently in widespread frontline service today.

The F-22 is powered by two Pratt & Whitney F119s that each produce around 35,000 pounds at full afterburner.

The F-22 is renowned for its speed, including its ability to ‘supercruise’ — meaning it can fly at supersonic speeds for sustained periods without the use of afterburners, and with a full load of internal weapons, as you can read more about here.

While questions may remain about the fuel efficiency and maintenance requirements of the WS-15, especially its time between overhauls, the key advantage it brings seems to be one of thrust, which may well propel the J-20A into the elite group of current fighters that can supercruise well above Mach 1. This would be especially important for the kinds of missions the J-20 is expected to execute, including conferring an ability to get places faster in a dash profile, as well as likely increase its ceiling.

In its 2023 China Military Power report, the Pentagon said it expected that upgrades for the J-20 would include a supercruise capability via WS-15 engines, as well as increased internal missile carriage.

The J-20 — specifically the J-20A — may represent the state of the art in the People’s Liberation Army Air Force (PLAAF), but U.S. officials have otherwise moved to downplay the level of threat it presents.

“It’s not anything to lose a lot of sleep over,” U.S. Air Force Gen. Kenneth Wilsbach, head of Pacific Air Forces, the service’s top command in the Indo-Pacific region, told reporters in September 2022. “Certainly, we’re watching them closely and seeing how they develop and how they operate them.”

The addition of the definitive engines might see assessments of this kind recalibrated somewhat.

At the same time, re-engining the J-20 is not the only program underway to expand the aircraft’s capabilities.

The two-seat J-20B is also now being tested and TWZ has long posited that one of its roles will be as a drone controller. The addition of a back-seater would make the J-20 better suited to this task and would also carve out a unique niche for it among current fifth-generation fighter platforms.

Perhaps just as important, for China, is the fact that the maturation of the WS-15 also reflects major advances in the country’s aero-engine industry. Developing modern high-performance jet engines had long been the Achilles’ heel of China’s aerospace output. Many key types had long relied on Russian-supplied engines, but this is now a thing of the past. All key frontline combat types are now powered by engines of domestic design and production.

Whether a deliberate move on the part of the Chinese or not, the WS-15-powered J-20A is very much out in the open. We should now expect to see the aircraft more regularly, especially as it continues to populate PLAAF units as part of the air arm’s impressive modernization drive.
 

China’s J-20A Prototype Captured in First Clear Image with WS-15 Engine​

September 11, 2024

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Picture of the J-20A prototype flying from the base with the WS-15 turbofan engine, distinguished by the serrated nozzles. (Image credit: Chinese internet via Andreas Rupprecht)

The J-20 initially flew with the Russian Saturn AL-31 turbofan engine, which was later replaced by the domestically developed WS-10C while waiting for the final WS-15 engine specifically developed for the type.

China’s J-20A stealth fighter prototype has been captured in the first clear image with the domestically developed WS-15 engine, leading Chinese military aviation researcher Andreas Rupprecht said in a post on X. Rupprecht also shared a close-up image of the J-20A’s (serial number 2052) serrated exhaust nozzles, which are distinctly different, proving the presence of the WS-15.

The J-20A, with the characteristic factory yellow primer paint scheme, is operating from an unknown airfield, which could possibly be the CAC (Chengdu Aircraft Corporation’s) testing facility. The J-20A has a slightly different nose section, cockpit canopy and spine, the latter usually for housing additional fuel or avionics – or both.

The J-20 initially flew with the Russian Saturn AL-31 turbofan engine, which was later replaced by the domestically developed WS-10C in 2019. The WS-15 is expected to provide a higher thrust of 18,143 kg (40,000 pounds) and a ‘supercruise’ capability, which allows the plane to fly supersonic without having to engage the afterburners.

Beside improving its kinematic performance, as analysts had initially observed how the J-20 doesn’t seem to be able to make the tight turns and aerobatics like the F-22, the new engine would also offer more electrical power for advanced avionics and sensors and newer generation of radars. CAC and the PLA Air Force can be expected to adapt these into newer batches of the J-20, especially as it moves towards inducting wingmen drones for MUM-T (Manned-Unmanned Teaming).

J-20 and WS-15

Reports claiming the J-20 flying with the WS-15 go as far back as Mar. 2022. The SCMP (South China Morning Post) at the time quoted a feature by CCTV, saying that the WS-15 “was put through a series of tests.” Whether China would progressively retrofit all or some of its J-20s with the WS-15s, or only fly future production models with the powerplant is not known.


But given the heightened tensions in the western Pacific, re-engining a major portion of the fleet would be a tall order and the PLAAF cannot afford such a downtime for its leading stealth fighter. It can be safely assumed that J-20s flying with the WS-10C are considerably capable and perform a wide variety of mission sets.

In 2022, General Kenneth Wilsbach, then head of the Pacific Air Forces, said at a Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies conference that U.S. F-35s had encountered J-20s over the ECS (East China Sea) and that they are “relatively impressed with the command and control associated with the J-20.”

Another J-20A (serial number 2051) had appeared in Dec. 2022, The War Zone reported, concluding that this variant was expected to receive the WS-15. The Diplomat then reported that 2052 flew on Jun. 29, 2023, in its “first” flight from the CAC (Chengdu Aircraft Corporation) base, “newly powered by the WS-15 turbofan engines.”

This was after years of extensive development, ground and flight tests on flying test beds. Chinese newspaper Global Times quoted the editor of Beijing-based Aerospace Knowledge magazine at the time, who said “more powerful engines with vector thrust control and variable cycle engines are also likely under development.”

However, there was still some doubt from these images whether the engines were the WS-15, as the pictures were grainy and the exhaust nozzles could not be seen clearly. The latest images suggest that the engine is in the final stages of being tested with the J-20A variant it is meant to fly with, before both enter series production and join the PLAAF’s various Air Groups.

Conclusion

Jet engines are a highly niche, protected technology, and only the U.S., U.K., France and Russia have fully mastered the complete range of civilian and military power plants that make them leading aerospace powers. They are an intricate amalgamation of electrical, electronic, mechanical, chemical and metallurgical sciences with hundreds of complex parts, made with high-precision tools and robust industrial processes.

China had long invested billions in aero engine research with state research institutes and academia since the 1970s. Development of the WS-15 started in the 1990s. How it compares to the Izdeliye 30 that powers the new batch of Su-57s, the F-22 Raptor’s Pratt & Whitney F119 or the F-35’s PW F135 remains to be seen. While it might not be the best, it can be said that it is the best that works for the PLAAF and its needs.


Combined with the fact that the J-20 has now reached mass production, where CAC now able to churn out 100 aircraft annually from just 30 units, with the PLAAF estimated to have 800 aircraft by 2030, massively outsizes the U.S’s F-22 and F-35 fleet. The key for the U.S. is now to quickly roll out the F-35s with the TR-3 (Technology Refresh-3) and Block 4 upgraded aircraft to stay ahead of the curve.

Having relatively less advanced but a large and constantly evolving fleet of fifth generation jets puts the mass in stealth fighters. It affords consistency and stability in air campaigns, leaving adjustments to be made only at the tactical level. Flying with an own supercruise capable jet engine is even better.

 
Every month China is making a new improvements
This is quite rapid development

It's not like American adding a tiny improvement of a hanger to hold 1 extra missile

This is actually making a new plane , next generation unit

Supre cruise activation is quite a engineering feat
 
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4000 pounds over the existing benchmark of the WS-10C at 156 kn would mean +18 kn?

Is it a fair estimate to say the WS-15 has an max thrust of approx. 174 kn?
 
Every month China is making a new improvements
This is quite rapid development

It's not like American adding a tiny improvement of a hanger to hold 1 extra missile

This is actually making a new plane , next generation unit

Supre cruise activation is quite a engineering feat
The US launched F-22 project in the early 1980s. A number of prototypes were flight tested in the early 1990s and the FIRST production model was rolled out in 1997. The F-22A architecture, technology, and stealth was way ahead of its time by all accounts. However, then-Secretary of Defense Robert Gates canceled mass production of F-22A because he argued that it was overkill and no country was even remotely close to fielding something like it. He might be on the mark but it was a bad decision to cancel something so good and revolutionary that could not be easily replaced.

China launched J-20 project in the early 2000s. The FIRST prototype was flight tested in 2011 and the FIRST production model was rolled out in 2017. However, the FIRST production model did not meet original performance goals and it is now in 2024 that the J-20A will meet them with installation of WS-15 engine(s) among other checks. But Chinese did not complain about the jet fighter lacking in performance in 2017, delays in development of better components, and cost overruns like Americans. Chinese continued to insist that the J-20A was lethal to create a deterrence effect. WE do not know how good WS-15 is but Chinese seem to understand that an advanced machine takes time to develop and work as per the expectations.

Chinese seem to be patient and sensible but Americans make too much noise and damage the reputation of their own product in the process.

Nevertheless, I shall point out that the F-35 is already very advanced in its current form but the US will take it to the next level in cutting edge with Block 4 update.


The US is also using F-22A to test NGAD technology - these variants might be the most advanced jet fighters in the world besides NGAD black articles being tested.



The US might even consider restarting production of F-22A with NGAD technology if other solutions are ruled out because the aircraft has a time-tested design and architecture that allows implementation of new technology. This is speculation at this stage but the Americans are known to create multiple narratives to keep others guessing. So anything is possible.
 

The clearest images to date have been captured of a Chinese Air Force J-20A fighter jet equipped with the new WS-15 engines​

Por Redacción
-12 September, 2024

Historically, the local development of aviation engines by China’s aerospace industry has been considered its Achilles’ heel. This has been evident over the decades, during which the primary power plants for the People’s Liberation Army Air Force (PLAAF) combat aircraft were either licensed-built versions or derivatives of Soviet/Russian designs.

However, the rise of China, both economically, industrially, and militarily, has allowed the country to gradually develop its own engines, which now equip its main fourth- and fifth-generation fighter jets. The most recent example occurred in the last few days, when the clearest and sharpest photograph to date of a J-20A fighter jet equipped with the new WS-15 engine went viral.


Although many details and specifications of the Xian WS-15 turbofan engine remain unknown, its development dates back to the 1990s and is closely tied to the creation of the J-20 fifth-generation fighter jet for the PLAAF. The aforementioned Achilles’ heel of China’s aerospace industry initially led to the J-20 being powered by the Russian Saturn AL-31 engine.

Later, with the start of serial production of the Mighty Dragon, the aircraft began to be fitted with locally developed WS-10 engines, originally used in the Chengdu J-10 fourth-generation fighters. However, China’s goal was to equip its top air superiority fighter with an engine matching the capabilities of a stealth aircraft, with performance equal to or better than that of the U.S. F-22 Raptor.

These decades-long efforts culminated in the new Xian WS-15 engine, which will power the latest batches of the J-20, coming off the production line of the Chengdu company. Recent reports have indicated the start of production for these new turbofan engines, alongside several flight tests with fifth-generation aircraft.

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Following these developments, a photo began circulating on social media in recent days, drawing the attention of Open Source Intelligence (OSINT) experts and analysts. The image clearly shows, more than ever before, a J-20A (serial number 2052) equipped with the new WS-15 engines. Unfortunately, more details about the location of this latest test flight have not been revealed, though it is presumed to have taken place at Chengdu’s facilities in the city of the same name.

As for the J-20 featured in the photograph, it is the new “A” variant, which incorporates design improvements over previous versions. Notable among these are a redesigned radome, a cockpit positioned slightly higher, and larger spaces in the fuselage, likely to accommodate new and better avionics as well as increased fuel capacity.

Regarding the new WS-15 engine, it requires redesigned air intakes to optimize airflow. In terms of power, data from prototypes suggests the new turbofan engine generates 36,000 pounds of thrust with afterburners, aiming for 40,000 pounds. By comparison, the previous WS-10 engines produce between 32,000 and 35,000 pounds of thrust with afterburners. Another interesting detail is that while the WS-10 has been seen with thrust vectoring nozzles, this feature has not yet been observed on the WS-15.

An important point to consider is that, if the mentioned data is correct, the J-20A with the new WS-15 engines would have more thrust than the U.S. F-22 Raptor, whose two Pratt & Whitney F119 engines generate 35,000 pounds of thrust each.

Regardless, this development marks another significant milestone in China’s decades-long effort to invest in engine development and production. As a final note, new photos recently revealed another J-20A (serial number 2053) also seen flying, apparently equipped with WS-15 engines.


 

The clearest images to date have been captured of a Chinese Air Force J-20A fighter jet equipped with the new WS-15 engines​

Por Redacción
-12 September, 2024

Historically, the local development of aviation engines by China’s aerospace industry has been considered its Achilles’ heel. This has been evident over the decades, during which the primary power plants for the People’s Liberation Army Air Force (PLAAF) combat aircraft were either licensed-built versions or derivatives of Soviet/Russian designs.

However, the rise of China, both economically, industrially, and militarily, has allowed the country to gradually develop its own engines, which now equip its main fourth- and fifth-generation fighter jets. The most recent example occurred in the last few days, when the clearest and sharpest photograph to date of a J-20A fighter jet equipped with the new WS-15 engine went viral.


Although many details and specifications of the Xian WS-15 turbofan engine remain unknown, its development dates back to the 1990s and is closely tied to the creation of the J-20 fifth-generation fighter jet for the PLAAF. The aforementioned Achilles’ heel of China’s aerospace industry initially led to the J-20 being powered by the Russian Saturn AL-31 engine.

Later, with the start of serial production of the Mighty Dragon, the aircraft began to be fitted with locally developed WS-10 engines, originally used in the Chengdu J-10 fourth-generation fighters. However, China’s goal was to equip its top air superiority fighter with an engine matching the capabilities of a stealth aircraft, with performance equal to or better than that of the U.S. F-22 Raptor.

These decades-long efforts culminated in the new Xian WS-15 engine, which will power the latest batches of the J-20, coming off the production line of the Chengdu company. Recent reports have indicated the start of production for these new turbofan engines, alongside several flight tests with fifth-generation aircraft.

J-20-1024x614.jpg.webp

Following these developments, a photo began circulating on social media in recent days, drawing the attention of Open Source Intelligence (OSINT) experts and analysts. The image clearly shows, more than ever before, a J-20A (serial number 2052) equipped with the new WS-15 engines. Unfortunately, more details about the location of this latest test flight have not been revealed, though it is presumed to have taken place at Chengdu’s facilities in the city of the same name.

As for the J-20 featured in the photograph, it is the new “A” variant, which incorporates design improvements over previous versions. Notable among these are a redesigned radome, a cockpit positioned slightly higher, and larger spaces in the fuselage, likely to accommodate new and better avionics as well as increased fuel capacity.

Regarding the new WS-15 engine, it requires redesigned air intakes to optimize airflow. In terms of power, data from prototypes suggests the new turbofan engine generates 36,000 pounds of thrust with afterburners, aiming for 40,000 pounds. By comparison, the previous WS-10 engines produce between 32,000 and 35,000 pounds of thrust with afterburners. Another interesting detail is that while the WS-10 has been seen with thrust vectoring nozzles, this feature has not yet been observed on the WS-15.

An important point to consider is that, if the mentioned data is correct, the J-20A with the new WS-15 engines would have more thrust than the U.S. F-22 Raptor, whose two Pratt & Whitney F119 engines generate 35,000 pounds of thrust each.

Regardless, this development marks another significant milestone in China’s decades-long effort to invest in engine development and production. As a final note, new photos recently revealed another J-20A (serial number 2053) also seen flying, apparently equipped with WS-15 engines.


So currently at 36,000 lbs / 162 kn?

I ask because this tech extrapolated on to the WS-19 development will mean at least 100 kn, but at 40,000 lb on the final WS-15, would mean the WS-19 would have a thrust of at least around 111 kn.

The same thrust as the F-14s engines, allowing the J-35 a naval fighter to have the kind of thrust to be an air superiority fighter, but due to smaller size allowing more to be carried on the carriers, and allowing the J-15 to be less necessary.

A lot is riding on the development of the WS-15.

In terms of power, data from prototypes suggests the new turbofan engine generates 36,000 pounds of thrust with afterburners, aiming for 40,000 pounds.
 
So currently at 36,000 lbs / 162 kn?

I ask because this tech extrapolated on to the WS-19 development will mean at least 100 kn, but at 40,000 lb on the final WS-15, would mean the WS-19 would have a thrust of at least around 111 kn.

The same thrust as the F-14s engines, allowing the J-35 a naval fighter to have the kind of thrust to be an air superiority fighter, but due to smaller size allowing more to be carried on the carriers, and allowing the J-15 to be less necessary.

A lot is riding on the development of the WS-15.

Huge benefits also for PAF. Imagine such powerful engines on Pakistani aircraft.
 
The WS-10C can be thought of as a 4.5 generation engine and so the WS-15 is not a whole generation ahead.

Those J-20 pilots that fly the WS-10C powered J-20 already have experience of supercruise, probably around Mach 1.4-1.5, and so the WS-15 will not necessitate learning totally new aerodynamic flying skills.
 
Huge benefits also for PAF. Imagine such powerful engines on Pakistani aircraft.
That’s it. The WS-19 once fully mature, downstream of the tech developed for the WS-15, will be pivotal for the J-31/35 and the PF-X, making up the bulk of the future PAF fleet.

The can tech from the WS-15 can work its way into the WS-10, intended for the J-10 and J-16, to make variants with longer lifespans, lower fuel consumption, but same thrust (or maybe slightly more). This proposed variant may perhaps even be the engine Pakistan may want on the KAAN fighter, if the Turkish engine development stalls or fails to meet performance levels in time for induction.

The tech will also work its way into the WS-20 to power planes like the Y-20 and C-919, with their related military applications.

Hopefully in the future Pakistan will get to make the WS-19 under license.

So in a way, the entire future of not only the PLAAF. It also the PAF achieving next level air power depends on this engine. No pressure Chinese engineers, but Pakistanis in the know are rooting for you.

But at the current 162 kn (36,000 lb) thrust, the engine isn’t there yet. 40,000 lb is turkey a benchmark that needs to he achieved.
 

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