PA Options against Indian Armour - ATGMs on MANPADS & Attack Gunship Helicopter - News & Discussions

[Armen]

Par 5, Be Dazzled
how come this is not on most ah-1F choppers?
i recall the manual lists them as standard.

Countermeasure Dispensing System (CMDS).

are you sure?
others appear to think its a LWS
i dont seem to see any dispensers on it either

 

[user]

Par 5, Be Dazzled
how come this is not on most ah-1F choppers?
i recall the manual lists them as standard.

are you sure?
others appear to think its a LWS
i dont seem to see any dispensers on it either

Yes Sir. This is a dispenser assembly or housing with no payload module attached.

 

[falcon34]

@Panzerkiel
HJ-10 Has been inducted or got shelved cause of FPVS?
Were we interseted in 10km one or the 25km one.

 

[KingQamaR]

It's incredible that ground armour and infantry movements in Ukraine and Russia war have pretty much been rendered obsolete by drones. It’s cheap and economically deadly stuff. In the open deserts theres no where to hide your tanks infantry etc from them.

 

[Armen]

Yes Sir. This is a dispenser assembly or housing with no payload module attached.

ok it seems it rlly is a LWS, specifically the an/avr-2.

 

[falcon34]

@Panzerkiel
HJ-10 Has been inducted or got shelved cause of FPVS?
Were we interseted in 10km one or the 25km one.

Does the sad emojis mean we didn't inducted or we got the 10km one?.

 

[Par 5]

PA is training heavily on armed FPV's & Swarming Techniques to defeat Indian armor.

RPG and ATGM's are literally becoming battle obsolete

 

[Defence Alpha]

PA is training heavily on armed FPV's & Swarming Techniques to defeat Indian armor.

RPG and ATGM's are literally becoming battle obsolete

"....RPG and ATGM's are literally becoming battle obselete..."

Very strong & sweeping statement, don't you think?, thx

 

[Panzerkiel]

Does the sad emojis mean we didn't inducted or we got the 10km one?.

Means its not inducted yet!

 

[RescueRanger]

"....RPG and ATGM's are literally becoming battle obselete..."

Very strong & sweeping statement, don't you think?, thx

It's okay he is commander in chief call of duty.

 

[Par 5]

"....RPG and ATGM's are literally becoming battle obselete..."

Very strong & sweeping statement, don't you think?, thx

They will only be used for soft targets (bunkers/ guard stands etc) and or FPV missed armor that slips into close proximity.

 

[falcon34]

They will only be used for soft targets (bunkers/ guard stands etc) and or FPV missed armor that slips into close proximity.

You think tanks will be charging head like battle of chawinda, tanks will be operating at least 2-30 kms in like command node, coordinating unmanned ground vehicles and artillery fires, you saw that tethered drone with tanks, that's only gonna get more advanced, tanks will be able to see far and wide and that's why you need those long range ATGMS.

 

[RescueRanger]

You think tanks will be charging head like battle of chawinda, tanks will be operating at least 2-30 kms in like command node, coordinating unmanned ground vehicles and artillery fires, you saw that tethered drone with tanks, that's only gonna get more advanced, tanks will be able to see far and wide and that's why you need those long range ATGMS.

People make the mistake of studying far away wars (Ukraine) and the Cold war tank warfare doctrine of the Dumbo's in Russia where they send column after column into hostile terrain without forward observers or any mine clearance or C-UAS only for them to get turned into scrap metal.

The Russian war fighting doctrine is send in 10 soldiers and a tank, they get take out send into 10 more, then send in 3 more, they can afford to play this stupid game because they have a conscript army and a butt load of resources, serious militaries don't fight like this, it's not WWII.

This is also the same problem in thought who study the most recent conflict in our region and think that drones and ballistic missiles are the be all and end all, no need for ADS no need for EW, just cigars and flying lawnmowers.

Let's get real please.

 

[Toxic]

You think tanks will be charging head like battle of chawinda, tanks will be operating at least 2-30 kms in like command node, coordinating unmanned ground vehicles and artillery fires, you saw that tethered drone with tanks, that's only gonna get more advanced, tanks will be able to see far and wide and that's why you need those long range ATGMS.

Yes they will, Both Pakistani and Indian tank doctrine are still stuck in the past, you will see very heavy tank losses early on, remember each branch and sub branch moves at different pace to each other.

 

[RescueRanger]

Yes they will, Both Pakistani and Indian tank doctrine are still stuck in the past, you will see very heavy tank losses early on, remember each branch and sub branch moves at different pace to each other.

Incorrect.