PAF Conducts successful test of indigenously developed FAAZ BVRAAM

[Pogic]

The concerning thing is that we are not getting any news about expansion of production sites. We are making multiple role indigenous weaponary but from the production end, there's net silence like nothing is happening.
Yes there're NASTAP & NRDI like institutions but I don't think these institutions are anything more than simple government funded ghup chup offices.

Production sites are likely kept very secretive as they are fixed locations and hence are extremely vulnerable. Keeping them secret means thats the enemy also has to guess on the scale of production.

 

[Cygnus]

BVR are generally not Thrust vectoring . By the time they reach the target, the motors are burnt out already and there is no thrust to be vectored.

Dual pulse can be reignited near the target

 

[Toxic]

The concerning thing is that we are not getting any news about expansion of production sites. We are making multiple role indigenous weaponary but from the production end, there's net silence like nothing is happening.
Yes there're NASTAP & NRDI like institutions but I don't think these institutions are anything more than simple government funded ghup chup offices.

Production sites are being expanded but they wouldn't reveal this info publicly

 

[battalion25]

Production sites are being expanded but they wouldn't reveal this info publicly

I haven´t seen you in a minute.. Hope you doing good and that your political view has changed

 

[MS Sandhu]

Production sites are being expanded but they wouldn't reveal this info publicly

Not an intelligent statement.

Production expansion needs more weapons grade machinery, that we all know Pakistan can't produce itself so any reports of machinery import, sat images of production sites, import of weapons grade parts like guidance, fuel etc for missiles - there are so many things associated with this industry that can't keep this shit hidden from anybody.
There was a news of expanded ammunition production and Turkish company was supplying machinery for site expansion so you can't keep anything secret, this is not a shop on some road side instead a hell of industrial work.

 

[TAC]

Not an intelligent statement.

Production expansion needs more weapons grade machinery, that we all know Pakistan can't produce itself so any reports of machinery import, sat images of production sites, import of weapons grade parts like guidance, fuel etc for missiles - there are so many things associated with this industry that can't keep this shit hidden from anybody.
There was a news of expanded ammunition production and Turkish company was supplying machinery for site expansion so you can't keep anything secret, this is not a shop on some road side instead a hell of industrial work.

Really?? You expect all this to be reported to you or what your concern is that they are developing tech but not actually producing anything??!

 

[HRK]

How dare you suggest this

???

 

[MS Sandhu]

Really?? You expect all this to be reported to you or what your concern is that they are developing tech but not actually producing anything??!

You can be developing the tech but still not producing that tech at the same time.Just like we were reading about tech stuff from Iran everyday and when war started, it was known that they not actually mass produced that tech.
If there's any activity about industrial expansion - you can always find the related activities in open source bc these things can't be kept secret.
The absence of this activity shows that there's still little to no work done to expand the munition production.

 

[Pakistan First]

You can be developing the tech but still not producing that tech at the same time.Just like we were reading about tech stuff from Iran everyday and when war started, it was known that they not actually mass produced that tech.
If there's any activity about industrial expansion - you can always find the related activities in open source bc these things can't be kept secret.
The absence of this activity shows that there's still little to no work done to expand the munition production.

We will never hear about production facilities expansion especially for the missiles. ISPR won't utter a word on it. Local media can't probe that. The import of specific machinery won't be listed in public records at all etc.

While its true, this cannot be kept completely secret but point is it can be revealed only if someone is actively probing, purchasing latest satellite imagery etc. I think open source accounts aren't really interested or committed to invest money & time on it. Whenever publicly revealed satellite imagery updates, some open source accounts might pick up. BTW, some expansions keep happening and we can even monitor using public maps but nobody really knows what's inside those new facilities.

So we cannot say that production capacity isn't increasing just because open source isn't reporting anything.

 

[puttputt]

Not an intelligent statement.

Production expansion needs more weapons grade machinery, that we all know Pakistan can't produce itself so any reports of machinery import, sat images of production sites, import of weapons grade parts like guidance, fuel etc for missiles - there are so many things associated with this industry that can't keep this shit hidden from anybody.
There was a news of expanded ammunition production and Turkish company was supplying machinery for site expansion so you can't keep anything secret, this is not a shop on some road side instead a hell of industrial work.

tbh over half of the machinery and equipment Pakistan needs is on US export control lists. In all likelihood, if Pakistan is expanding production, it's doing so by smuggling the equipment. In such cases, we won't hear much or anything about it until the US decides to sanction a bunch of Belarusian firms.

 

[studsmart]

I wonder if they'd consider giving the Fa'az thrust vectoring controls. This would allow it to basically triple-role as a BVRAAM, HOBS AAM, and a VLS-ready SHORADS.

I was thinking the same, and I also believe Faaz2 IIR will be the definitive version to be inducted.

 

[retaxis]

Congrats a big country like pakistan should follow turkeys footprint and provide weapons to Islamic countries instead of having them all buy western weapons which come with conditions and overpriced

 

[Bilal]

tbh over half of the machinery and equipment Pakistan needs is on US export control lists. In all likelihood, if Pakistan is expanding production, it's doing so by smuggling the equipment. In such cases, we won't hear much or anything about it until the US decides to sanction a bunch of Belarusian firms.

What is there that we need that can’t be sourced from China and/or Turkey? It’s not 90s or 2000s anymore.