PAF Future Acquisition Plans

[Zarvan]

J-16 has been talked to death. Its not happening. Never will. China cant sell flankers without russian permission which they never got in the first place to make J-11/J-15/J-16.

1. L-15 arent rumors but part of the ongoing search for a next gen trainer. Whether there is any fire to this particular smoke remains to be seen.

2. J-31/35: would seem like there is more flame in this rumor, given there have been mentions at senior PAF levels.

3. KAAN is a mystery. Could be PFX but could also be acquired off the shelf. Also could be nothing other than a fanboy wet dream. At this point id imagine PAF would likely follow the PNs route of buying off the shelf solutions for immediate need (J-31/35 is to FGFA need what Tughrail is to PNs need for immediate major surface combatants) while trying to work with Turkey for a JV on a longer term solution (KAAN is to FGFA what Baburs/JCF are to PNs long term surface combatant need). But as usual to respond to whether it will actually happen: "the answer is money, what's the question?"

4. Global 6000. I think this is not meant to be an AWAC, but a standoff EW specialist/Jammer in the vein of Havasoj (rather, exactly HAVASOJ). MY understanding is its a done deal and the aircraft was already acquired but i may be mistaken.

5. Some J-10. See "money/question" comment. If the funds are available PAF will definitely get more (they need to replace another 90-150 or so aircraft as soon as possible - F-7pg and ROSE mirages). The key is funding.

J 31 is a rumor? Are you alright? Dude that is Air Chief statement. Also told by PAF in every video and press release. For love of GOD. KAAN again confirmed by PAF when recently Air Chief visited Turkey. PFX could be something like Grippen E type jet. Global 6000 is EW

 

[Tank131]

J 31 is a rumor? Are you alright? Dude that is Air Chief statement. Also told by PAF in every video and press release. For love of GOD. KAAN again confirmed by PAF when recently Air Chief visited Turkey. PFX could be something like Grippen E type jet. Global 6000 is EW

I am using it in response to his statements about each point. "More flame" means its not just smoke. There is some real substance to the "rumors".

 

[FOOLS_NIGHTMARE]

KAAN successfully completed its full-power afterburner engine test.

 

[Fatman17]

KAAN successfully completed its full-power afterburner engine test.
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Does KAAN have western systems

 

[MastanKhan]

Does KAAN have western systems

Hi,

None I believe---.

An australian source says that the first aircraft available to Turkiye air force will be between 2030---2033.

 

[Fatman17]

Hi,

None I believe---.

An australian source says that the first aircraft available to Turkiye air force will be between 2030---2033.

A long way to go. So J-35A/31 arrives earlier perhaps

 

[MastanKhan]

A long way to go. So J-35A/31 arrives earlier perhaps

Hi,

If you look at the inception of the F35---compared to that---the induction of the KAAN will be in around 1/2 the time---.

 

[Dil Pakistan]

Can someone kindly explain What next generation here means?
If its Fifth Generation then it means the PFX isn't the JF-17 Block 4 as was being propagated recently. In this scenario does this mean that this is the Project Azm fighter? (which also means that it hasn't been merged into KAAN)

Everyone born after 31st December 2024

 

[The SC]

Pakistan will receive the Chinese Shenyang J-35 fifth generation fighter within 24 months​

According to Pakistan's 24 News HD, this acquisition is part of the PAF's efforts to enhance its capabilities and widen the gap between its air force and that of India.

December 5, 2024: Pakistan has reportedly agreed to purchase the Chinese-made fifth-generation fighter jet, the Shenyang J-35, and it is expected to be delivered within 24 months.

According to Pakistani media outlet 24 News HD, this acquisition is part of the PAF's efforts to enhance its capabilities and widen the gap between its air force and that of India.

The Shenyang J-35 is expected to outperform advanced Indian fighters, such as the Rafale and Sukhoi Su-30 MKI.

This superiority is expected to remain until India acquires fifth generation fighter jets.

Earlier this year, the Pakistan Air Force signaled its intention to acquire the Shenyang J-35/FC-31 “Gyrfalcon,” developed by the Shenyang Aircraft Corporation of China.

PAF Chief of Staff, Air Marshal Zaheer Ahmad Babar Sidhu, said the Shenyang J-35/FC-31 would enter service “soon.”

Negotiations for the purchase of the Shenyang J-35/FC-31 aircraft have reportedly been completed, with PAF pilots already receiving training in China to operate the aircraft.

The acquisition of the Shenyang J-35 has raised concerns in neighboring India, which still relies on 4.5 generation fighters such as the Sukhoi Su-30MKI and Rafale.

The move underscores Pakistan's commitment to developing its air capabilities while highlighting China's growing role as a defense supplier.

At the recent China Airshow 2024 in Zhuhai, China revealed official images of its second fifth-generation stealth fighter, the Shenyang J-35A.

Designed for air combat and air-to-ground operations, the Shenyang J-35A reflects China's ambition to compete with the United States in stealth fighter development.

With its acquisition of the Shenyang J-35A, China joins the United States as the only two countries to have produced fifth-generation fighters, the Shenyang J-35A and the J-20 “Mighty Dragon,” similar to the American F-35 and F-22 “Raptor.” “.

The inclusion of the Shenyang J-35 into the PAF inventory will complement previous acquisitions of Chinese aircraft, including the J-10C and the jointly developed JF-17.

Analysts said the Shenyang J-35 would replace Pakistan's aging F-16s and Mirage 5s, signaling a shift toward a more modern and diversified air force.

 

[Fatman17]

Pakistan will receive the Chinese Shenyang J-35 fifth generation fighter within 24 months​

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According to Pakistan's 24 News HD, this acquisition is part of the PAF's efforts to enhance its capabilities and widen the gap between its air force and that of India.

December 5, 2024: Pakistan has reportedly agreed to purchase the Chinese-made fifth-generation fighter jet, the Shenyang J-35, and it is expected to be delivered within 24 months.

According to Pakistani media outlet 24 News HD, this acquisition is part of the PAF's efforts to enhance its capabilities and widen the gap between its air force and that of India.

The Shenyang J-35 is expected to outperform advanced Indian fighters, such as the Rafale and Sukhoi Su-30 MKI.

This superiority is expected to remain until India acquires fifth generation fighter jets.

Earlier this year, the Pakistan Air Force signaled its intention to acquire the Shenyang J-35/FC-31 “Gyrfalcon,” developed by the Shenyang Aircraft Corporation of China.

PAF Chief of Staff, Air Marshal Zaheer Ahmad Babar Sidhu, said the Shenyang J-35/FC-31 would enter service “soon.”

Negotiations for the purchase of the Shenyang J-35/FC-31 aircraft have reportedly been completed, with PAF pilots already receiving training in China to operate the aircraft.

The acquisition of the Shenyang J-35 has raised concerns in neighboring India, which still relies on 4.5 generation fighters such as the Sukhoi Su-30MKI and Rafale.

The move underscores Pakistan's commitment to developing its air capabilities while highlighting China's growing role as a defense supplier.

At the recent China Airshow 2024 in Zhuhai, China revealed official images of its second fifth-generation stealth fighter, the Shenyang J-35A.

Designed for air combat and air-to-ground operations, the Shenyang J-35A reflects China's ambition to compete with the United States in stealth fighter development.

With its acquisition of the Shenyang J-35A, China joins the United States as the only two countries to have produced fifth-generation fighters, the Shenyang J-35A and the J-20 “Mighty Dragon,” similar to the American F-35 and F-22 “Raptor.” “.

The inclusion of the Shenyang J-35 into the PAF inventory will complement previous acquisitions of Chinese aircraft, including the J-10C and the jointly developed JF-17.

Analysts said the Shenyang J-35 would replace Pakistan's aging F-16s and Mirage 5s, signaling a shift toward a more modern and diversified air force.

Dubious source

 

[Hussain]

Dubious source

24News HD is owned by Mohsin Naqvi?

 

[MastanKhan]

Pakistan will receive the Chinese Shenyang J-35 fifth generation fighter within 24 months​

View attachment 88111

According to Pakistan's 24 News HD, this acquisition is part of the PAF's efforts to enhance its capabilities and widen the gap between its air force and that of India.

December 5, 2024: Pakistan has reportedly agreed to purchase the Chinese-made fifth-generation fighter jet, the Shenyang J-35, and it is expected to be delivered within 24 months.

According to Pakistani media outlet 24 News HD, this acquisition is part of the PAF's efforts to enhance its capabilities and widen the gap between its air force and that of India.

The Shenyang J-35 is expected to outperform advanced Indian fighters, such as the Rafale and Sukhoi Su-30 MKI.

This superiority is expected to remain until India acquires fifth generation fighter jets.

Earlier this year, the Pakistan Air Force signaled its intention to acquire the Shenyang J-35/FC-31 “Gyrfalcon,” developed by the Shenyang Aircraft Corporation of China.

PAF Chief of Staff, Air Marshal Zaheer Ahmad Babar Sidhu, said the Shenyang J-35/FC-31 would enter service “soon.”

Negotiations for the purchase of the Shenyang J-35/FC-31 aircraft have reportedly been completed, with PAF pilots already receiving training in China to operate the aircraft.

The acquisition of the Shenyang J-35 has raised concerns in neighboring India, which still relies on 4.5 generation fighters such as the Sukhoi Su-30MKI and Rafale.

The move underscores Pakistan's commitment to developing its air capabilities while highlighting China's growing role as a defense supplier.

At the recent China Airshow 2024 in Zhuhai, China revealed official images of its second fifth-generation stealth fighter, the Shenyang J-35A.

Designed for air combat and air-to-ground operations, the Shenyang J-35A reflects China's ambition to compete with the United States in stealth fighter development.

With its acquisition of the Shenyang J-35A, China joins the United States as the only two countries to have produced fifth-generation fighters, the Shenyang J-35A and the J-20 “Mighty Dragon,” similar to the American F-35 and F-22 “Raptor.” “.

The inclusion of the Shenyang J-35 into the PAF inventory will complement previous acquisitions of Chinese aircraft, including the J-10C and the jointly developed JF-17.

Analysts said the Shenyang J-35 would replace Pakistan's aging F-16s and Mirage 5s, signaling a shift toward a more modern and diversified air force.

Hi,

If readers can recall---Sheikh Rashid had made an announcement on the procurement of the J10's---which many did not believe in.

 

[Fatman17]

24News HD is owned by Mohsin Naqvi?

Exactly

 

[SiliconBit (silicon0000)]

Hi,

None I believe---.

An australian source says that the first aircraft available to Turkiye air force will be between 2030---2033.

I have heard the plan is that after first block (when Turkish engine is installed) only Martin-Baker seats will be the imported part. Rest all will be turkish made. Although not sure.

 

[Umar]

Hi,

If readers can recall---Sheikh Rashid had made an announcement on the procurement of the J10's---which many did not believe in.

True, I recall he mentioned the wrong number for the J-10. He seemed hesitant and unsure whether it was called the J-10 or J-11. He acted like a deliberate slip of a tongue by revealing information and then not knowing what he is talking about. However, just a few weeks later, the news was made public by the Air Force, and the deliveries followed within six to 12 months of his claim. He, despite being an idiot, he was the Minister of Information, so it’s likely some details were disclosed to him in private meetings and he leaked it with innocent face.

The J-35 is on a completely different level as it is an advanced fifth-generation aircraft, and any claims about it would require verification from a credible source. The J-10, on the other hand, had been in production for 20 years, so China selling it to Pakistan was surprising but not shocking.