PAF J-10CE News, Updates and Discussion

[Yommie]

Sure, but Pakistan would want to know its Su-35 can beat by the J-10 and how, precisely; what tactics, systems, strategies alongside other assets.

Su-35 is pretty crude compared to J-10C. It lacks AESA for example. However, it could give a few hints about India's Su-30MKI.

 

[FuturePAF]

Su-35 is pretty crude compared to J-10C. It lacks AESA for example. However, it could give a few hints about India's Su-30MKI.

Precisely, for all the India seeks to upgrade the Su-30MKI, much of it would be comparable to what is in the best version of to the Su-35.

 

[Deino]

Su-35 is meant to replace F-14. J-10C is meant to replace F-16.

Iran & J-10C?? You are funny …

Su-35 is pretty crude compared to J-10C. It lacks AESA for example. However, it could give a few hints about India's Su-30MKI.

No, since both are totally different!

 

[guangdongt]

Iran & J-10C?? You are funny …


No, since both are totally different!

More like a replacement for the Phantom, the flight envelope of the j10 and the advantage position of the f16 flight envelope are different. The envelope advantage range of F16 is in high subsonic and transonic speeds，Mid/Low Altitude。The advantage area of J-10is the high-altitude and high-speed performance area in the upper right corner
I guess if Pakistan's F16 cannot be effectively upgraded in the future. So JF17 block3 will be a good alternative to flight tactics

 

[Deino]

More like a replacement for the Phantom, the flight envelope of the j10 and the advantage position of the f16 flight envelope are different. The envelope advantage range of F16 is in high subsonic and transonic speeds，Mid/Low Altitude。The advantage area of J-10is the high-altitude and high-speed performance area in the upper right corner
I guess if Pakistan's F16 cannot be effectively upgraded in the future. So JF17 block3 will be a good alternative to flight tactics

I don’t want to say it is not the J-10 is not a decent replacement but it is an unlikely option

 

[Reichmarshal]

The tail is very similar to Rafale's tail.

F 14 are going no where, infact iran has come up with a very elaborate program to bringing back its mothballed f 14 back to active service.
They will complement the f 35

 

[Reichmarshal]

Sure, but Pakistan would want to know its Su-35 can beat by the J-10 and how, precisely; what tactics, systems, strategies alongside other assets.

Su 35 in the Chinese inventory has performed badly against the j 10 in multiple exercises.
The role of the su 35 is very limited in Chinese AF. J 15/J 16 are far more expressive with better avionics, plus the radar crossection is much lower then a su 35

 

[The SC]

A Pakistani J-10CE aircraft fully loaded with air-to-air missiles and 3 fuel tanks

- Combat Air Patrol (CAP)
- Air Interception

 

[Awwad]

Iran & J-10C??

Just want to know why it can't be possibility in future? I see relationship are enhancing between China & Iran from last few years. Is it possible that Iran may buy Chinese aircrafts like J-10Cs, J-31s etc in future from China ? If not then why, the reason is financial, technical or anything else?

 

[Aamir Hussain]

Not really. It's just politically motivated propaganda based on falsehood. People don't see how much Pakistan has strategically aligned itself with China in all spheres of strategic life, military, economic, diplomatic, science & technology, etc. I would say Pakistan never had such a deep-rooted alliance and overwhelming relationship with any other country in the past (including with the US).

Having said that, however, it doesn't require Pakistan to start animosity towards the US or West. We need to shrug off that old mentality of having only friends or foes without a third choice. Being a strategic ally of China does not really mean that USA is our enemy. We need to have a healthy friendship with all nations based on our shared national interests. I think we still have a lot (and I really mean a lot) of shared national interests that require a friendly relationship with the US.

Agreed but the other side does not. Their way or highway. Until Pakistan gets on it own firm feet, we will have a hard time trying to play both sides if the fence

 

[Qureshi]

Just want to know why it can't be possibility in future? I see relationship are enhancing between China & Iran from last few years. Is it possible that Iran may buy Chinese aircrafts like J-10Cs, J-31s etc in future from China ? If not then why, the reason is financial, technical or anything else?

Its more to a geopolitical, as China is eyeing on big piece of a cake that is possible acquisitions from GCC countries in particular UAE & KSA.

 

[prothought]

Agreed but the other side does not. Their way or highway. Until Pakistan gets on it own firm feet, we will have a hard time trying to play both sides if the fence

That's exactly my point. In this complex global landscape, the simplistic categorization of countries as either friend or foe is outdated and inadequate. Instead, we must acknowledge the nuanced nature of international relations, where nations may find themselves in cooperation on certain issues while simultaneously opposing each other on others. Take, for instance, the dynamic between Turkey and Russia, where they may engage in conflicting interests in one region while maintaining substantial economic partnerships in another. Similarly, the relationship between China and the USA is characterized by a blend of competition and collaboration across various domains, ranging from trade to security. These examples illustrate the need for a more sophisticated approach to navigating international affairs, one that recognizes the intricacies and interdependencies inherent in the modern world. By embracing a multi-faceted perspective and understanding the complexities of global interactions, we can better adapt to the challenges and opportunities presented by an increasingly interconnected world.

 

[FOOLS_NIGHTMARE]

 

[FOOLS_NIGHTMARE]

The Pakistan Air Force's J10C aircraft forms a striking lineup, adorned with tactical camouflage.

 

[Windjammer]