PAF J-10CE News, Updates and Discussion

[rafale]

It’s the same stuff from AFM - this gentleman needs to stop relying on “British” or “Somalian” sources because the Indians are just that with “Bulgaria” or “Australia”.

Air Forces Monthly is reputable - as if Combat Aircraft. Both are from Key Publishing which caters to multiple audiences.

The source is Alan Warnes - his writing style is now more biased towards Pakistan but the overall issue tried to balance out claims later.

Biased it might be......but why would Alan Warnes lie regarding the number of jets India lost? That would never happen no matter how close he is to PAF

 

[Yasser76]

It’s the same stuff from AFM - this gentleman needs to stop relying on “British” or “Somalian” sources because the Indians are just that with “Bulgaria” or “Australia”.

Air Forces Monthly is reputable - as if Combat Aircraft. Both are from Key Publishing which caters to multiple audiences.

The source is Alan Warnes - his writing style is now more biased towards Pakistan but the overall issue tried to balance out claims later.

Would not say Warnes is biased, he has reported from India and stated he would like to do so again, IAF said he can only do so if he does not work with PAF, Warnes told them where to stick it and carried on working with PAF. India shooting themselves in the foot PR wise is no fault of Warnes. also before the PAF May war article he let some Indian put a 4 page article on IAF on the IAF's perspective. He is managing editor. So struggle to see how you can call him out in bias

 

[Eshay101]

Whats the SOW package for our J-10C's??

 

[Ali_Baba]

Whats the SOW package for our J-10C's??

There is none that has been seen so far in PAF service. Given the small size of the fleet currently, they are being tasked to take care of the Rafale threat it seems.

 

[Toxic]

There is none that has been seen so far in PAF service. Given the small size of the fleet currently, they are being tasked to take care of the Rafale threat it seems.

We already have a existing inventory of Chinese ALCMs and Glide bombs that the J-10C can use if need be.

 

[Deino]

We already have a existing inventory of Chinese ALCMs and Glide bombs that the J-10C can use if need be.

Well, which Chinese ALCM does the J-10C use? IMO none ...

 

[Toxic]

Well, which Chinese ALCM does the J-10C use? IMO none ...

Thought it could carry the Carry The CM-400AkG I guess I am misremembering

 

[kimjongun]

Thought it could carry the Carry The CM-400AkG I guess I am misremembering

The cm400 akg is more of a ALBM then a cruise missile...what ever it maybe..PAF has a very poor SOW package on 90 percent of its aircrafts...very few systems and some being small ranged like the h4....I have always envied IAF in the SOW departments

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

Air Marshal (retd) Shahid Lateef who was one of Chief Project Directors on JF-17 Thunders said in one of his interviews, that they had pointed out to the Chinese more than 40 flaws in the J-10s.

 

[SD 10]

Air Marshal (retd) Shahid Lateef who was one of Chief Project Directors on JF-17 Thunders said in one of his interviews, that they had pointed out to the Chinese more than 40 flaws in the J-10s.

Do we need to keep on repeating this?

 

[rafale]

There is none that has been seen so far in PAF service. Given the small size of the fleet currently, they are being tasked to take care of the Rafale threat it seems.

Either there is really none or PAF already has one and its being kept silent for opsec reasons......same as when RAAD was mated and tested with JF-17.

For SOWs PAF has a nice range to pick from Chinese options......the key enabler for J-10 was PL15 extended range......and we got those via air lift when needed, right?

 

[东风夜放花千树]

Air Marshal (retd) Shahid Lateef who was one of Chief Project Directors on JF-17 Thunders said in one of his interviews, that they had pointed out to the Chinese more than 40 flaws in the J-10s.

Whether it is about fighter jets or the tactics of the air forces of China and Pakistan, Pakistan has indeed provided a lot of advice to Chinese military companies and the military.

So, as I speculated earlier, after the Pakistani military used the J-10C to achieve victory in the May War, they gave modification suggestions to Chinese military companies, making the revised J-10C better suited to the requirements of the Pakistani military. This is one of the reasons why we have not been able to find follow-up orders for the J-10C.

 

[Blain2]

Air Marshal (retd) Shahid Lateef who was one of Chief Project Directors on JF-17 Thunders said in one of his interviews, that they had pointed out to the Chinese more than 40 flaws in the J-10s.

Not flaws, but enhancements for the PAF. The same exercise that we did with the F-7PGs prior to induction.

 

[aurelianpilled]

Well, which Chinese ALCM does the J-10C use? IMO none ...

What about YJ-91/YJ-91A (not in doctrinal terms, but let's just add it), YJ-83K, and KD-88? If I am not wrong, they do differ in their primary roles (anti-radiation/SEADs/anti-ship/land-attack), but I guess all of them indeed are dedicated air-launched cruise missiles integrated with J-10Cs? Although, I haven't seen the exact KD-88/AKD-88 version on a J-10C, but rather a smaller, compact (?) version.

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

Do we need to keep on repeating this?

The brother was looking for information.